NYPD cop shooting charging pit bull

[Ratko Gavrilovic]

If there were more officers (can't see) he could have been distracted while the man was braught to safety.

2.) A police baton is not going to do shit against a dog, you people really should not comment on police work when you have never experienced anything close to this sort of thing in real life.

Because only policemen have gun experience, right.

[Hidduh]

They could've atleast kill it properly instead of watching the dog suffering a slow and painful death..

[JDC]

They could've atleast kill it properly instead of watching the dog suffering a slow and painful death..

Actually, the dog is alive and kept in care.

Because only policemen have gun experience, right.

It's not only about gun experience, but also knowing how to deal with the dog.

Try to stop a charging pitbull with nothing but a police baton, then see if you can avoid injuries to yourself (and others who might be nearby).

The dog could have been dealt with had there been more time (i.e. distractions, calling animal control), but time was not a luxury as there was someone's life at stake, the unconscious man on the sidewalk.

[Ratko Gavrilovic]

It's not only about gun experience, but also knowing how to deal with the dog.

Try to stop a charging pitbull with nothing but a police baton, then see if you can avoid injuries to yourself (and others who might be nearby).

The dog could have been dealt with had there been more time (i.e. distractions, calling animal control), but time was not a luxury as there was someone's life at stake, the unconscious man on the sidewalk.

I was not talking about that, but how Moose claims that you can only have experience with weaponry from police work.

[JDC]

I was not talking about that, but how Moose claims that you can only have experience with weaponry from police work.

Misunderstood your post, my bad.

Although I am curious, what job class (other than police) can put people in a position where they have to deal with a pit bull using guns / batons?

[Ratko Gavrilovic]

Misunderstood your post, my bad.

Although I am curious, what job class (other than police) can put people in a position where they have to deal with a pit bull using guns / batons?

It doesn't have to be a job position.
The fact that it was a cop is random.
The man that the pitbull charged at could be a random civilian.

[Alan.Wake]

Old man > Shit just got real.

[Mikal]

That cop was well in the WRONG, now I know what people mean when they talk about American cops being trigger happy, that dog could have been easily controlled without using lethal force, the dog was only trying to protect it's owner, as a civilian went closer all the dog did is nudge him in the leg with his head, not exactly biting him is it.. Sure the guy was having a seizure and the dog wouldn't let anyone get close, but NY has tons of dog control people, why didn't they just radio for one in? Surely a seizure isnt enough to directly kill someone before animal control could arrive, I would have risked a bite instead of shooting it though.

[SugarD]

They could've atleast kill it properly instead of watching the dog suffering a slow and painful death..

The dog was shot in the head...

[Gimli]

Surely a seizure isnt enough to directly kill someone before animal control could arrive, I would have risked a bite instead of shooting it though.

So Amy Winehouse is not dead? :wow:

According to wikipedia, 8-17% of people with epilepsy die while having a seizure. I would rather shoot a dog than play russian roulette..

[Celso]

Not even to mention the portuguese's police forces aren't so well trained like in the other countries, nor it happened in a big city where animal control must exist. In other hand, what happened near my grandma's house was in the middle of the nowhere (you move around and all you see his bushes and trees).

Well, the portuguese force is actualy more trained then you think, they are trained to use force (not guns but body force) to take down suspects so they would deal with a dog attack quit nicely but still if something appened like in this video i am sure they are allowed to withraw their gun and arm the dog but this officer was probably trained to draw is weapon when someone's life is at danger, and since a pit bull is a very agressive and vicious dog the cop had no other option then shotting the dog to safe his live.

[SugarD]

So Amy Winehouse is not dead? :wow:

According to wikipedia, 8-17% of people with epilepsy die while having a seizure. I would rather shoot a dog than play russian roulette..

Seizures, both directly and indirectly, can kill you, yes.

As for epilepsy, those numbers are such because it's a disorder where seizures either randomly happen, or are triggered by a specific reason/thing.

Seizures are not only the loss of control of the body's muscles, but it can also lead to irregular heart beat, stroke, and other complications...not to mention self-inflicted injury during the seizure itself.

It is definitely considered a life-threatening situation when someone has one.

[Hess]

I do feel sorry for the cop for being put in such a situation. The dog was clearly posing a threat to the public in a busy area and went into attack-mode, in order to defend its owner. The cop had to make a quick decision, which I believe was the correct one, even if it isn't seen that way by everyone. To those who say they wouldn't have shot him - really? If you were in that cop's situation would you just stand there and let the dog charge at you and attack you, and possibly anyone else nearby?

The cop had little choice and little time to react, and yet he did what many say was what they would have done also.

It seems that no matter what action the police took, people are going to accuse the them of handling the situation incorrectly. What would have been the "correct" action to take under the circumstances?

still I hope that cop at least get sued and has to pay hefty fines, because trigger happy cops are a threat to everyone.

It's disappointing that you feel that way.

Surely a seizure isnt enough to directly kill someone before animal control could arrive, I would have risked a bite instead of shooting it though.

Sure, they could have sat there waiting for animal control or whatever, but to me it looked like they didn't have a lot of time to react and get people a safe distance away from the situation, and the dog was already attacking people. As for risking a "bite", its easy to say that you would do that, and maybe you would have... but you were not the one who actually had to make the choice on the spot. And I'm not an expert on dogs, but by the sounds of it pitbulls can do a lot more than just "bite"...

[Taylor_P]

It's disappointing that you feel that way.

Well Hess, allow me explain in more details what I meant. Here in the US anyone can be sued and held accountable for there actions, so if the guy who was having a seizure deiced to sue the officer personally and not the NYPD or City of New York, Then hes most likely going to win and that's how justice works in the county, even doing the right thing or sometimes the wrong thing can be spun into your favor. Even if its police protocol, or just the right thing and hell  if the man went to a group like PETA, hell he'd have a free lawyer willing to sue that officer so much that he'd be sued into bankruptcy and his family would be in financial trouble for years, that's why on my first post I was undecided on who I felt sorry for more.

[Chris_Knight]

The funny part how people spread they ideas over internet "how cop should have reacted" . While if you put anyone out of this crowd not able shoot the dog on charge,would lose an arm or even worse,dog might went totally out of control and cause chaos,damage  multiple people in nearby. 

You can't hit an pit bull and hope he won't f**k you up afterwards,this is not "in my view point it works'' scenario over internet about idea,it's about protecting owners life,police life,and people around.

I definitely care about animals,and I'm glad dog is being taken care of and is not dead,however you have to do what you got to do,and can you hold the pressure and press the trigger for good only can answer an officer being in certain situation,not people over internet and they cool story's about comparing an non related example .