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Constructive criticism

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Offline Cyril

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Reply #60 on: July 29, 2012, 01:58:59 pm
What about you open a RP School to teach people how to be pro RPer ? Good idea heh ? I'm waiting you in-game to see how it goes.




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Reply #61 on: July 29, 2012, 02:04:51 pm
What about you open a RP School to teach people how to be pro RPer ? Good idea heh ? I'm waiting you in-game to see how it goes.
Roleplay isn't teached from an individual to another.
It is teached through interaction between 2 or more players.
Sadly people prefer to farm weed and moan on everything happening.



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Reply #62 on: July 29, 2012, 02:08:38 pm
Who said it was individual to another ? What restrict you to take some guys and go on the street and start a RP ?
But yeah, sadly people prefer to moan on forum than trying to change things.




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Reply #63 on: July 29, 2012, 02:11:57 pm
Who said it was individual to another ? What restrict you to take some guys and go on the street and start a RP ?
But yeah, sadly people prefer to moan on forum than trying to change things.
Nothing restricts me, I am doing it almost every day.
But then again we're talking about 3-7 guys. The rest of the server isn't involved and continues their habits.



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Reply #64 on: July 29, 2012, 02:13:03 pm
Remind me once again what's the objective with this topic?



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Reply #65 on: July 29, 2012, 02:13:42 pm
When Jcstodds organize some RP, everyone join. I think you must do it wrong, so better ask yourself what you need to improve.




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Reply #66 on: July 29, 2012, 02:16:05 pm
Remind me once again what's the objective with this topic?
Stop post hunting and find out yourself.

When Jcstodds organize some RP, everyone join. I think you must do it wrong, so better ask yourself what you need to improve.
Yes, because of his admin status of course. Everyone loves administrators. If a newbie would organize a roleplay through /ad nobody would even appear.

No offense to Jc. It's how the players behave.



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Reply #67 on: July 29, 2012, 02:28:20 pm
Stop post hunting and find out yourself.

Now you've made a mistake... Post hunting. Look pal' you made a topic to cry about the current state of the Argonath RolePlay:

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Why? Lack of roleplay / no roleplay in the server. It has been said a thousand times, want RP? RP yourself. How are we supposed to roleplay if we are being obstructed by admins who make bad decisions and rulebreakers ruining roleplay?

I showed you the Wiki arcticle that is DIRECTLY connected to that point.

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Let's start with reports. Nobody is looking in most of the reports, they are being ignored, fact. Don't even try to deny this.

Check how ironic it is, that you start with "Let's start with" and you don't even touch any other point. You are only questioning the job of the moderation and administration teams. You accuse them or being incompetent by not responding to your five reports about 1 occasion.
Hire more admins, nice solution, again falling in moaning tho'.

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Argonath should be open to constructive criticism. Countless of topics containing this got locked, deleted and their advise got ignored. No wonder a lot of veterans left the server. They became sick of not being listened to. I myself have also reccomended something to increase RP, it got ignored. Now let me ask are you even trying?

It is open for it, but guess what? There are no such topics. You try to talk about how you get ignored, but on the other hand you're just creating a topic with one finality: to moan.
You don't think so? All you've done so far is feeding an argument without showing any other way or solutions to the posted "complaints".
What kind of ideas have you presented that got ignored?

Multiple people told you already, go in-game and do field work, instead of sitting your butt here, and type inconclusive stuff, with no point at all.

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So let's see.
I am sure that I forgot something important, but it will come to my mind.. At least if this topic won't be locked / trashed in only minutes.
This is not moaning or shitting on the server, it's trying to revive actual roleplay how it was back in the days. So many flaws are being ignored.
I have spoken about this to many, many people, and the players do agree that the server is falling apart.
Isn't it time for change?

You're sure you forgot something important? Are you kidding? A 30 line text but still you think you left something important out...
It is moaning, it isn't shitting on the server but on the current players. How can you revive the role-play with this kind of topics? What flaws are being ignored? The fact that people don't role-play the same stuff as the guys from 2009? You've spoken about this to many players, only 1 has actually tried to defend your point so far. The server won't fall apart, read Argonath Vision.

So I ask you now, am I the post hunter? Or am I actually making a point?



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Reply #68 on: July 29, 2012, 02:29:24 pm
Roleplay isn't teached from an individual to another.
It is teached through interaction between 2 or more players.
TAUGHT.

Server was better four years ago? How can you know? Four years ago you weren't even able to spell your own name properly.

Lol, topic starter isn't even a good role-player. This is hilarious.

Constructive criticism? Improve yourself first, then talk about the server.




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Reply #69 on: July 29, 2012, 02:31:28 pm
Stefano is right... I tried to RP with some officers today as an Hobo searching for food and dieing.. then I saw an officer aiming on me..I didn't /report but Rp'ed the cop trying to kill me..then got su for evading...I created the Rp and got abused...

Everytime you try to Rp you fail because someone or it turns into a great DM..

I think everybody knows how to RP in the server not needed a RP School tho'.. even who can't RP will say they can RP..



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Reply #70 on: July 29, 2012, 02:38:41 pm
Stefano is right... I tried to RP with some officers today as an Hobo searching for food and dieing.. then I saw an officer aiming on me..I didn't /report but Rp'ed the cop trying to kill me..then got su for evading...I created the Rp and got abused...

Everytime you try to Rp you fail because someone or it turns into a great DM..

I think everybody knows how to RP in the server not needed a RP School tho'.. even who can't RP will say they can RP..

Well, apart of your Role Play you can always tell them that this is not a DM server, etc etc. Most of the newcomers do that because they're not well integrated in the group of usual players in the server. Tell me, what would you do if you had just registered in Argonath? Do a role-play scenario?



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Reply #71 on: July 29, 2012, 02:42:20 pm
Maybe try to show some respect to new players and stop discriminating them, then maybe they'll be more kind toward others.
I've seen recently a lot of veterans telling new players to fuck off etc..




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Reply #72 on: July 29, 2012, 02:47:34 pm
Well, apart of your Role Play you can always tell them that this is not a DM server, etc etc. Most of the newcomers do that because they're not well integrated in the group of usual players in the server. Tell me, what would you do if you had just registered in Argonath? Do a role-play scenario?

UHmmm I'll just tell in public chat I'm new and I need help.. Then someone may come to help me but btw I learned with my own as I was in Stunt Server...

Maybe try to show some respect to new players and stop discriminating them, then maybe they'll be more kind toward others.
I've seen recently a lot of veterans telling new players to f**k off etc..

I help new players and not to flame them btw :P .... but if you want more RP..
TIP: Don't show new players how to be cop or they gonna abuse you or any other player(s)...



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Reply #73 on: July 29, 2012, 02:49:34 pm
Showing them how to be a cop is not a problem, if the guy who teaches him has like 5 minutes of free time to explain simple rules. Also the main problem of the new players on cop duty is the English knowledge from my point of view.



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Reply #74 on: July 29, 2012, 02:50:41 pm
TIP: Don't show new players how to be cop or they gonna abuse you or any other player(s)...

If someone explain them, they won't misuse the command and weapons.




 


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