Board Moderators For World And Local News Board

[SugarD]

I think the topic pretty much explains this one. Lately I've been seeing a huge uprising in political and personal fights and malicious arguments in topics in that board that shouldn't exist, putting off a horrible image of our community to the outside world, hurting people's feelings, and ruining perfectly good topics and discussions.

My idea is simple, and should hopefully cut back on this issue. With someone present and actively moderating the board, it will not only clean out the rule-breaking posts, but it might also hinder people's thoughts a bit about creating them to begin with.

Presently, as it stands, there are no board-specific Moderators for that board. Only those with Global Moderation or specialty rights, or Administrators, can moderate the board right now, and it doesn't appear to be working very well as those with those rights tend to have their focus in more important areas.

[Teddy]

I agree 100%.

I was thinking about mentioning this today actually as I was going to sleep last night xD

[Caltson]

I would vouch for Board Moderators on every board, espescially boards with discussions that can be disputed like there.

[JayL]

The thing is that not in every case what we see as offensive/disturbing is also offensive/disturbing for the user which it is directed at. When an user finds something disturbing they can use the report tool and they do it (plus the preventive job that current moderators do when they come across obvious rulebreak such as insulting), and seeing how we get usually 2-4 forum reports a day I think that if only the Managers+ were moderators (just to give an example of low-number staff) the demand would already be handled.

[Devin]

True that, if a post seems disrespectful/provocative to you, just report it instead of arguing with the user.
The Management/moderators will deal with it accordingly.

[SugarD]

Not all Managers or Forum Moderators can actually moderate these boards, so the report function is useless if no one sees the reports to begin with. As for the number of reports received, I don't know where people get these low numbers from, because I make more reports than that in a day myself.

[Devin]

Not all Managers or Forum Moderators can actually moderate these boards, so the report function is useless if no one sees the report to begin with. As for the number of reports received, idk where people get these low numbers from, because I make more reports than that in a day myself.

Perhaps the number of reports JayL is mentioning is in regards to actual valid reports.
I'm not pointing fingers, but perhaps you are too fast to report if you say you make more than 4 reports a day on average.

[Caltson]

Not all Managers or Forum Moderators can actually moderate these boards, so the report function is useless if no one sees the reports to begin with. As for the number of reports received, I don't know where people get these low numbers from, because I make more reports than that in a day myself.

The 'Report' function on the forum is not useless at all, every report I recieve is being handled by 3 persons at once excluding the Main Administration and is taken care off very fast.

[SugarD]

Perhaps the number of reports JayL is mentioning is in regards to actual valid reports.
I'm not pointing fingers, but perhaps you are too fast to report if you say you make more than 4 reports a day on average.

Although as he said it depends on people's views, there are many posts I see daily that are very clearly attacking other users, and often times just get ignored when I report them. I'm beginning to have a feeling that some users may be closing their own reports, because many times some of the users being reported have forum moderation rights...

The 'Report' function on the forum is not useless at all, every report I recieve is being handled by 3 persons at once excluding the Main Administration and is taken care off very fast.

I'm saying it's only useless if no one receives the report. Reports on specific boards only get reported to those with moderation rights on those boards. If no one active has moderation rights on those boards, the reports go unseen.

[Devin]

Although as he said it depends on people's views, there are many posts I see daily that are very clearly attacking other users, and often times just get ignored when I report them. I'm beginning to have a feeling that some users may be closing their own reports, because many times some of the users being reported have forum moderation rights...

Although you may have a point, I disapprove of any form of speculation especially when the speculation is coming from someone with an administrative position possibly pointing fingers at other administration members.
There ought to be some sort of mutual respect between community members, and also between administration members.

I'm saying it's only useless if no one receives the report. Reports on specific boards only get reported to those with moderation rights on those boards. If no one active has moderation rights on those boards, the reports go unseen.

