NYPD cop shooting charging pit bull

[Hess]

The funny part how people spread they ideas over internet "how cop should have reacted" . While if you put anyone out of this crowd not able shoot the dog on charge,would lose an arm or even worse,dog might went totally out of control and cause chaos,damage  multiple people in nearby. 

You can't hit an pit bull and hope he won't f**k you up afterwards,this is not "in my view point it works'' scenario over internet about idea,it's about protecting owners life,police life,and people around.

I definitely care about animals,and I'm glad dog is being taken care of and is not dead,however you have to do what you got to do,and can you hold the pressure and press the trigger for good only can answer an officer being in certain situation,not people over internet and they cool story's about comparing an non related example .

Exactly.

[Reece]

If the officer hadn't shot it, there could of been a repeat of this:

Dog attacks police officers in east London

[Mikal]

So Amy Winehouse is not dead? :wow:

According to wikipedia, 8-17% of people with epilepsy die while having a seizure. I would rather shoot a dog than play russian roulette..

I'm not a doctor so I wouldn't know much on seizures, I just assumed it wouldn't have killed the man and I guess I was wrong. :razz:
And JDC said the dog is alive? Is that true? If so I'm happy that the dog is alive and can go back to it's owner, after all it was only trying to protect him.

If the officer hadn't shot it, there could of been a repeat of this:

Dog attacks police officers in east London

Wow, is this a pitbul? If so this is why they are banned from the UK, not long ago there was a story in the Echo about a gran who owned a pitbal, had her grandchild stay over and the pit ripped him to peices and killed him, the cops had to use something like an MP5 to kill it.

And was the British cops shooting the pit in the video dead? And how come the Pit was so still before they shot it?

[Ratko Gavrilovic]

I'm not a doctor so I wouldn't know much on seizures, I just assumed it wouldn't have killed the man and I guess I was wrong. :razz:
And JDC said the dog is alive? Is that true? If so I'm happy that the dog is alive and can go back to it's owner, after all it was only trying to protect him.

Even if it still is alive I doubt it will be able to function normally.
A bullet through the head probably corrupted something.

[Mikal]

Even if it still is alive I doubt it will be able to function normally.
A bullet through the head probably corrupted something.

My guess is it's blind in one eye if it is still alive, it appears the cop shot him on the right side of his head as you can see in the video the pitbul is sticking his head to the right in the air as if it's in pain directly there.. :roll:

[Grant_Norris]

I think not because the officer shot the dog but hearing the cry's coming from the dog after he was shot that made the matter worse and made the buy standers more angry yell at the cop.

But then again people would find any reason to yell theses words "FUCK THE POLICE!!" 

[Mikal]

I think not because the officer shot the dog but hearing the cry's coming from the dog after he was shot that made the matter worse and made the buy standers more angry yell at the cop.

But then again people would find any reason to yell theses words "f**k THE POLICE!!" 

I'm not sure about American cops but I know British cops (in some forces) wear steel toecap boots, I'm sure 1 kick of them would have been more than enough to hurt then dog and keep it alive instead of shooting it, in this instance, I say f**k the police, or the officer that shot the dog..

[SugarD]

Well Hess, allow me explain in more details what I meant. Here in the US anyone can be sued and held accountable for there actions, so if the guy who was having a seizure deiced to sue the officer personally and not the NYPD or City of New York, Then hes most likely going to win and that's how justice works in the county, even doing the right thing or sometimes the wrong thing can be spun into your favor. Even if its police protocol, or just the right thing and hell  if the man went to a group like PETA, hell he'd have a free lawyer willing to sue that officer so much that he'd be sued into bankruptcy and his family would be in financial trouble for years, that's why on my first post I was undecided on who I felt sorry for more.

That is actually not true. Yes, the man can sue the officer in civil court, but if he is proved to have done things according to Department protocol, then no, the man would not win the case. The officer would. Same goes for any criminal court hearings and investigations...including that of the one of the shooting.

@Chris: Very well said, and that just about sums it up for this topic. When fight or flight kicks in, you aren't thinking the same as when you are sitting at a computer, typing something out online.

