Please add BSF

[Heller]

Please add BSF or something similar so people can do there bizz with help BSF funds.

As we can that many people want to open there their own bizz but they don't have enough money for opening a bizz or for employee salaries.

I am requesting to provoid us some BSF support fund so people can have their bizz[Private Rp job] in success.

[Hybird]

BSF what means  :trust:

[Talya_taya]

Business Support Funding I think or sth like that..

[Huntsman]

BSF already exists, or was it removed?

[Kerbe]

Business Support Fund, yeah. But as long as you can't own bizz where people can buy something for real (Such as owning an ammu/restaurant or what so ever), I find it kinda useless.

[Heller]

Business Support Fund, yeah. But as long as you can't own bizz where people can buy something for real (Such as owning an ammu/restaurant or what so ever), I find it kinda useless.

I don't think so cuss many people are doing there bizz[BSF] without owning any kind of bizz in game, We can set a RP job such as tranceport corporation or something similar. And probably there is no need of owning a bizz or something similar.

[Kerbe]

Also, I don't think IV:MP Argonath is meant to be SA:MP's younger brother. How would BSF work here?

[Leroy_Kolta]

To have BSF right now on IVMP would just be outragous. Maybe in a year or two I might see it come into view. But as for right now. No.

[EenBeeFour]

Highly against this, it's very pointless and can be abused to gain free money.

[Dillon]

I understand I am bringing this topic back from the dead, but I must explain this eventually somewhere. This is not the first time BSF has asked about IV:MP, we actually reached out towards IV:MP in the past to DellStorm and what was concluded was that it wasn't the goal of the server to begin such an operation because the focus at that time was not in any way money, at that time they wanted players to focus more on RP than making money all the time, and we had to respect that.

BSF's design has failed SA:MP the safeguards that were supposed to stop BSF from over inflating the economy had not been taken and by the time people started to notice it was far to late the damage had already been done. Though we believe a healthy economy is a nice thing to have with many outlets to make money in IV:MP's case I do not believe the traditional BSF way is the right way to take anything. The way that would be best for IV:MP because it still has many possibilities is to allow the RP to gain on itself certain 'official' businesses receive a low capped amount of money and from that they can do the necessary business this combined with carefully monitoring the money is one of the many ways to go. of course BSF still can be implemented if requested under a specific set of rules, that is not what we recommend. IV:MP has many outlets to RP making money and all should be considered first. The only reason I can actually see BSF coming into IV:MP is to fix a locked economy where no money is moving at all. Combined with monitoring inflation properly and adjusting the amounts that are stimulated into the economy to better recognize the inflation is a good way to go, thus deflation and inflation can be better controlled. There are many ways to go about implementing a stable economy without the help of BSF and it is up to the HQ to find which method that will work the best in IV:MP's unique case. 

Vice Director of BSF,
Dillon Collin

[ramirogarza]

Aso you say, the point of the server is generate the RP and not to care about the money.. However, we first need to create the server, and get players to this to work.

[Traser]

Aso you say, the point of the server is generate the RP and not to care about the money.. However, we first need to create the server, and get players to this to work.

There should be ways for the player to make money yes, but the main goal will always be RP, if you mix it up and only play for money, something is wrong..

[Dillon]

It appears my summarizing may have caused the problem Ramiro the exact quote took me a while to find via pm but here it is, and this should sum up your answer.

For IV:MP we're trying to limit the necessity of money and instead focus on creative ways of rewarding players through their own actions.

[Leroy_Kolta]

So how the heck can BSF help if all they do is give out money to people?
That's the exact opposite of what we(as a community) want in IV:MP.
That's what differs us from any other server.
We like to roleplay and have fun, not to go in game just to make a few bucks here and there.

Keep in mind, the server is still at a stage where it is still developing - it has several years to make it what SA:MP is; to where people only care about money.
It's not worth it at the moment to integrate BSF into IV:MP.

I still keep to my stance and say no to BSF.

[Batta]

You have to consider the fundamental difference between SA:MP and IV:MP. I'm talking about people. Here we just do not care about getting tons of cash. Not only because we can't do much with it, but mainly because we still have the family feeling that makes it simply unnecessary, superfluous. We do not need money.

This system is extremely easy to abuse and got SA:MP to become what it is now. Hell, I'd never want IV:MP to be like that! That's the day that I leave