[Unbanned]unban request [eaf]marcell

[Marcell]

Ingame Name: [EAF]Marcell
Ban Date: its quite obvious it was a few hours ago since I played today
reason: idk

[stormeus]

You were banned as Bohdi for deathmatching, suspect-hunting, killing surrendered suspects and killing jailed suspects.

This was escalated from a copban because you were already warned for it before and because you've been playing long enough to know that this is not acceptable. A new username does not allow you to break rules and troll. You will still be subject to the same rules as everyone else, and the same punishments as well.

[Marcell]

suspect-hunting, killing surrendered suspects and killing jailed suspects.

lol

give me a rundown on each situation of the rulebreaks if you can

[stormeus]

suspect-hunting

Running around suspecting anyone for basically farting.

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23:22 COMMAND Bodhi: s motherf**ker leave
23:22 COMMAND Bodhi: sus hck5 tresspassing VCPD station
23:23 COMMAND Bodhi: sur hck
23:23 COMMAND Bodhi: sur hck
23:23 COMMAND Hck5: sur
23:23 COMMAND Bodhi: jail hck


killing surrendered suspects

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23:38 COMMAND Bodhi: sus 2 urinating on PD roof
23:38 COMMAND Hck5: report bodhi deathmatching
23:38 Hck5: ./c sur
23:38 COMMAND Hck5: sur
23:38 Bodhi: ahahahah
23:38 DEATH Hck5 KILLED BY Bodhi (M4)
23:38 COMMAND Bodhi: loot


and killing jailed suspects.

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23:26 COMMAND Bodhi: jail hck
23:26 COMMAND Bodhi: jail hck
*** Pedro_Valverde has joined the server.
23:26 COMMAND Hck5: l suck it
23:26 COMMAND Bodhi: jail hck
23:26 COMMAND Bodhi: wanted
23:26 DEATH Hck5 KILLED BY Bodhi (M4)


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23:17 COMMAND Bodhi: sus hck5 resisting arrest
23:17 COMMAND Bodhi: sur hck5
23:17 COMMAND Hck5: sur
23:17 COMMAND Hck5: report Bohdi he suspected me for "tatoos" -.-
23:18 COMMAND Bodhi: l ok sir
23:18 COMMAND Bodhi: l now we go
23:18 COMMAND Hck5: l you know that this is a rule break right?
23:18 COMMAND Bodhi: l shut up motherf**ker
23:18 COMMAND [WS]PulseEffect: l STOP
23:18 COMMAND Bodhi: jail hck
23:18 COMMAND Hck5: l help me please
23:18 COMMAND Bodhi: l motherf**ker
23:18 COMMAND Bodhi: l u bothering me
23:18 COMMAND Bodhi: l ok fine
23:18 DEATH Hck5 KILLED BY Bodhi (Shotgun)


For some reason the logs also show you following around Klaus and Rapture while Klaus shoots some guy (I don't know the reason for it) while you loot him.

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23:04 Hck5: whoot
23:05 Hck5: is bodhi deathmatching?
23:05 COMMAND [EAF]Rapture: c just help me
23:05 [EAF]Rapture: yes
23:05 [EAF]Rapture: maybe
23:05 DEATH rajni KILLED BY [EAF]Klaus (Ingrams)
23:05 Bodhi: he abuse
23:05 Hck5: .....
23:05 Bodhi: to civilian
23:05 COMMAND Bodhi: loot


There's also the fact that you wired the profits from rulebreaking to your main account.

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23:40 COMMAND Bodhi: wire [EAF]Marcell 8805
23:40 COMMAND Bodhi: deposit all
23:40 COMMAND Bodhi: wire [EAF]Marcell 8805


All of this happened in the same day. In fact, it all happened in a 40 minute period in that same day.

[Marcell]

23:22   COMMAND Bodhi: s motherf**ker leave
23:22   COMMAND Bodhi: sus hck5 tresspassing VCPD station
23:23   COMMAND Bodhi: sur hck
23:23   COMMAND Bodhi: sur hck
23:23   COMMAND Hck5: sur
23:23   COMMAND Bodhi: jail hck

I was standing between the jail entrance, I said 'motherfucker leave' then I got punched in the face, I started spamming /c sur, Hck5 started running away, but due to his bad luck he ran right into a jail cell...

