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Reply #15 on: August 17, 2012, 12:52:01 am
To sum up, the fault is completely the owner's for taking a Bulldog to a ride in such a populated area. Should he have not bring it, there would be no problem.



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Reply #16 on: August 17, 2012, 12:53:31 am
What's the point of that bitch yelling about why he shot the dog, it was clearly charging to bite him. He did the right thing. There is a reason pitbulls are illegal in some countries and states...The officer did the right thing, end of story.

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Reply #17 on: August 17, 2012, 01:10:39 am
I wonder what you'd say if the headline said "police officer fails to save man's life due to being unable to shoot a charging pitbull"..
Check what I said above.

A similiar incident happened near the house of my grandma and the policeman was able to control the two dogs which were acting like the one on the video.
Not even to mention the portuguese's police forces aren't so well trained like in the other countries, nor it happened in a big city where animal control must exist. In other hand, what happened near my grandma's house was in the middle of the nowhere (you move around and all you see his bushes and trees).



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Reply #18 on: August 17, 2012, 03:18:37 am
I hate this kind of shit. Pitbulls aren't bad dogs and the only time the breed gets attention is when something negative happens. They need to start training on these situations.   It's always shoot and kill, shoot and kill. The cops saw the dog was in protective aggression, but still approached? It's not like they didn't have time to maybe try pepper spray? I didn't see FDNY on scene and i doubt there was much the cops could have done to help the homeless man that somehow owns a pitbull in new york city w/o EMS. But what do i know.

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Reply #19 on: August 17, 2012, 05:32:54 am
Pit bulls are known to be extremely agressive and not to give up when fighting.
While they can be very sweet if controlled properly, a put bull raging is a lethal threat.
The officer had to choose between the possibility of losing the human life of the owner, getting himself and/or other bystanders hurt, or shooting the dog. If he was aware of the breed, I believe he took the correct decision. With the owner clearly being incapable of controlling, and the dog being willing to give his life to protect his owner, someone could have been seriously hurt. Waiting for animal control was not an option with an unconscious human lying there.
At such time the owner probably wished he had gotten the chihuahua.
Exactly this. It is always unfortunate for such situations to happen, and I personally hope it never happens to me because I don't know if I could pull the trigger, but sadly it's one of those regretful decisions officers have to make without any time to think...



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Reply #20 on: August 17, 2012, 06:31:30 am
Oh well as I see officer did not had much choicec there..Just looks nasty how dog went out.. :(



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Reply #21 on: August 17, 2012, 09:22:34 am
" WHY ARE U SHOOTING HIM ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? " - EVERY WITCH HUNTING ADMIN EXISTING IN THIS WORLD

FUCK POLICE - TUPAC


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Reply #22 on: August 17, 2012, 10:10:23 am
Lack of professionalism - it's what I can say seeing such thing.

A similiar situation happened two years ago near my grandma's house and everything went well. I had the oportunity to see everything and I must admit it was an hard process since either the doberman and the rottweiler were kinda stressed (like the dog on the pic).
Knowing their character a dobermann and rottweiler would not need to be shot in such a situation. While they can be vicious, they are also able to be controlled when approached with the right authority.
A pit bull in attack mode has no way to switch off other than a very authoritative owner.

The difference in the case you witnessed was that the dogs were protecting the property, not the person.

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Reply #23 on: August 17, 2012, 10:55:54 am
I dont think the breed of the dog should matter as even smaller dogs can still maul people, hell a domestic cat is more lethal as its claws can easily penetrate the human skin, but Lucky for this freecop the State of New York has laws that make it ok for cops to shoot breeds like Pitbulls, still I hope that cop at least get sued and has to pay hefty fines, because trigger happy cops are a threat to everyone. However I wouldnt fuck with that cop looks like hes got some fast and accurate pistol shooting skills.

The difference in the case you witnessed was that the dogs were protecting the property, not the person.

I fail to see how its much of a difference also medics took there sweet time showing up in the vid, hell more cops showed up in fact this more reminds me of the freecops of arogonath Shoot first let the rping man die on the side of the road and have your buddies in blue showup and brag about your good dm*cough* shooting skills.