No report goes unseen, reports always get linked to whom ever has the ability to deal with them, for example any forum report will be linked to Gandalf, other Owners and Community Leaders alike.

[Teddy]

The thing is that not in every case what we see as offensive/disturbing is also offensive/disturbing for the user which it is directed at. When an user finds something disturbing they can use the report tool and they do it (plus the preventive job that current moderators do when they come across obvious rulebreak such as insulting), and seeing how we get usually 2-4 forum reports a day I think that if only the Managers+ were moderators (just to give an example of low-number staff) the demand would already be handled.

True that, if a post seems disrespectful/provocative to you, just report it instead of arguing with the user.
The Management/moderators will deal with it accordingly.

So lets remove all board-only moderators then eh?

Think about that for a second, we already have board-moderators in some locations for a reason. These sections are very active, and there are more rules specific to this board than provoking and flaming that can go unreported in many cases. This is only to ease the stress and keep people on topic, as board moderators also do.

Also, if you read you would see this isn't all about going punishment happy. He is suggesting the "prevent by numbers" theory. By which seeing active forum moderators designated to that area present, will lead to keeping users actively aware that the section is being monitored and will be less inclined to lead to a rulebreak.

[SugarD]

Although you may have a point, I disapprove of any form of speculation especially when the speculation is coming from someone with an administrative position possibly pointing fingers at other administration members.
There ought to be some sort of mutual respect between community members, and also between administration members.


No report goes unseen, reports always get linked to whom ever has the ability to deal with them, for example any forum report will be linked to Gandalf, other Owners and Community Leaders alike.

1. I never said I lacked respect for anyone. This is simply the only idea I can come up with regarding these so-called low numbers of reports. It makes sense too because many of those I've reported actually are in some kind of special position in the community. I'm not saying it's just them specifically, but it's not only regular users either. If it is true, then they are only digging their own graves by doing such.

2. As for Community Leaders and above, yes, but like I said in my first post, they don't have the time to deal with these kinds of things on a daily basis. Their focus is on much larger things, and they shouldn't have to sit here and babysit users to stop arguments and attacks on each other, which is exactly why Moderators exist in this community's forum. They don't need another thing dumped on them just because people can't get along.

You're also misinterpreting my point. No, not all reports go seen. Anyone with certain rank rights may be able to see them, yes, but as I said, many of them don't have time to deal with these reports. If no Moderators are assigned to handle those boards, (either through global or specific rights), then no one will see the reports to begin with on a regular basis, and the fighting will only escalate until someone with rights notices and issues more severe punishment.

He is suggesting the "prevent by numbers" theory. By which seeing active forum moderators designated to that area present, will lead to keeping users actively aware that the section is being monitored and will be less inclined to lead to a rulebreak.

Exactly! If users don't attack each other to begin with, then the issue never arises from the start. If they do attack each other, then it only increases until the time where someone can stop it successfully, which can even sometimes lead to more anger, and more hateful topics or replies.

[Devin]

If users can't go along respecting each others views and making reason for posts to get reported, they won't be in here for much longer.
It is a privilege to be able to have all these boards and all these different topics, if a person chooses to abuse their privileges, it will be removed if necessary.

[SugarD]

If users can't go along respecting each others views and making reason for posts to get reported, they won't be in here for much longer.

User reports that aren't breaking the rules are perfectly valid. As was said many times previously, users have differing views. You can't just remove someone from the community for reporting posts they see as malicious.

It is a privilege to be able to have all these boards and all these different topics, if a person chooses to abuse their privileges, it will be removed if necessary.

Agreed. I'm getting sick of seeing this negative image of our community being put across because users in these boards don't wish to get along just because they don't agree with each other.

[JayL]

He is suggesting the "prevent by numbers" theory

I think that if only the Managers+ were moderators (just to give an example of low-number staff) the demand would already be handled.

 :roll:

SugarD: what do you mean with not all managers being able to moderate certain boards?