23:38   COMMAND Bodhi: sus 2 urinating on PD roof
23:38   COMMAND Hck5: report bodhi deathmatching
23:38    Hck5: ./c sur
23:38   COMMAND Hck5: sur
23:38    Bodhi: ahahahah
23:38   DEATH Hck5 KILLED BY Bodhi (M4)
23:38   COMMAND Bodhi: loot

hck5 roleplayed pissing on the PD roof earlier, he had a helicopter - I asked him to surrender but he thought running away would be a better solution so I just killed him instead, he died right after typing /c sur.

23:26   COMMAND Bodhi: jail hck
23:26   COMMAND Bodhi: jail hck
*** Pedro_Valverde has joined the server.
23:26   COMMAND Hck5: l suck it
23:26   COMMAND Bodhi: jail hck
23:26   COMMAND Bodhi: wanted
23:26   DEATH Hck5 KILLED BY Bodhi (M4)
hck5 did something like /me takes out his dick then /c l 'suck it', so I ran up to him and started punching him, while he had low HP he started running away while trying to punch me (but the run-punch is desynched) so I just killed him instead.

23:17   COMMAND Bodhi: sus hck5 resisting arrest
23:17   COMMAND Bodhi: sur hck5
23:17   COMMAND Hck5: sur
23:17   COMMAND Hck5: report Bohdi he suspected me for "tatoos" -.-
23:18   COMMAND Bodhi: l ok sir
23:18   COMMAND Bodhi: l now we go
23:18   COMMAND Hck5: l you know that this is a rule break right?
23:18   COMMAND Bodhi: l shut up motherf**ker
23:18   COMMAND [WS]PulseEffect: l STOP
23:18   COMMAND Bodhi: jail hck
23:18   COMMAND Hck5: l help me please
23:18   COMMAND Bodhi: l motherf**ker
23:18   COMMAND Bodhi: l u bothering me
23:18   COMMAND Bodhi: l ok fine
23:18   DEATH Hck5 KILLED BY Bodhi (Shotgun)
I wanted to take Hck5 to threathen him in the police station (using the biker skin as excuse in rp) he surrendered then Pulse started protecting him by not letting me talk to him, so I knocked down Pulse then shot Hck5 and he died.

23:04    Hck5: whoot
23:05    Hck5: is bodhi deathmatching?
23:05   COMMAND [EAF]Rapture: c just help me
23:05    [EAF]Rapture: yes
23:05    [EAF]Rapture: maybe
23:05   DEATH rajni KILLED BY [EAF]Klaus (Ingrams)
23:05    Bodhi: he abuse
23:05    Hck5: .....
23:05    Bodhi: to civilian
23:05   COMMAND Bodhi: loot
yeah I was ignoring any EAF criminals.

23:40   COMMAND Bodhi: wire [EAF]Marcell 8805
23:40   COMMAND Bodhi: deposit all
23:40   COMMAND Bodhi: wire [EAF]Marcell 8805
that's allowed I think.

[Klaus]

I was standing between the jail entrance, I said 'motherf**ker leave' then I got punched in the face, I started spamming /c sur, Hck5 started running away, but due to his bad luck he ran right into a jail cell...

Tresspassing the VCPD station seems like a valid reason to me, but the situation lacked roleplay from both sides of the party it seems.

hck5 roleplayed pissing on the PD roof earlier, he had a helicopter - I asked him to surrender but he thought running away would be a better solution so I just killed him instead, he died right after typing /c sur

Excusable, at least there was roleplay involved in this situation..

hck5 did something like /me takes out his dick then /c l 'suck it', so I ran up to him and started punching him, while he had low HP he started running away while trying to punch me (but the run-punch is desynched) so I just killed him instead.

Sounds like excessive use of force.

I wanted to take Hck5 to threathen him in the police station (using the biker skin as excuse in rp) he surrendered then Pulse started protecting him by not letting me talk to him, so I knocked down Pulse then shot Hck5 and he died.

Again the suspect reason seems legit from the logs, and I can see there was sufficient local chat which is good, but you have no real reason to shoot Hck5 in this situation.

yeah I was ignoring any EAF criminals

This isn't against the rules.

that's allowed I think.

Yes it is allowed.

[Gandalf]

No the language you used is not allowed and is inexcusable.

[Marcell]

No the language you used is not allowed and is inexcusable.

what are you referring to

[Klaus]

what are you referring to

An educated guess would be the "motherfucker" since thats the only 'swearword' you said in the logs.

