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Gay parades banned in Moscow for 100 years

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Reply #45 on: August 18, 2012, 06:53:45 pm
There was a gay parade in my town yesterday and the gay leader sat speaking gibberish on the megaphone for 3 hours a couple meters away from my window.

Oh Muscovites, how jealous I am of you.
I would have thrown a brick at him.

If there wasn't any police nearby that is.



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Reply #46 on: August 18, 2012, 06:57:47 pm

Second - Yes, you're a typical western person, which thinks that the world ends with US, Canada, Britain and some central europe countries? You know what would be a better world? Baltics, Belarus, Ukraine, Poland, Georgia, Portugal , Spain and maybe Russia. Now that would be a perfect world, without cowardly western propaganda.
How would a world like that be better? Have you ever lived in a western country or visited one?

I don't know how you measure what countries are better, but if we were to base it on how satisfied people are with their lives, the West would probably win. Most Eastern Europeans have a really negative outlook on life, and being intolerant does not help. My opinion is limited though, as I have never visited any of the above listed countries apart from the Baltics and Portugal (no, not the Vilnius Portugal :razz:).

And what would they accomplish with gay parade? Pure waste of money, space and time...
Their money, their time. Not up to you how they spend it.

Your main language is English yet what you just posted is ununderstandable gibberish..
Also, how does the fact that you have a gay / lesbian town (or something like that?) note America's victory in the cold war? :trust:
What he wrote is easily understandable, if you want to, that is. One could argue that what you wrote is not understandable either, as the word "ununderstandable" does not exist, but somehow everyone understands what you mean...

I would have thrown a brick at him.

If there wasn't any police nearby that is.
I am not surprised.

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Reply #47 on: August 18, 2012, 07:03:43 pm
How would a world like that be better? Have you ever lived in a western country or visited one?

I don't know how you measure what countries are better, but if we were to base it on how satisfied people are with their lives, the West would probably win. Most Eastern Europeans have a really negative outlook on life, and being intolerant does not help. My opinion is limited though, as I have never visited any of the above listed countries apart from the Baltics and Portugal (no, not the Vilnius Portugal :razz:).
I live in a western country and I know how the conditions are in the Eastern European countries.
The working conditions in Eastern Europe are pretty bad, but Western Europe is collapsing aswell.
Now there may be more jobs in Western Europe, but people live way better being surrounded by nature and more factors in the Eastern European countries. Less stress. I'm moving as soon as I finish my school here.

I am not surprised.
Explain.



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Reply #48 on: August 18, 2012, 07:18:48 pm
I live in a western country and I know how the conditions are in the Eastern European countries.
The working conditions in Eastern Europe are pretty bad, but Western Europe is collapsing aswell.
Now there may be more jobs in Western Europe, but people live way better being surrounded by nature and more factors in the Eastern European countries. Less stress. I'm moving as soon as I finish my school here.
I am not talking about work conditions or jobs. To me, a happy life means being surrounded by happy people, not the intolerance and constant negativity that is still plaguing the Baltics and most ex-soviet union countries.

Explain.
Intolerance is linked to intelligence, as is violence. Therefore, it is not surprising if someone that is intolerant says they would resort to violence to express their homophobia...

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Reply #49 on: August 18, 2012, 07:22:48 pm
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Cancel all sport competition cause gays cant parade! You argument is just stupid and you didn't answered on my question as you are supporting parade... If you can't answer don't write nonsense...
I guessed that you would reply with that Yoske.. You obviously have not idea how the Olympics has worsened Britain's economic crisis. Secondly I said I consider the Olympics a "Pure waste of money, space and time" I made no reference it should be cancelled. What I actually referred to was the parades etc. after the events where things get out of hand. 

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Gay parades are not simply any other affair, as they are rampant and public expressions of sexuality.
I can agree with you that they are expressions of sexuality however they are not always "rampant" it might be different in countries where homosexuality is not as accepted as say the United Kingdom, this would be because said homosexuals are rarely allowed to be public about being gay, in some countries people would be shot for so much as saying they are gay. Due to this some people are overwhelmed by it all and go a bit mad, do I agree with this? no I believe they should be dealt with accordingly by the authorities same as it would be in sports gathering etc.



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Reply #50 on: August 18, 2012, 07:27:58 pm
homophobia...

