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[SA:MP] Forcing & NOT Forcing RP

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on: August 29, 2012, 08:44:34 am
One of the worst understood rules is the 'forcing roleplay'.  And people are misusing it regularly.

1. When you can not force roleplay?
The forced roleplay came from questions about certain situations. For instance you are suspected and you wish to be jailed so you can return to your family roleplay. But the cops want to process you in to a long investigation and refuse to jail you without it.
In such a situation, they are forcing you in to a roleplay where you wish another option. As you are suspected, you can not opt to kill yourself (suiciding as suspect), fight (fighting after surrender), and have to wait for a cop to be so kind to jail you. So you are forced in to a situation where you have no options. This is not allowed, as the only way you can stop this is by breaking rules.

2. When you can not force NOT to roleplay?
- You are a cop and every vehicle you believe is speeding you /su: You are not roleplaying at all, you are just typing a command that forces players in to being suspect. This is not roleplay, but could even be seen as misuse of commands and lead to copban for invalid suspections. If you are going to do a speed check, pull over people and try to write them a ticket before using the /su command.
- You are getting robbed. Often people try to get out of a robbery by telling they do to want to roleplay. Well here is the news: If you do not want to roleplay, log off. A robber is not supposed to know if you have anything on you, so if you give him any amount he should leave you and move on. If he kills you without you having giving him a reason, its DM which eventually will get him punished. Find a good reason not to give him anything and the robber may just move on anyway.

When you enter the server, you are there to roleplay, and that means with everyone you encounter. In some situations you can not be forced, and certainly people can not force you to do only what they want. But you can never refuse to interact with others in a respectful way.

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Reply #1 on: August 29, 2012, 08:53:05 am
When you enter the server, you are there to roleplay, and that means with everyone you encounter.
Preach it!



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Reply #2 on: August 29, 2012, 09:01:36 am
Why are suspects not allowed to commit suicide?



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Reply #3 on: August 29, 2012, 09:03:19 am
Why are suspects not allowed to commit suicide?
Why are you trying to play dumb?

You know you're wrong if you hide behind your invisible powers you never had in real life. Those who watch me will entirely understand.

Why do I do what I do? Because I know you won't stand someone opposing you. And because you know you can't prove me I'm wrong.


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Reply #4 on: August 29, 2012, 09:05:16 am
Why are suspects not allowed to commit suicide?
To avoid that suspects are only taking their 'fun' of being chased and killing cops, then when they have no alternative commit suicide and start provcation about how they were never caught.

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Reply #5 on: August 29, 2012, 10:07:47 am
When you enter the server, you are there to roleplay, and that means with everyone you encounter.
So can we report whoever refuses to role play? By that I mean is the refusal to role play punishable?



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Reply #6 on: August 29, 2012, 10:20:11 am
So can we report whoever refuses to role play? By that I mean is the refusal to role play punishable?
Or you move on and leave the person alone who don't wish to roleplay. He will soon notice he will not accomplish anything positive.



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Reply #7 on: August 29, 2012, 10:26:23 am
Or you move on and leave the person alone who don't wish to roleplay. He will soon notice he will not accomplish anything positive.
But in his cocky state-of-mind he would think he won... Then he'd just do it again and again...



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Reply #8 on: August 29, 2012, 10:29:06 am
But in his cocky state-of-mind he would think he won... Then he'd just do it again and again...
And people would ignore him again and again. :)
Or, you introduce and teach how he could approach and make the roleplay funny and entairtaining. Help eachother and have fun instead of call eachother non-rper and noob and what else you say these days.



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Reply #9 on: August 29, 2012, 12:01:09 pm
So if I am trying to rob someone, but he ignores me and tries to escape by bunny hopping, dashing everywhere, can i just shoot him to death?



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Reply #10 on: August 29, 2012, 12:08:43 pm
So if I am trying to rob someone, but he ignores me and tries to escape by bunny hopping, dashing everywhere, can i just shoot him to death?
If someone you are robbing ignores you totally, AFTER you've given a fair warning, then be my guest and blast their brains all over the street...


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Reply #11 on: August 29, 2012, 01:32:55 pm
This should be explaned to a several admins since I've got kicked many times after I have tried to commit a RolePlay robbery. If the robbed player acts a superman and pulls out his M4 from the ass with his tied hands, in someone's eyes, it's not DM. After making a report for DMing, the most common answer is: "Forcing RP is not allowed, you're a veteran here and you should know it". Well, you are a ficking admin and you should know something more than basic rules.



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Reply #12 on: August 29, 2012, 01:57:08 pm
- You are getting robbed. Often people try to get out of a robbery by telling they do to want to roleplay. Well here is the news: If you do not want to roleplay, log off. A robber is not supposed to know if you have anything on you, so if you give him any amount he should leave you and move on. If he kills you without you having giving him a reason, its DM which eventually will get him punished. Find a good reason not to give him anything and the robber may just move on anyway.

When you enter the server, you are there to roleplay, and that means with everyone you encounter. In some situations you can not be forced, and certainly people can not force you to do only what they want. But you can never refuse to interact with others in a respectful way.
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Reply #13 on: August 29, 2012, 02:15:07 pm
This should be explaned to a several admins since I've got kicked many times after I have tried to commit a RolePlay robbery. If the robbed player acts a superman and pulls out his M4 from the ass with his tied hands, in someone's eyes, it's not DM. After making a report for DMing, the most common answer is: "Forcing RP is not allowed, you're a veteran here and you should know it". Well, you are a ficking admin and you should know something more than basic rules.
And you should know that nobody who makes a robbery will tie his victims hands.

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Reply #14 on: August 29, 2012, 02:26:18 pm

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