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North Korea seeks immediate food aid after floods

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Reply #30 on: August 04, 2012, 07:16:13 pm
1. North Korea does not know how to be thankful. We sent 5000 tons of rice per year to aid, but they did not even say a single word to appreciate it. They even said "5000 tons of rice is nothing but a small bit of bread for rats".

2. It keeps provoking South Korea for no reasons. As I alluded before, they keep positioning their missile launchers right at the border even though our truce agreements do not allow it.

3. Yes, removing their "defense". That's pretty much the same for every nation that lost wars. Japan is a good example. NK did not lose a war, but once truce is broken, it has no chance whatsoever. You should learn about effects and compensations of wars.

4. It is not allowed by the UN to test missiles across the sea, but that's what NK did. So, you cannot say they were just trying to defend themselves.

5. They do not want families in NK and SK to meet each other anymore simply because they hate SK.

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Reply #31 on: August 04, 2012, 07:24:40 pm
Yes, North Korea is no victim. But what is wanted from North Korea is more than having them say thank you to South Korea, stop provoking or allow families to meet...

And as for point 3, we can not consider this a ''war'' situation as the armistice is still up despite the threats. They want North Korea to disarm itself even if no wars break out. North Korea is a laughing sack, their technology is old, they are endlessly weaker than South Korea, yet their threats make an incredible amount of noise...

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Reply #32 on: August 04, 2012, 07:26:16 pm
Yes, North Korea is no victim. But what is wanted from North Korea is more than having them say thank you to South Korea, stop provoking or allow families to meet...

And as for point 3, we can not consider this a ''war'' situation as the armistice is still up despite the threats. They want North Korea to disarm itself even if no wars break out. North Korea is a laughing sack, their technology is old, they are endlessly weaker than South Korea, yet their threats make an incredible amount of noise...

Their threats make an incredible amount of noise because they themselves keep threatening to attack with them. Did South Korea ever threaten other nations with their army forces? No.


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Reply #33 on: August 04, 2012, 07:28:28 pm
Yes but if their threats are causing so much worry, then they must have something really intimidating. So how can they be a laughing sack with backward techology at the same time?

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Reply #34 on: August 04, 2012, 07:34:27 pm
Yes but if their threats are causing so much worry, then they must have something really intimidating. So how can they be a laughing sack with backward techology at the same time?

You got the main point wrong here again.
We criticize NK bc its leader can fix its economic crisis if they stop developing the nuclear bombs.
We even suggested to increase the amount of rice to 10000 tons if they agree to stop doing so.

Any kinds of missiles are intimidating, regardless of how advanced they are, as they still can cause lots of fatalities.


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Reply #35 on: August 04, 2012, 07:45:52 pm
The leader of North Korea is unlikely to cease developing nuclear bombs because he knows that if he does it there will be either a Libya-like (or even worse) military intervention or insurgencies supplied by foreigners that will spark a civil war, and North Korea will most likely become another ''post-Arab spring'' country - leader deposed, country in complete disorder, and the illuded population watches different groups of people fight for the succession to power...

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Reply #36 on: August 04, 2012, 07:49:42 pm
and North Korea will most likely become another ''post-Arab spring'' country

And you blame that on the outside world instead of the NK leaders?


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Reply #37 on: August 04, 2012, 07:54:32 pm
And you blame that on the outside world instead of the NK leaders?

How can Kim Jong-un take the blame for it if he is trying to not have a civil war start in North Korea?

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Reply #38 on: August 04, 2012, 07:56:25 pm
How can Kim Jong-un take the blame for it if he is trying to not have a civil war start in North Korea?

If you have failed to see it, it was the citizens that started the riots because they wasn't happy with their leader, not other countries.


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Reply #39 on: August 04, 2012, 07:59:50 pm
If you have failed to see it, it was the citizens that started the riots because they wasn't happy with their leader, not other countries.

How can you be so sure that the North Korean population are unhappy with their leader? Have you been there, or have you watched the BBC? There are people who are unhappy with the leaders of North Korea yes, but if it was a ''striking majority'' then there would be no need for NATO, nuclear weapons or anything for Kim Jong un to be deposed. When the majority of the people revolt, then there are no factors which will stop it from happening. It hasn't happened yet so...

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Reply #40 on: August 04, 2012, 08:01:44 pm
How can you be so sure that the North Korean population are unhappy with their leader? Have you been there, or have you watched the BBC? There are people who are unhappy with the leaders of North Korea yes, but if it was a ''striking majority'' then there would be no need for NATO, nuclear weapons or anything for Kim Jong un to be deposed. When the majority of the people revolt, then there are no factors which will stop it from happening. It hasn't happened yet so...

And how can you be so sure that the North Korean population are NOT unhappy with their leader? Have you been there, or have you watched the BBC?


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Reply #41 on: August 04, 2012, 08:07:04 pm
What are they criticised for then?

They're not criticised because they do not want to imitate the American model of ''democracy'', because instead they see another system as a better choice, but apparently that makes a lot of people mad?
They're not criticised because they do not want to strip themselves of their defenses to meet ''generous'' offers of ''humanitarian'' aid so they effectively put themselves in a vulnerable position to total disorder?

Why do you blame everything on America? Do you ever open you eyes to the reality around you? They aren't criticized only by America. Learn the facts or don't say anything based on your biased single sided ideas since they're missing blatant facts. Yet, I'll admit America in the scheme of North Korea has another agenda on top of the concerns. But that isn't to force North Korea to entirely conform to the ideals of Western Modernization.



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Reply #42 on: August 04, 2012, 08:11:07 pm
Why do you blame everything on America?

I am not aware of any other group of people besides the USA/NATO one which keeps criticising the North Korean situation the way they do... And besides, I'm sure you know that USA is the geopolitical, military and cultural leader of western world...

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Reply #43 on: August 04, 2012, 08:21:50 pm
How can you be so sure that the North Korean population are unhappy with their leader? Have you been there, or have you watched the BBC? There are people who are unhappy with the leaders of North Korea yes, but if it was a ''striking majority'' then there would be no need for NATO, nuclear weapons or anything for Kim Jong un to be deposed. When the majority of the people revolt, then there are no factors which will stop it from happening. It hasn't happened yet so...

As MIB said, how can you be sure that they are not unhappy with their leader?

I thought your communism period would be over soon, but it looks like you are becoming more and more fanatical and starting to blame US and the west for everything..


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Reply #44 on: August 04, 2012, 08:24:25 pm
As MIB said, how can you be sure that they are not unhappy with their leader?

As I said before, when the majority of the people decide to revolt, there's no stopping them. No matter how strong a state's military apparatus is, the people will always have the upper hand IF they are the majority. This has not happened in North Korea.

I thought your communism period would be over soon, but it looks like you are becoming more and more fanatical and starting to blame US and the west for everything..

North Korea is everything now?

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