[Marcell]

It's on /c l, not the main chat so I don't see any rulebreak on it. On Bodhi account I play(ed) as a unstable power-abusing cop, are corrupt cops meant to say 'Please sir step into the jail cell' instead of 'GET IN THAT CELL MOTHERFUCKER' ??? if we were to punish everyone for swearing/insulting in /c l /c s I'm guessing none of us would be playing here by now.

[Marcell]

ahem, bump

[Klaus]

ahem, bump

I'd like to hear what Stormeus has to say concerning your explanation of the logs, since he carried out the initial ban. From what I see there isn't enough there alone for a permanent ban so there has to be more to it.

[stormeus]

I'd like to hear what Stormeus has to say concerning your explanation of the logs, since he carried out the initial ban. From what I see there isn't enough there alone for a permanent ban so there has to be more to it.

Bodhi was already warned for deathmatching by you under "Bohdi" instead of Bodhi (which, yes, is the same account since Marcell wired money there too).

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Admin [EAF]Klaus has temporarily banned Bohdi. Reason: constant DM, Time: 01:38, Date: 20/07/2012

Again the suspect reason seems legit from the logs, and I can see there was sufficient local chat which is good, but you have no real reason to shoot Hck5 in this situation.

The suspect reason there is also sketchy if you look at the full logs.

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23:15 COMMAND Hck5: report Bodhi ... false suspect rules break . more rules break
23:15 Hck5: Bodhi : first
23:16 Hck5: you need to rolepaly more than 1 text... after u suspected me
*** Pedro_Valverde has joined the server.
23:16 COMMAND Bodhi: l hello
23:16 Hck5: make me surender
23:16 Hck5: ask me to surender
23:16 Hck5: -.-
23:16 COMMAND Bodhi: l what are those tatoos motherf**ker
23:16 COMMAND Bodhi: l u member of gang?
23:16 Hck5: ..............
23:16 COMMAND Bodhi: s speak up punk
23:16 COMMAND Hck5: l wtf leave me alone
23:16 COMMAND Hck5: l i did nothing
23:16 COMMAND Bodhi: s dont move a muscle chump
23:16 [EAF]Rapture: lol pulse
23:16 [WS]PulseEffect: lolol
23:16 COMMAND Bodhi: l u're going with me for investigation
23:16 COMMAND Hck5: l what you want from me
23:16 COMMAND Bodhi: l u're member of biker gang
*** se123 has joined the server.
23:17 COMMAND Bodhi: l refuse and we handle it another way
23:17 COMMAND Hck5: l yer england is bad no talk you
23:17 COMMAND Bodhi: sus hck5 resisting arrest
23:17 COMMAND Bodhi: sur hck5
23:17 COMMAND Hck5: sur
23:17 [EAF]Rapture: mascot of the day
23:17 [EAF]Rapture: mercedes
23:17 [EAF]Klaus: lolk
23:17 COMMAND Hck5: report Bohdi he suspected me for "tatoos" -.-
23:17 Bodhi: mercedes haker im tink
23:17 Bodhi: 35 pong
23:17 Bodhi: 35 ping pong
23:17 COMMAND [WS]PulseEffect: ping
23:18 COMMAND Hck5: report Bodhi he suspected me for
23:18 Mercedes: xD
23:18 COMMAND Hck5: report Bodhi he suspected me for "tatoos" :D
23:18 COMMAND [EAF]Rapture: go
23:18 [WS]PulseEffect: nah man 430
23:18 [EAF]Klaus: lol
23:18 [WS]PulseEffect: ftw
23:18 [WS]PulseEffect: Aussie Hamster Power
23:18 Hck5: -.-
23:18 Pedro_Valverde: r
23:18 COMMAND Bodhi: l ok sir
23:18 COMMAND Bodhi: l now we go
23:18 COMMAND Hck5: l you know that this is a rule break right?
23:18 COMMAND Bodhi: l shut up motherf**ker
23:18 COMMAND [WS]PulseEffect: l STOP
23:18 COMMAND Bodhi: jail hck
*** [EAF]Rapture has joined the server.
23:18 COMMAND Hck5: l help me please
23:18 [EAF]Klaus: mercedes has a nice ping
23:18 COMMAND Bodhi: l motherf**ker
23:18 COMMAND Bodhi: l u bothering me
23:18 COMMAND Bodhi: l ok fine
23:18 Pedro_Valverde: register
23:18 COMMAND Hck5: l pulse help
23:18 COMMAND [WS]PulseEffect: l
23:18 DEATH Hck5 KILLED BY Bodhi (Shotgun)
23:18 Hck5: What the fuuuckkkk
23:19 COMMAND [WS]PulseEffect: report Bodhi Random DM
23:19 Mercedes: why?
23:19 COMMAND Hck5: report bodhi deathmatch
23:19 [WS]PulseEffect: wtf
*** luisana has joined the server.
23:19 Hck5: he is deathmatching
23:19 [WS]PulseEffect: You shot him I was gonna RP
23:19 Hck5: he suspected me for tatoos
23:19 [EAF]Klaus: mercedes its not a bad thing :)
23:19 Hck5: he suspected me for tatoos
23:19 Hck5: -.-
23:19 Mercedes: my ping is 35
23:19 [EAF]Klaus: thats good.
*** Pedro_Valverde has joined the server.
23:19 Mercedes: :)
23:19 Hck5: wtf.... he roleplayed 1 text and then he sused me and killed-.-

