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Reply #105 on: September 17, 2012, 02:49:53 pm
There is no such thing called "Education about how to live your life". School is a place where kids go there to learn about almost everything. Science, math, languages and social activities and so on. If you're talking about raising children then It's a whole different thing. How can poor people learn to behave and react in a civilized way If their parents didn't teach them to do so? As I'm still against those people who broke into the U.S embassy, but I still can't blame them directly. They didn't choose to live in the lowest level of the Egyptian society.
If their parents did not teach them, they are a problem.
However my question is this: Do people that live in the lowest level of the Egyptian society have computers and internet? If not, how have they seen this movie? If they have not seen the movie, how can they be so enraged towards America that they attack the Embassy?

And bt my compliments for your English, you have truly improved since you came here first.

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Reply #106 on: September 17, 2012, 03:22:12 pm
Do people that live in the lowest level of the Egyptian society have computers and internet?
The thing I've noticed about the society I'm part of.... is that rage spreads like a virus. If one person gets mad about something, so does his family, so do his neighbors, so do their neighbors, and so on. Internet or no internet, one's bound to know.
It's like that here in LB... it's most probably the same in Egypt.



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Reply #107 on: September 17, 2012, 03:30:18 pm
The thing I've noticed about the society I'm part of.... is that rage spreads like a virus. If one person gets mad about something, so does his family, so do his neighbors, so do their neighbors, and so on. Internet or no internet, one's bound to know.
It's like that here in LB... it's most probably the same in Egypt.

I am sure that is happening, but it also shows that there is actually no ground. Rage spreads because some person tells he saw a remark about something that someone posted, and as a result they riot.
It has nothing to do with education, or even religion. People are mad about their situation, and in the countries where the worst protests were (Egypt/Lybia/Afghanistan) the thing they raged against (America) had little to do with the movie or their religion.

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Reply #108 on: September 17, 2012, 03:34:28 pm
I am sure that is happening, but it also shows that there is actually no ground. Rage spreads because some person tells he saw a remark about something that someone posted, and as a result they riot.
It has nothing to do with education, or even religion. People are mad about their situation, and in the countries where the worst protests were (Egypt/Lybia/Afghanistan) the thing they raged against (America) had little to do with the movie or their religion.
I guess it's been building up. They just needed the slightest reason (whether rational or not) to riot.



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Reply #109 on: September 17, 2012, 03:37:27 pm
Question to ask, "Would christian people do the same if a muslim made such a movie?"

(Not choosing sides, I am no christian, neither muslim.)



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Reply #110 on: September 17, 2012, 04:17:05 pm
Yea, i doubt Muslims would make a movie...



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Reply #111 on: September 17, 2012, 04:24:11 pm
If their parents did not teach them, they are a problem.
However my question is this: Do people that live in the lowest level of the Egyptian society have computers and internet? If not, how have they seen this movie? If they have not seen the movie, how can they be so enraged towards America that they attack the Embassy?

And bt my compliments for your English, you have truly improved since you came here first.
Focus and reread my previous comments and you'll find out how did they become a problem. As for their access to the internet, It's not the only way to know about the movie. There are cheap internet cafes, TV channels and words get around really fast on the streets. Probably some people got paid to attack the U.S embassy and then the rest of the ignorant people followed their path.

I attended the beginning of the movie announcements, there were loads of Facebook pages and news websites advertising and describing how bad is the movie. The movie became more popular than 21 Jump street and other world wide movies in a few days. People started to ask questions about it, and that's how it became known in the Middle East. Rest of the world knew only about it due the U.S embassy attacks. If anyone with low IQ has concluded these events, he would defiantly tell you the whole thing was planned to ruin the Muslims reputation once again like they did in 9/11.

I am not really proud for improving my English because being able to speak this language isn't a must. Those people invaded my country and effected my culture.

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If I look at the posts that were removed I clearly saw some who actually seemed to support the violence.
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Post Merge: September 17, 2012, 04:33:10 pm
Question to ask, "Would christian people do the same if a muslim made such a movie?"

