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Reply #75 on: August 18, 2012, 10:12:31 am
The police would not give a shit unless something of profit would be hacked / DDos'd like a business company. Maybe their ISP will block them but that's all that's going to happen really.

As for those who choose to hack or DDos, they are just thinking they are having fun and excitement ruining other's gameplay as if it would be their real life.
This, but not even the ISP would give a shit. I doubt the ISP would investigate a kid DDoSing a gaming community.

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Reply #76 on: August 18, 2012, 10:15:29 am
You'll have to expand to a degree for the technically illiterate!  :D

Is the Data Center a plug-in that is installed on the server? What are it's inputs (what feeds into it), outputs (what feeds out of it) and purpose (what is it responsible for)

Is it a external 3rd party software / hardware?
The Data Center is the physical place where a server is located. It is a location that is like a warehouse, only filled with computers. Our Data Center has a protection against power failure (generators like in a hostpital) and a direct connection to an internet backbone (places where traffic is divided)
Apart from technicians, nobody ever goes there.

And you are failing to keep the server up. :redface:
The server was up during all attacks. Unable to be reached, but up.
Explain how you would send police to someone sitting behind a botnet and a few proxies. Lets say 500 bots, all different IPs and countries. Do you think the local police would first track down those IPs, then from one computer to the proxy/VPN, then contact the owner of the proxy/vpn, then finally reach the IP of the guy doing it, before proceeding to the country he lives in and once again, contact his ISP, to bust a 15 year old kid DDoSing a gaming community? Wont happen.
Do you think the local police would not get a 15 year old kid because he stole something from a shop?
Do you think the local police would not get a 15 year old kid because he vandalized a car ?
Then why do you think that commiting a crime on internet (and disrupting of services is an official cybercrime) would not get any reaction?
It is the obligation of the police to act against crime, and if they forsake this obligation they should be investigated them selves.
This, but not even the ISP would give a shit. I doubt the ISP would investigate a kid DDoSing a gaming community.
An ISP that does not react is legally facilitating crime, and could be shut down. So they do care.

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Reply #77 on: August 18, 2012, 10:23:03 am
A small not about the exchange between Kirgiz and Robbs / others.

Kirgiz is not the butthurt kid, else he would not be able to post now.
He was trying to tell people to calm down and not get worked up over this.
The more people are panicking, the more happy the person who attacks is.
So his intentions were good, just his delivery lacked.

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Reply #78 on: August 18, 2012, 10:58:04 am
Do you think the local police would not get a 15 year old kid because he stole something from a shop?
Do you think the local police would not get a 15 year old kid because he vandalized a car ?
Then why do you think that commiting a crime on internet (and disrupting of services is an official cybercrime) would not get any reaction?
It is the obligation of the police to act against crime, and if they forsake this obligation they should be investigated them selves.An ISP that does not react is legally facilitating crime, and could be shut down. So they do care.
The local police would get a 15 year old kid for stealing, since he was caught instantly or by cameras, he cant deny it.
They would get him if they caught him vandalizing a car.
The local police wont start to investigate someone DDoSing a community like this. If it was something bigger, they would care. And if they keep the server shut down for 10 seconds? 10 minutes? That wouldnt matter to much. But if it goes up to a day or more, they would most likely do something. The police has more important things to do than busting 15 year olds DDoSing a server for a few minutes.

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Reply #79 on: August 18, 2012, 11:21:05 am
Jack it's not about how long or on who crime was committed. They do not decide when ever they act against the crime or not,as Gandalf said it's they obligation to handle the crime as an police enforcement.And without questioning they do,as cyber attack with ddos on any community is a crime,and crime is being handled by Police .  :cop:

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Reply #80 on: August 18, 2012, 11:42:10 am
Jack it's not about how long or on who crime was committed. They do not decide when ever they act against the crime or not,as Gandalf said it's they obligation to handle the crime as an police enforcement.And without questioning they do,as cyber attack with ddos on any community is a crime,and crime is being handled by Police .  :cop:
There is a huge difference if you DDoS a gaming community for 10 minutes and the website which the state owns for a week.

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Reply #81 on: August 18, 2012, 12:12:58 pm
There is a huge difference if you DDoS a gaming community for 10 minutes and the website which the state owns for a week.
The law does not make any difference. A judge might.

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Reply #82 on: August 18, 2012, 02:00:00 pm
The law does not make any difference. A judge might.
True that, but based on how serious it is. A judge wouldnt put someone in prison for DDoSing Argonath, but compared to a big website, such as E-Bay or anything owned by the government, which is important would make a differance. Of course, they would have to pass the nti ddos system, which is possible.

Im just saying, they wouldnt waste 50 hours of work to find someone who DDoSed Argo, compared go bigger and more important websites, usually owned by government, such as online banks, etc.

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Reply #83 on: August 18, 2012, 03:39:26 pm
Do you think the local police would not get a 15 year old kid because he stole something from a shop?
Depends on what he stole, but almost sure they wont.
Do you think the local police would not get a 15 year old kid because he vandalized a car ?
Did many times, so no.
Then why do you think that commiting a crime on internet (and disrupting of services is an official cybercrime) would not get any reaction?
Depends whats dealing, like something dangerous like porno shit and other. Do you really think with so many shit important they will be going to catch a ''hacker'' (if I can say this) just because hes fucking a game server/community? Get your facts straight.
So they do care.
Or not  ;)



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Reply #84 on: August 18, 2012, 03:41:46 pm
Explain how you would send police to someone sitting behind a botnet and a few proxies. Lets say 500 bots, all different IPs and countries. Do you think the local police would first track down those IPs, then from one computer to the proxy/VPN, then contact the owner of the proxy/vpn, then finally reach the IP of the guy doing it, before proceeding to the country he lives in and once again, contact his ISP, to bust a 15 year old kid DDoSing a gaming community? Wont happen.
This, and sure, it is the same, it's a crime. But the difference about ddos and stealing is someone can point at a guy and say "it's that guy" or if cameras caught the guy. But it's harder to find a guy behind shitload of ips. But sure, if you got proofs and know who it is, of course the police won't give a shit to arrest a kid who is ddosing.



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Reply #85 on: August 18, 2012, 03:51:41 pm
Maybe not in Portugal, or your specific area in Portugal, but mostly everywhere else they would.



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Reply #86 on: August 18, 2012, 03:54:29 pm
Guys, if it stops, it stops, I don't really think Gandalf or anyone else is going to waste their time with this child...



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Reply #87 on: August 18, 2012, 03:56:04 pm
Maybe not in Portugal, or your specific area in Portugal, but mostly everywhere else they would.
Sure, depends on which country. Just said my example.



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Reply #88 on: August 18, 2012, 04:50:07 pm
True that, but based on how serious it is. A judge wouldnt put someone in prison for DDoSing Argonath, but compared to a big website, such as E-Bay or anything owned by the government, which is important would make a differance. Of course, they would have to pass the nti ddos system, which is possible.

Im just saying, they wouldnt waste 50 hours of work to find someone who DDoSed Argo, compared go bigger and more important websites, usually owned by government, such as online banks, etc.
I think you should not bet on that. We have experience of the contrary. ;)

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Reply #89 on: August 19, 2012, 03:17:02 am
the solution is easy.

Give Frank Hawk a lot of combat shotgun ammo, point him the exact location of the hacker and poof, problem solved.

Or just /su him for evading and tell the freecops to chase the orange dot.

This is a serious situation, and whoever did this should be prosecuted.

I already see the headlines: Kid arrested for DDos'ing a GTA SA:MP server.



 


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