It goes ahead of homosexuality or homophobia in such a case, though. Rather than homophobia, I'd rather see it as concern for public disturbance. If they could do these gay parades in some gay park, gay nightclub or their own houses it would be all right, but you can't deny you are disturbing the peace if you gather a bunch of homos in a park and put out extremely loud music, speak on megaphone to a minority between buildings in which there is a majority that doesn't have anything to do with being gay, bi, or whatever.

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Reply #51 on: August 18, 2012, 07:31:53 pm
I am not talking about work conditions or jobs. To me, a happy life means being surrounded by happy people, not the intolerance and constant negativity that is still plaguing the Baltics and most ex-soviet union countries.
Then you just confirmed that you were wrong.
Living conditions in Eastern Europe (happy people, environment) are better than in Western Europe.

Intolerance is linked to intelligence, as is violence. Therefore, it is not surprising if someone that is intolerant says they would resort to violence to express their homophobia...
So if a couple of homeless people entered your home, you would not request them to leave?



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Reply #52 on: August 18, 2012, 07:39:34 pm
I am not talking about work conditions or jobs. To me, a happy life means being surrounded by happy people, not the intolerance and constant negativity that is still plaguing the Baltics and most ex-soviet union countries.
Intolerance is linked to intelligence, as is violence. Therefore, it is not surprising if someone that is intolerant says they would resort to violence to express their homophobia...
Having more comparative material I can say at least Russians do not have a negative outlook.
It depends on the definition of being happy. In many Western countries being happy involves having a job that stresses you 10 hours of the active 18, and potting as much money as possible for when you die.
You live to work.
In Russia, you work to live. You do not have to watch your words in case someone decides it is the latest discrimination, nor do you have to hide who you like or do not like.

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Reply #53 on: August 18, 2012, 07:54:12 pm
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Happiest countries in the world:

1. Denmark
2. Norway
3. Netherlands
4. Switzerland
5. Austria
6. Israel
7. Finland
8. Australia
9. Canada
10. Sweden

http://247wallst.com/2012/05/22/the-happiest-countries-in-the-world-2/
All Western countries. While someone said that Baltics are the better countries as an example. Really? Lets check highest suicide rates top 10

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1.   Lithuania
2.   Russia
3.   Belarus
4.   Latvia
5.   Estonia
6.   Hungary
7.   Slovenia
8.   Ukraine
9.   Kazakhstan
10.   Finland

http://www.aneki.com/suicide.html
   
Whoa, mainly ex-soviet states and communistic countries of the cold war era. Finland is the wieridest country though, as is one of the most happiest and suicide-frenzy.

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Reply #54 on: August 18, 2012, 08:01:17 pm
All Western countries. While someone said that Baltics are the better countries as an example. Really? Lithuania has the highest suicide rate in the world. There's you bunch of happy campers.
It depends on how you define happiness. The Netherlands is high on the list, however if you read the daily comments of people you wonder how bad the rest of the world must feel. :lol:

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Reply #55 on: August 18, 2012, 08:11:25 pm
the danish primer minister walked with the gay parade that was in copenhagen today after what i've heard so yeah :P

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Reply #56 on: August 18, 2012, 08:18:42 pm
Then you just confirmed that you were wrong.
Living conditions in Eastern Europe (happy people, environment) are better than in Western Europe.
In your opinion. From my experience of living on both sides for at least a few years, western people are much happier.

So if a couple of homeless people entered your home, you would not request them to leave?
They would be breaking and entering, so yes, I would, however it would not be based on their social status or anything else, but purely based on the fact that they are intruders. No difference if it was a couple of homeless people or Donald Trump and Bill Gates.

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Reply #57 on: August 18, 2012, 08:25:25 pm
I'm living in Lithuania, which is central/eastern europe ,and i cant complain at all....

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Reply #58 on: August 18, 2012, 08:32:06 pm
Man baltics and Latvia is involved so much into this argument,I feel famous.  :lol:

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Reply #59 on: August 18, 2012, 08:33:37 pm
In your opinion. From my experience of living on both sides for at least a few years, western people are much happier.
They would be breaking and entering, so yes, I would, however it would not be based on their social status or anything else, but purely based on the fact that they are intruders. No difference if it was a couple of homeless people or Donald Trump and Bill Gates.
In which country did you live? Besides UK.



 


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