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Reply #24 on: August 17, 2012, 11:03:49 am
I dont think the breed of the dog should matter as even smaller dogs can still maul people, hell a domestic cat is more lethal as its claws can easily penetrate the human skin, but Lucky for this freecop the State of New York has laws that make it ok for cops to shoot breeds like Pitbulls, still I hope that cop at least get sued and has to pay hefty fines, because trigger happy cops are a threat to everyone. However I wouldnt f**k with that cop looks like hes got some fast and accurate pistol shooting skills.
I fail to see how its much of a difference also medics took there sweet time showing up in the vid, hell more cops showed up in fact this more reminds me of the freecops of arogonath Shoot first let the rping man die on the side of the road and have your buddies in blue showup and brag about your good dm*cough* shooting skills.
The breed of dog does matter a lot more as the size. The issue is how controllable a dog is when stressed, and how easy it is to stop an attack. The problem with a pit bull is not that they are in any way a bad breed, but that they as good as impossible to take out of attack mode. That is in their genes, and you can not blame the dog for this as it is the result of human selection. In a way they are like bees.
Can be useful and are much more peaceful as their reputation. However once they attack, they go to the end.

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Reply #25 on: August 17, 2012, 11:11:55 am
Knowing their character a dobermann and rottweiler would not need to be shot in such a situation. While they can be vicious, they are also able to be controlled when approached with the right authority.
A pit bull in attack mode has no way to switch off other than a very authoritative owner.

The difference in the case you witnessed was that the dogs were protecting the property, not the person.
No, they were not protecting the property, they were protecting their owner who had been hitted by a car while was playing with them.

It doesn't mean if it's a pitbull or a chihauha, every single dog is dangerous in this kind of situation.



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Reply #26 on: August 17, 2012, 11:26:11 am
The breed of dog does matter a lot more as the size. The issue is how controllable a dog is when stressed, and how easy it is to stop an attack. The problem with a pit bull is not that they are in any way a bad breed, but that they as good as impossible to take out of attack mode. That is in their genes, and you can not blame the dog for this as it is the result of human selection. In a way they are like bees.
Can be useful and are much more peaceful as their reputation. However once they attack, they go to the end.

Breed should not be the reason, thats like saying Muslims are all terrorists because of 9/11 and such should be treated as, Also im not biologist but pit bulls have a lockjaw effect, unlike other breeds of dogs that can attack and just maul and shred people to bits, Also  correct me if im wrong but werent they also bread to attack the legs of bulls witch unlike most police attack dogs that would kill a person in a very short time if they had no command to stop, and even small dogs can be vicious. As an example the Japaneses had a very small/medium sized dog even smaller then pitbulls usually that would attack American Marines and due to there small size and quick aglity were almost cretin if not shot form a distance to do much damage to there target.  A breed of dog shouldn't be treated like it is, when almost of dogs can easily be fatal even without extreme situations.



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Reply #27 on: August 17, 2012, 11:41:24 am
Hey look at the bright side, the dog is being taking care of therefore he made it.


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Reply #28 on: August 17, 2012, 12:03:38 pm
Breed should not be the reason, thats like saying Muslims are all terrorists because of 9/11 and such should be treated as, Also im not biologist but pit bulls have a lockjaw effect, unlike other breeds of dogs that can attack and just maul and shred people to bits, Also  correct me if im wrong but werent they also bread to attack the legs of bulls witch unlike most police attack dogs that would kill a person in a very short time if they had no command to stop, and even small dogs can be vicious. As an example the Japaneses had a very small/medium sized dog even smaller then pitbulls usually that would attack American Marines and due to there small size and quick aglity were almost cretin if not shot form a distance to do much damage to there target.  A breed of dog shouldn't be treated like it is, when almost of dogs can easily be fatal even without extreme situations.
The difference is, als I already states, how controllable a dog is. Pit bulls were indeed bred to attack bulls, and as a result highly resistant to pain during an attack.
A police attack dog is trained to perform a specific task on command, and if it shows the smallest signs of performing this outside the commands, it will be taken out of service and/or killed.
The Japanese dogs would be similarly treated if still running free.

Treat animals like animals and people like people. Once you start seeing animals as people you lose your command over them. You might see people as animals, but that is an equally dangerous state of mind.

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Reply #29 on: August 17, 2012, 07:33:44 pm
The problem for the officer is not only the dog but the people shouting "Why did you do that!". I think the officer did the right thing, it seems as though it was the only option. You have a street full of people and a wild dog.

Not the nicest thing to do but it had to be done.



 


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