(Not choosing sides, I am no christian, neither muslim.)
Those Muslims who broke into the U.S embassies don't represent at least 1 percent of Muslims on the entire planet.

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Question to ask, "Would christian people do the same if a muslim made such a movie?"

(Not choosing sides, I am no christian, neither muslim.)
The only difference between Arabian Muslims and Christians is what we believe in. Why would we mock each other If we have different beliefs? You want to worship that sofa over there? Then go ahead nobody is going to stop you as long as you're a lawful person. It's just like someone who likes Pepsi and other person prefers Coca Cola. Would you attack him because of that reason? Of course not.


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Reply #112 on: September 17, 2012, 05:53:36 pm
The producer is an Egyptian Copt, the director seems to be a former D-movie director.
enraged towards America

My point - what the f**k is America guilty of exactly? What reasons killings, violence and vandalism?
It's like a Russian Commander somehow starting a coup with NATO forces, and then blaming NATO for the whole situation when it was clearly one man's fault. Such a stupid and uncanny situation calls for an equally stupid example.
I sense a scapegoat or just someone to blame and take frustration out.
From my point of view - the people doing this, and the people sitting getting offended over their believed deity need to get a slap around the f**king head and brought into reality. A religion is a belief. It's not fact that something exists, it's not proof - it's a person's belief. Thank f**k I'm an Atheist and don't have to go through with all this religious, in my view, utter shite.

Sound like a religious hating dick right now, but hey. I have to agree with this guy.

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Reply #113 on: September 17, 2012, 06:07:31 pm
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Thank f**k I'm an Atheist and don't have to go through with all this religious, in my view, utter shite

So be it.



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Reply #114 on: September 17, 2012, 06:09:25 pm
PS. If you can't deal with a bit of criticism and people's views, don't bother reading or paying attention to them.

Wow! You have just criticized yourself.


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Reply #115 on: September 17, 2012, 06:16:45 pm
Its the same story as we have seen in the passed years.
One person, or a little group does something, and within 24 hours the whole country gets blamed for the mistake of this little group.

Same story as with 9/11. Few muslims fly a planes into the twin towers. But does that make all muslims evil? No.

Attacking the American embassy was completely useless. Killing the ambassador was served no good cause.
Infact, it will only cause more, and more, and more conflicts.




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Reply #116 on: September 17, 2012, 06:19:54 pm
If i dress up as a gangster and blow up the Empire state building, would South Africa get invaded?



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Reply #117 on: September 17, 2012, 06:21:59 pm
If i dress up as a gangster and blow up the Empire state building, would South Africa get invaded?
If it has resources. ;)



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Reply #118 on: September 17, 2012, 06:24:33 pm
If i dress up as a gangster and blow up the Empire state building, would South Africa get invaded?

Of course not. though if your act is claimed by a group like the Taliban, or any other terroristic group. Then you will have a big chance that the goverment of the United States will declare war to that group.
And if that group is active in one specific country, then you will have a big chance of an USM mission.



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Reply #119 on: September 17, 2012, 06:29:04 pm
Focus and reread my previous comments and you'll find out how did they become a problem. As for their access to the internet, It's not the only way to know about the movie. There are cheap internet cafes, TV channels and words get around really fast on the streets. Probably some people got paid to attack the U.S embassy and then the rest of the ignorant people followed their path.

I attended the beginning of the movie announcements, there were loads of Facebook pages and news websites advertising and describing how bad is the movie. The movie became more popular than 21 Jump street and other world wide movies in a few days. People started to ask questions about it, and that's how it became known in the Middle East. Rest of the world knew only about it due the U.S embassy attacks. If anyone with low IQ has concluded these events, he would defiantly tell you the whole thing was planned to ruin the Muslims reputation once again like they did in 9/11.
But did you ever watch the movie yourself? If you did, you would understand that if this is the best enemies of Islam can make then you have nothing to worry about...
I am not really proud for improving my English because being able to speak this language isn't a must. Those people invaded my country and effected my culture.
On the contrary, you are now able to communicate with people from many places in the world, combined by one language. While it is true the English once invaded Egypt, they were just one in a long line that started with the Romans...

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