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NYPD cop shooting charging pit bull

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on: August 16, 2012, 10:40:57 pm

The dog, Star, was keeping officers away from his master, who was suffering a seizure. When police approached, the dog lunged toward a bystander and then rushed the cop who then shot Star in the head.

What would you had done in the suit of the officer in such situation? I find it pretty disgusting to shoot a dog who only protect his owner, obviously scared and no idea what to do. Though on the same time I understand the officer, no one want to be beaten by a pit bull. The nightstick could had been used to defend him self in my opinion actually!

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Source: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/video-graphic-footage-shows-nypd-shooting-charging-pit-bull-article-1.1137626



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Reply #1 on: August 16, 2012, 10:46:24 pm
Pit bulls are known to be extremely agressive and not to give up when fighting.
While they can be very sweet if controlled properly, a put bull raging is a lethal threat.
The officer had to choose between the possibility of losing the human life of the owner, getting himself and/or other bystanders hurt, or shooting the dog. If he was aware of the breed, I believe he took the correct decision. With the owner clearly being incapable of controlling, and the dog being willing to give his life to protect his owner, someone could have been seriously hurt. Waiting for animal control was not an option with an unconscious human lying there.
At such time the owner probably wished he had gotten the chihuahua.

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Reply #2 on: August 16, 2012, 10:57:09 pm
chihuahua

The dog which looks like a small ugly mouse?



The officer could have used his nightstick to hit the dog several times, using a gun was not neccessary in my opinion. I would never in my life kill a dog since I know how hard is it when you lose one.
At such time the owner wished he had gotten the chihuahua, but after his dog got shot, he wished to kill the officer.


And also, the officer could have shot him somewhere else, not directly into the head, the dog would fall down and he could successfuly save the injuried man.



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Reply #3 on: August 16, 2012, 11:01:28 pm


And also, the officer could have shot him somewhere else, not directly into the head, the dog would fall down and he could successfuly save the injuried man.


1.) You have obviously never fired a gun, do you know how difficult it would be to draw a weapon, aim for a small target such as a dogs leg that is moving, then hit the target.

2.) A police baton is not going to do shit against a dog, you people really should not comment on police work when you have never experienced anything close to this sort of thing in real life.



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Reply #4 on: August 16, 2012, 11:07:56 pm

2.) A police baton is not going to do shit against a dog, you people really should not comment on police work when you have never experienced anything close to this sort of thing in real life.

This.... Hitting a pitbull with a baton wont do shit, IF you ain't targeting the right area, by hitting it will only make it angryer and it will atack you even more..

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Reply #5 on: August 16, 2012, 11:15:28 pm

1.) You have obviously never fired a gun, do you know how difficult it would be to draw a weapon, aim for a small target such as a dogs leg that is moving, then hit the target.

2.) A police baton is not going to do shit against a dog, you people really should not comment on police work when you have never experienced anything close to this sort of thing in real life.

I'm going to shoot four times a week since my driver worked for SWAT (In Serbia it's named 'SAJ') and he taught me to shoot.

1.) The dog was very close to him, he could have moved 30cm left or extend his hand on one side and shoot the dog.
2.) Well, I never tried kicking a dog with a baton and I agree that he wouldn't do shit since it's a big dog.



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Reply #6 on: August 16, 2012, 11:23:36 pm
A few years back while I was in countryside I was attacked by a vicious dog, wasn't a pitt bull but still fucking big. I just literally sat down on him and SMSed my cousin for help, although I got biten in the process



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Reply #7 on: August 16, 2012, 11:25:37 pm
I am only wondering though, what does the police academy teaches in situations like these. Seeing the footage, he most likely re-acted on human instinct and shot the dog, can't really blame him.

However what's more worrying is that this society is entertained and fed by violence. Both in the cases of this shooting, aswell as the knife man, there were crowds following just to see the sight, this is a mad world we live in.



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Reply #8 on: August 16, 2012, 11:28:01 pm
Pit Bulls were bred orginally with the strength and perseverance to kill a bull. This means that once they attack, they have no way back apart from being completely disabled.
In cases where they have attacked humans or other dogs, even a full blow to the head would not make them let go of the victim unless they were hit unconscious.
Shooting such a dog in the leg will not prevent an attack, it will only make it more prone to attack full force.

As much as I would hate to shoot a dog, I would do the same in this particular situation.
With a more controllable dog, even if its a big one, I might try another approack, but not with one that is known for its lethal force.

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Reply #9 on: August 16, 2012, 11:36:20 pm
I am only wondering though, what does the police academy teaches in situations like these. Seeing the footage, he most likely re-acted on human instinct and shot the dog, can't really blame him.

However what's more worrying is that this society is entertained and fed by violence. Both in the cases of this shooting, aswell as the knife man, there were crowds following just to see the sight, this is a mad world we live in.

It is standard practice to shoot an animal if it assaults a police officer.



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Reply #10 on: August 16, 2012, 11:55:15 pm
Lack of professionalism - it's what I can say seeing such thing.

A similiar situation happened two years ago near my grandma's house and everything went well. I had the oportunity to see everything and I must admit it was an hard process since either the doberman and the rottweiler were kinda stressed (like the dog on the pic).



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Reply #11 on: August 16, 2012, 11:57:00 pm
It is standard practice to shoot an animal if it assaults a police officer.

However if you read further, the dog attacked anyone who was getting too close. Obviously the cop should have backed off and call animal control, but he did not and that's what led to the shooting when it got too dangerous.



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Reply #12 on: August 17, 2012, 12:15:20 am
and another cop going to be suspended  or fired due to public outlast, I cant say who I feel more sorry for in this case.



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Reply #13 on: August 17, 2012, 12:26:56 am
NY - Cop Shoots Dog In East Village

Seems like it was handled safely and that cop got a decent shot on the dog when it was running at that speed towards him.



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Reply #14 on: August 17, 2012, 12:40:35 am
Lack of professionalism - it's what I can say seeing such thing.
I wonder what you'd say if the headline said "police officer fails to save man's life due to being unable to shoot a charging pitbull"..


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