Removal of /c bribe + Allowing police to use /c uncrime

[stormeus]

Because of its incredibly-easy-to-access nature, /c bribe has led to some implausible, frustrating, and (in a select few cases) uncreative escapes from police. As a VCPD Officer and FBI Agent, my views would be slightly skewed to favor the police, but allow me to present a solution that I believe is fair to replace /c bribe.

I can't understand how an officer who doesn't even have the ability to uncrime a player or perform an investigation would be able to somehow completely erase someone's criminal record, no matter how high it may be, so the first part of the idea is to allow some police personnel to uncrime a player. The scripts already make provisions for the VCPD Chief and Deputy Chief to uncrime people, though coincidentally, both of them are admins anyway. I thought of expanding it to:

• FBI Command Staff (Station Commander+)
• VCPD Senior Staff (Sergeant+)

Which could be used in two ways: uncriming players after completing an investigation, or uncriming players after taking a bribe, but I know what you're thinking:

"How are you supposed to bribe a VCPD member? They're all zomg hardcores into the PD role."

It is actually incredibly simple, provided you can be creative enough. After considering the idea for 10 minutes, I realized that probably one of the simplest ways of getting away with a bribe would be to be "investigated" by a non-VCPD member and then have them say that after an investigation, you were "not" guilty. Now that the idea's out in the open just watch as the VCPD looks out for this. THINK HARDER.

Because of that, the second part of the idea is to remove /c bribe, since 80% of the time I see it used, it's on a random ARPD officer looking for money all the time, or even just some random deathmatching cop, with the bare minimum bribe of $2,000, with no warning or roleplay effort whatsoever.

As for thinking that /c uncrime MUST STRICTLY be an admin command, it shouldn't. What could possibly go wrong with uncriming a player? It's not something like a copban where you would be banned for a year because you took a bribe. It could only be used for clearing investigations, taking bribes, and releasing false suspects. If an officer is being a douche about it, you could just report them to the VCPD, or an admin if it's that bad.

[Kessu]

I still think bribe shouldn't be removed, but changed..

Say, a cop accepts bribe near Senior officer. The senior officer would see a message "Something happeneded between [DC]Nylez and [EAF]Kessu" and then the all so mysterious "[EAF]Kessu is no longer wanted". minimum bribe is $1000 btw

I don't really know, I just woke up so I'll edit once I get home.

[Klaus]

I see your arguments and I don't know about anyone else, but I like /c bribe so I vote to keep it.

[Willy]

This would erase "Bad Cops" from the server... Add /c uncrime, but also keep /c bribe

[Nylez]

You can't remove /c bribe because the Bad Cops of the server still must get their chance to roleplay with a criminal.

On top of that, I agree with Kessu.
If you want to stop the random bribing, you should add a message like: CRIMINAL sent a bribe offer to COP.

So when a bribe is accepted, the leader of VCPD or FBI can think of what to do with it.
You could punish the COP who accepted the bribe with a temporary suspension or maybe a penalty.

Removing things you dislike doesn't solve it anyway, criminals will think of new ways to evade.

[freestyle_Shadow]

Nowadays:

** Most wanted criminal on streets with 300/500 wanted level / heat
** Shadow goes to catch
** Some new cop takes him to VCPD
** Criminal /c sur
** Criminal /c bribe newcop 6000
** Cop accept and free him in front of Shadow's eyes
** Shadow can just look or report to upper staff.


I agree with stormeus but maybe make uncrime accessible to lower ranks too.

[Klaus]

I agree with stormeus

Of course you do.

[stormeus]

What if /c bribe gave notification to all in said radius (say same as /c l) and then FBI and senior officer+ of ARPD could "re-sus" the criminal so he regains same wanted/heat level and the cop who accepted bribe _could_ be suspected for aiding criminal activity/corruption (again, only by Senior officer+)

Everyone would still be able to accept a bribe, but you'd need to create a situation where other cops don't see the bribe (no more bigass warning text of "no longer wanted") unless bribed infront of 69 officers with donuts but maybe normal "evade" text.

Only if this is possible, of course  :conf:

That would remove the purpose of bribe.
Also, radius's cannot be trusted too much. Especially in cases of interiors or walls separating players.

We can also fix this situation by allowing Higher ranks to remove a player from police duty.
It can be an addition to copban.
Once the duty is removed, the player can be suspected with treason.
That would be done only if the senior rank knows and has proof on who accepted the bribe.
Though they will have to figure it out on their own, script should not disclose names of the officer involved in corruption.

[Kessu]

And yet I still do not want to see /c bribe gone.

[Marcell]

Bohdi says no to this

face the truth theres no bribing any cops currently in VCPD since they prefer to die and try get 60k for killing you and not 6k for a bribe

but the worst thing is that they wont accept a bribe due to how easily they can lose their job (someone takes ur bribe u just report him and he gets demoted lol)

[freestyle_Shadow]

Bohdi says no to this

face the truth theres no bribing any cops currently in VCPD since they prefer to die and try get 60k for killing you and not 6k for a bribe

but the worst thing is that they wont accept a bribe due to how easily they can lose their job (someone takes ur bribe u just report him and he gets demoted lol)

aside from axxo

[~Legend~]

I think /c uncrime could be very useful and you'd have more than one way of getting cleared if you were false suspected.

/c bribe, if in large favour, would need re-working so that you can't walk through police walls simply due to a command.

[brian1996]

I think /c uncrime could be very useful and you'd have more than one way of getting cleared if you were false suspected.

/c bribe, if in large favour, would need re-working so that you can't walk through police walls simply due to a command.

Nothing more to say.

[Davron]

I see your arguments and I don't know about anyone else, but I like /c bribe so I vote to keep it.

add /c uncrime for senior officers that's all

[saberman]

Let players role play a bribe to their investigating officer, which would later just request on a radio to unsuspect him. It is the officer's choice to accept money and accept the risk of getting copbanned for corruption.