@Hess' response: Perfectly explained. You nailed every single point I was trying to make there. Well done!

[Taylor_P]

That is actually not true. Yes, the man can sue the officer in civil court, but if he is proved to have done things according to Department protocol, then no, the man would not win the case. The officer would. Same goes for any criminal court hearings and investigations...including that of the one of the shooting.

Then at that point the man could sue the department pending on the animal cruelty laws of the state and then a case like that would most likely go to the States Supreme courts to be deiced on. In America you can keep a case going on for a long time so long as there is merit in the case all the way up to the National Supreme court. Dont believe me Sugar look how a man like OJ Simpson can get off a murder charge even with evidence against him that proves otherwise. Many people dont understand the laws as lawmakers themselves don't either care to read all the fine print or are being back by lobbyist who benefit from said laws, and dont question the laws quite sad actually.

[SugarD]

Then at that point the man could sue the department pending on the animal cruelty laws of the state and then a case like that would most likely go to the States Supreme courts to be deiced on. In America you can keep a case going on for a long time so long as there is merit in the case all the way up to the National Supreme court. Dont believe me Sugar look how a man like OJ Simpson can get off a murder charge even with evidence against him that proves otherwise. Many people dont understand the laws as lawmakers themselves don't either care to read all the fine print or are being back by lobbyist who benefit from said laws, and dont question the laws quite sad actually.

I think you have misunderstood the American justice system. OJ Simpson got off on technicalities and loopholes, likely pushed through via other corrupt and/or sneaky methods. That has nothing to do with this incident.

As for animal cruelty laws, that is not animal cruelty. Yes, it is unfortunate, but even the ASPCA would denounce this as self-defense. Just like with humans, you cannot control what an animal will do when it becomes dangerous towards an individual.

As for the Supreme Courts, (although I don't agree with our system for this), animal cruelty laws aren't covered by the Constitution nor the Supreme Courts, state or federal. That means the case would never go that far.

As for the comment: "In America you can keep a case going on for a long time so long as there is merit in the case all the way up to the National Supreme court."
Not necessarily true. The Supreme Court only deals with laws regarding Constitutional rights and infringement of such. Unless a Constitutional law, statement, or right is being infringed upon, the Supreme Court holds no authority over any civil or criminal cases.

[duffman]

The cop did the right thing, cut the bullshit over here.

[Gandalf]

I'm not sure about American cops but I know British cops (in some forces) wear steel toecap boots, I'm sure 1 kick of them would have been more than enough to hurt then dog and keep it alive instead of shooting it, in this instance, I say f**k the police, or the officer that shot the dog..

I think kicking a dog to death is worse as shooting it. But hey, you are the animal lover...

[JDC]

I think kicking a dog to death is worse as shooting it. But hey, you are the animal lover...

Ironic how some people would rather see the dog being kicked to death (which can result in multiple bone fractures and internal organ damage) than receiving a bullet wound (which destroys much less tissues) which does not even have a 100% chance of being fatal.

[Y2JFaN]

I'm not sure about American cops but I know British cops (in some forces) wear steel toecap boots, I'm sure 1 kick of them would have been more than enough to hurt then dog and keep it alive instead of shooting it, in this instance, I say f**k the police, or the officer that shot the dog..

Yes f**k the police and f**k that officer for signing up and risking his life to even become an officer, and f**k him to responding to a desperate situation and not allowing an uncontrolled defensive pitbull scare, threaten, and eventually attack/assault/bite innocent people or himself, and I think f**k him for being human and making such a decision in a crowded area under a lot of stress.


I think what most people here miss is the fact the officer had not even reached for his Gun until the pitbull started rushing for him. Don't you think if he was some bastard cop who was abusive of his power he would have subdued the pitbull (possible by shooting) before it charged for him? It is clearly obvious for anyone who has put thought into this that it was a desperate, last chance decision. The phrase 'Lesser of two evils' comes into mind here.

[Radagast]

Nobody loves dogs more than me, but I would have hacked minigun and 9999 bullets, using them all on this dog.