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The thing why our gameplay sometimes is ruined

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Reply #30 on: August 23, 2012, 01:12:52 pm
The security was criminal security.
It wasn't official security obeying the law.
That is not security.

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Reply #31 on: August 23, 2012, 02:05:24 pm
About 5min after the ban I witnessed 2 cops TAB abuse off of Jizzy's roof, I /reported and nothing was done about it, I even had a admin say "I'm only responding to your report cause I have a crush on you.".... This I find to be outrageous and inappropriate. 

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Reply #32 on: August 23, 2012, 02:17:50 pm
That is not security.
Guys which security you're talking about ? I am defending my family members, we were together all time, then cops decided to rush at their own risk and started attacking Enzo GVARDIA (not customer) and I have followed the RON quote. Why always you guys keep defending each other, for once have a balls and admit it, take a example from Cofiliano. Example, yesterday was spawned 2000 meters from Jizzy then got punished by Matrix for tab abuse, after that Gimli told me to ask for explaination from him, and he started lying how I jump from Jizzy... Gandalf make account, RP as criminal more than 2 months whenever you have time, you'll feel it. Also read Nicki post again, she explained a lot.



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Reply #33 on: August 23, 2012, 02:26:32 pm
Gvardias were security on "event", Enzo was suspected for like 10 mins ago before cops came I killed Chris and this is what happend.
Guys which security you're talking about ?
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Reply #34 on: August 23, 2012, 02:33:36 pm
I killed cops as MOBSTER, not as SECURITY. Let me explain. If someone customer got attacked by cops I shouldn't do anything just ask the suspect to leave since we do not want to have any fire inside. But I WAS FORCED to use the fire towards Chris, Enzo GVARDIA was dying not some customer. Get it, cops has to prepare if they enter and try to do some bullshit, it's their own risk.



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Reply #35 on: August 23, 2012, 02:37:54 pm
Security should keep the targets that may harm the party, outside. Like suspects. Like I said, I entered and told the suspects to leave, which they didn't... and the birthday party turned TDM event 20 minutes later. Next time we know: Breach, kill suspects and leave.

"Preso por ter cão, preso por não ter." is a Portuguese saying, that is roughly translated in: If we act in one way, we get complains, if we do it the other way around, we also get complains.

Cops are always the bad guys that ruin RP.

@Toto If you switch roles from a second to the other what's your point? How should we deal with you? If we suspected you for assault/aid would it be wrong because you're a security and mobster at the same time!?



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Reply #36 on: August 23, 2012, 02:43:46 pm
I killed cops as MOBSTER, not as SECURITY. Let me explain. If someone customer got attacked by cops I shouldn't do anything just ask the suspect to leave since we do not want to have any fire inside. But I WAS FORCED to use the fire towards Chris, Enzo GVARDIA was dying not some customer. Get it, cops has to prepare if they enter and try to do some bullshit, it's their own risk.
You are SECURITY for the party as you admitted. I have already explained how SECURITY should handle things in case they kill someone in line of their work.
To switch in to MOBSTER mode because a SECURITY is a suspect is DM.
You were luck at the time I had to log off, as a 30 minute tempban is a VERY low punishment for a reguar that willingly participates in a DM fest.

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Reply #37 on: August 23, 2012, 02:53:47 pm
Why... I mean, now Gvardia is a criminal organisation, and the security was from Gvardia. They own the club, and if they dont want any cops in - thats their call. Now if cops decide to enter their property and refuse to leave, i would order my henchmen to do the same thing - kill them.

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Reply #38 on: August 23, 2012, 02:59:30 pm
Cops and Admins are protected on this server. Took FBI armour, he ran away with his FBI Rancher, after 5 seconds coming back with full armour, cop system on argonath. No more discussion, sorry for wasting your time, lock this topic please.
Why... I mean, now Gvardia is a criminal organisation, and the security was from Gvardia. They own the club, and if they dont want any cops in - thats their call. Now if cops decide to enter their property and refuse to leave, i would order my henchmen to do the same thing - kill them.
It's useless to explain.



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Reply #39 on: August 23, 2012, 03:00:29 pm
My gameplay never gets ruined. Speak for yourself.



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Reply #40 on: August 23, 2012, 03:00:50 pm
How should we deal with you?
Like cops on VC:MP do. /enter jizzy's with NO weapon drawn, preferably no armor too. eventually if you don't trust the suspects do /s don't shoot I'm not here to attack < ctrl+c, spam that when interior loads


Approach the guy who seems to own the place. /l I'm really sorry for interrupting your....party, but I have arrest warrants for <names of suspects here> I have received information that they might be somewhere here around, so could you please point me to their direction and I'll be sure you will be rewarded?

now they will prolly attempt to kidnap you, if they do, you have a good chance to suspect everyone involved, and then the cops can rambo in without anyone getting banned for dm if they shoot back

don't expect to enter property, no matter what it is, which is swarmed by a criminal group (gvardia in that case) and expect them to let you shoot the suspects without doing anything. If you'd see officer on a highway in a shootout with another suspect, would you just drive past him ignoring it? I don't think so.



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Reply #41 on: August 23, 2012, 03:13:12 pm
We tried that, but it's impossible since we /enter we are blasted by 30 guns.



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Reply #42 on: August 23, 2012, 03:27:13 pm
We tried that, but it's impossible since we /enter we are blasted by 30 guns.

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Reply #43 on: August 23, 2012, 03:36:08 pm
We tried that, but it's impossible since we /enter we are blasted by 30 guns.
Well, so you would blast criminals if they'd /exit wouldn't you...
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Reply #44 on: August 23, 2012, 03:43:27 pm
Cops and Admins are protected on this server. Took FBI armour, he ran away with his FBI Rancher, after 5 seconds coming back with full armour, cop system on argonath. No more discussion, sorry for wasting your time, lock this topic please.It's useless to explain.
All players who do not DM are protected here.
Those who break rules are banned. Including you.

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