NYPD cop shooting charging pit bull

[Dolfagr]

Nobody loves dogs more than me, but I would have hacked minigun and 9999 bullets, using them all on this dog.

At least that would not make it cry so sadly..

[Mikal]

I think kicking a dog to death is worse as shooting it. But hey, you are the animal lover...

My house has lots of pets, 17 chickens, 2 dogs, fish, birds, rabbits, I might aswell count my 4 sisters and 1 brother as animals too with the mess they make.. :roll:
Anyway I don't mean kick the dog to death, what I meant is kick it atleast to make it stop being agressive and maybe show it not to fuck with humans without shooting it's eye out..
Sure Pitbulls are the most aggressive dog on the planet (One that can be tamed as a pet anyway, unlike wild dogs..), but if they were going to shoot it, atleast shoot it more to put it out of it's misery faster instead of leaving it roll round on the floor crying in pain.

[Radagast]

The threat was neutralized. That's the most important thing in a situation like that, not whether or not it's suffering.

[Dolfagr]

The threat was neutralized. That's the most important thing in a situation like that, not whether or not it's suffering.

That would be correct if everyone had the same point of view regarding the subject.

[Radagast]

I'm speaking as an animal-lover, and I can see the other side. Those who can't really need to have their heads checked. Human life is more important, even and especially in that case.

[Gandalf]

My house has lots of pets, 17 chickens, 2 dogs, fish, birds, rabbits, I might aswell count my 4 sisters and 1 brother as animals too with the mess they make.. :roll:
Anyway I don't mean kick the dog to death, what I meant is kick it atleast to make it stop being agressive and maybe show it not to f**k with humans without shooting it's eye out..
Sure Pitbulls are the most aggressive dog on the planet (One that can be tamed as a pet anyway, unlike wild dogs..), but if they were going to shoot it, atleast shoot it more to put it out of it's misery faster instead of leaving it roll round on the floor crying in pain.

A pit bull is certainly not an agressive dog. In fact most people who see one will not even understant its reputation. What sets a pit bull apart from other dogs and earned its reputation is that they do not have the possibility to reconsider their attack. If they attack, which is only if they are either trained badly or, as in this case, feel they have to protect the only way to stop the attack is to fully incapacitate the dog.
They will not back off because someone kicked them, because they broke a leg or are missing an ear.
The only way to stop them is to full incapacitate, once they reach this breaking point.
If trained well, this point of no return is not reached unless in special ciscumstances and a pit bull can be a very good companion and family dog.
The reason the officer did the right thing is not because every dog should be shot in such a situation. It is not because a pit bull is an overly agressive dog. It is the combination of the pit bull being brought in a situation where it would reach a point of no return and the need to save a human life.

[[WS]Jacob]

I'm not sure about American cops but I know British cops (in some forces) wear steel toecap boots, I'm sure 1 kick of them would have been more than enough to hurt then dog and keep it alive instead of shooting it, in this instance, I say f**k the police, or the officer that shot the dog..

I don't think anyone would dare kick that dog. It would make it more angry and would not stop the threat. British cops would probably just get in there cars and drive off, leave it to the animal authorities.

[JDC]

Analysis for those who were still not able to grasp how and why the officer chose "the lesser of two evils".

Sure Pitbulls are the most aggressive dog on the planet (One that can be tamed as a pet anyway, unlike wild dogs..), but if they were going to shoot it, atleast shoot it more to put it out of it's misery faster instead of leaving it roll round on the floor crying in pain.

If the officer shot the dog repeatedly or ensured it was dead, it would not have been given the chance to live as it is now.

In such a situation where he had less time to react (making it impossible to call animal control), the officer had three options:

- Avoid / run from the dog
- Kick the dog until it is incapacitated
- Shoot the dog repeatedly
- Shoot the dog once

The first option was not the best course of action, as the pitbull in its state then could have attacked somebody else, which is not a very good idea with the unconscious man on the ground. If the necessity came to shoot the dog when it was already attacking somebody else (rather than if the dog was about to charge at the shooter), there is the additional risk of shooting that person.

With the second option, given the nature of pitbulls once they reach the point of no return, most likely the dog would have had several broken limbs, fractured ribs, and damaged internal organs before it became incapacitated, not to mention as well the very real possibility of the dog dying from internal injuries.

With the third option, the pitbull does not suffer internal injuries as in the second option, but it has no possibility to survive as it was shot to ensure death. While it may not be rolling around the ground and crying in such a pitiful manner, it was deprived of the chance to survive.

The fourth option is what the officer carried out. While the pitbull's suffering might look unacceptable to some, it was protected from greater suffering (broken bones and internal organs) and given the chance to live.

[[WS]Jacob]

The fourth option is what the officer carried out. While the pitbull's suffering might look unacceptable to some, it was protected from greater suffering (broken bones and internal organs) and given the chance to live.

But has it?

[SugarD]

But has it?

If it wasn't killed, then yes.

[JDC]

But has it?

The dog is currently alive and under care, and can go back to its owner soon.

[Mikal]

The dog is currently alive and under care, and can go back to its owner soon.

What condition would it be in after being shot in the head?
After reading some of these comments I guess the cop did do right, but I'de atleast have aimed for a place less lethal than it's head like it's rear end or legs.. :redface:

[SugarD]

What condition would it be in after being shot in the head?
After reading some of these comments I guess the cop did do right, but I'de atleast have aimed for a place less lethal than it's head like it's rear end or legs.. :redface:

Well keep in mind that officers are trained to shoot to kill if they must open fire. Using their firearm is supposed to be a last resort, and if used, supposed to be effective at just that.

[[WS]Jacob]

The dog is currently alive and under care, and can go back to its owner soon.

Then the officer did the right thing. A good outcome.

[JDC]

What condition would it be in after being shot in the head?
After reading some of these comments I guess the cop did do right, but I'de atleast have aimed for a place less lethal than it's head like it's rear end or legs.. :redface:

With an angry dog charging towards you at high speed and very little time to react, the place of aim is not exactly a choice.

Also, not so sure if the leg is such a good place as you would have a dog that would have to walk for the rest of its life on 3 legs.