[SA:MP] Forcing & NOT Forcing RP

[Kirgiz]

Gandalf didn't leave this community to his son (not yet anyway ), so yours is a bad example.

Now that's just nitpicking, ain't it? 

[Ragdoll]

Now that's just nitpicking, ain't it? 

Maybe.

[Jubin]

- You are getting robbed. Often people try to get out of a robbery by telling they do to want to roleplay. Well here is the news: If you do not want to roleplay, log off. A robber is not supposed to know if you have anything on you, so if you give him any amount he should leave you and move on. If he kills you without you having giving him a reason, its DM which eventually will get him punished. Find a good reason not to give him anything and the robber may just move on anyway.

When you enter the server, you are there to roleplay, and that means with everyone you encounter. In some situations you can not be forced, and certainly people can not force you to do only what they want. But you can never refuse to interact with others in a respectful way.

So, you're telling me that, when I am showing a new player around the server, teaching him/her the commands etc and then when a group of robbers come to rob me I should just leave the teaching aspect to that? Even worse when they come to kidnap me I should just go and f**k off with the robbers? Also admin should not answer the reports but rather roleplay with the robbers/kidnappers?

Also as this is a big community there are some people that do not get along with each other and when you got strict rule like this. You might get a situation where victim doesn't like robbers as players so really don't want to roleplay with them, but he will be rulebreaking because he just doesn't want to roleplay with those particular robbers. Situation gets even worse when the robbers come back in 15 minutes. Again victim is rulebreaking.

[Lincoln.]

I'm sorry Lincoln but this time I have to disagree with you.
You're telling Gandalf he's doing his work wrong, that's like telling a king how to rule his country which is wrong in itself already..

I never said that he's doing his work wrong, the amount of efforts he puts in this community is more than anyone could ever put, but he cannot see everything, I'm just telling him something we (players) notice to be a problem.
I kinda feel bad now for wasting his time on this because it's not that much necessary, but I hope he won't mind.

Gandalf, don't get me wrong, I appreciate all the hard work you're doing to keep this (the community) organized.
Honestly, I don't believe that anyone who's playing here more than 6 months could hate this server, besides (I won't name him, but you know about who I am talking about).


Cheers.

[Gandalf]

So, you're telling me that, when I am showing a new player around the server, teaching him/her the commands etc and then when a group of robbers come to rob me I should just leave the teaching aspect to that? Even worse when they come to kidnap me I should just go and f**k off with the robbers? Also admin should not answer the reports but rather roleplay with the robbers/kidnappers?

Also as this is a big community there are some people that do not get along with each other and when you got strict rule like this. You might get a situation where victim doesn't like robbers as players so really don't want to roleplay with them, but he will be rulebreaking because he just doesn't want to roleplay with those particular robbers. Situation gets even worse when the robbers come back in 15 minutes. Again victim is rulebreaking.

If you are teaching someone, it would be good if you do not teach them to ignore others.
Once the robbers move on, you can continue.

As for people not liking each other, the map is big enough not to meet.

[Exterminator]

I really hate badmouthing, but im still writing this. I hate it when SAPD do the job, and the ARPD Officers get the blame.

Today thrice i was forced into a roleplay by SAPD officers(who just want to make big patrol reports...) and i couldnt do anything, and not a single time was it an ARPD..If you ever report them then they just get a warning and then they continue with the same thing. I hate that..

[Jubin]

If you are teaching someone, it would be good if you do not teach them to ignore others.
Once the robbers move on, you can continue.

As for people not liking each other, the map is big enough not to meet.

I do teach them that interact with other people even if it is to say that he has something else going on right now. Also I find it not a good thing that I have to stop teaching a new player for the time that someone is going to rob me.

Yes not map is big but the nemesis can find each other and hence fore still my described situation is not solved at all.

As far as I am concerned any action I did not bring on with my own actions I should be able to walk away.

[Gandalf]

I do teach them that interact with other people even if it is to say that he has something else going on right now. Also I find it not a good thing that I have to stop teaching a new player for the time that someone is going to rob me.

Yes not map is big but the nemesis can find each other and hence fore still my described situation is not solved at all.

As far as I am concerned any action I did not bring on with my own actions I should be able to walk away.

If people find each other just to annoy or hurt each other, admins can interfere.
The more peopl will interact, the easier it will be to walk away without getting a bullet in your back.

[Jubin]

If people find each other just to annoy or hurt each other, admins can interfere.
The more peopl will interact, the easier it will be to walk away without getting a bullet in your back.

Yes exactly, the more people will interact the easier it will be, but interacting doesn't equal to role playing. So all I want to know that for example, does teaching a new player to be a good community member excuse me from role playing with the robbers when I clearly say it to them or would that still be rulebreaking from my side?

[Orel]

Admins make mistakes as every other person does, they are not robots or something, so they can make mistakes..
And finally some good news, got me pissed off when I tried to rob a guy and he cries in /em "sorry no time rp"

[zater112]

To avoid that suspects are only taking their 'fun' of being chased and killing cops, then when they have no alternative commit suicide and start provcation about how they were never caught.

LOL - If you laugh that long, your heart may stop - Cutt3r(mega spam/random bad word edited)

[Caltson]

Admins make mistakes as every other person does, they are not robots or something, so they can make mistakes..
And finally some good news, got me pissed off when I tried to rob a guy and he cries in /em "sorry no time rp"

If the person has a decent reason for it  (busy with managing stuff, other situation, ...) then that's a correct way to handle the situation.
If the person simply didn't want to roleplay because he wasn't in the mood, he should've been going off reading a book.

LOL - If you laugh that long, your heart may stop - Cutt3r(mega spam/random bad word edited)

Instead of acting like someone who's finger didn't came from the 'O' button, explain why you even posted that except to cause offense.

[Davron]

One of the worst understood rules is the 'forcing roleplay'.  And people are misusing it regularly.

- You are a cop and every vehicle you believe is speeding you /su: You are not roleplaying at all, you are just typing a command that forces players in to being suspect. This is not roleplay, but could even be seen as misuse of commands and lead to copban for invalid suspections. If you are going to do a speed check, pull over people and try to write them a ticket before using the /su command.

Every time I enter the SA:MP server, random cop does this or if i pass a stop light, I hope now for this reason i wont be ignored

[Kirgiz]

Instead of acting like someone who's finger didn't came from the 'O' button, explain why you even posted that except to cause offense.

just to see whether someone is paying attention?

[Leon.]

Because Gandalf is a selfish dick head, sorry.

gonna get v&