Apparently the language he used wasn't acceptable either.

No the language you used is not allowed and is inexcusable.

There's also Bohdi suspecting without warning players to surrender on 2 Sep.

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16:33 COMMAND Bohdi: sus 6 assault
16:33 DEATH CooloN KILLED BY Bohdi (Stubby)
16:33 COMMAND Bohdi: lot
16:33 COMMAND Bohdi: loot


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16:16 COMMAND Bohdi: sus cool evade
16:18 COMMAND Bohdi: hp cool
*** WTF6 has joined the server.
16:19 COMMAND Bohdi: hp cool
16:19 WTF6: coolon need help
16:19 WTF6: coolon need help
16:20 WTF6: coolon need help ?\
16:20 WTF6: coolon need help ?\
16:20 COMMAND Bohdi: wanted
16:20 COMMAND Bohdi: hp cool
16:20 WTF6: sit in
16:21 COMMAND CooloN: admin
16:21 COMMAND Bohdi: sus 2 aid
16:21 WTF6: f**k
16:21 CooloN: why
16:21 DEATH WTF6 KILLED BY Bohdi (Ruger)


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16:23 COMMAND Bohdi: sus 2 aid
16:23 CooloN: lol
*** Sardar.Khan has joined the server.
16:23 COMMAND Bohdi: hp 0
16:23 WTF6: sardar help krr
16:23 COMMAND Bohdi: hp 0
16:23 WTF6: sardar help krr
16:23 COMMAND Bohdi: hp 0
16:24 COMMAND Sardar.Khan: login <omitted>
16:24 +TK.Feltzer: !wep mini 99999
*** lowbattery has joined the server.
16:24 +TK.Feltzer: rpg
16:24 COMMAND Bohdi: hp 0
16:25 COMMAND WTF6: wanted
16:25 COMMAND Bohdi: hp 0
16:25 DEATH WTF6 KILLED BY Bohdi (Ruger)


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16:32 COMMAND Bohdi: sus cool vehicular assault
16:32 COMMAND Sardar.Khan: policehelp
16:32 COMMAND lowbattery: allcmds 4
16:32 CooloN: go
16:32 DEATH WTF6 KILLED BY Bohdi (M4)
16:32 AUTO-SUS Bohdi (Killing Innocents)
16:32 DEATH CooloN KILLED BY Bohdi (M4)


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16:33 DEATH Motown KILLED BY Bohdi (Stubby)
16:33 Bohdi: bam
16:33 COMMAND Bohdi: loot


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16:33 COMMAND Bohdi: sus 6 assault
16:33 DEATH CooloN KILLED BY Bohdi (Stubby)
16:33 COMMAND Bohdi: lot
16:33 COMMAND Bohdi: loot

And Eddie_Pulaski, ANOTHER one of Marcell's "corrupt" cop personas...

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15:26 COMMAND [EAF]Marcell: wire Eddie_Pulaski 1
15:26 COMMAND CooloN: me has sold out 100k album in all country
15:26 COMMAND [EAF]Marcell: wire Eddie_Pulaski 80000

... making no effort to roleplay or teach anyone else who might not have been to roleplay, but instead suspecting and chasing them even though he's a regular and should know better. Players who might not have even spoken English well enough to know what "pull over" means would have been suspected for "evading."

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15:30 COMMAND Eddie_Pulaski: pull cool
15:30 COMMAND Eddie_Pulaski: sus cool evading
15:30 Sardar.Khan: licenses ??
15:30 COMMAND Eddie_Pulaski: sur
15:30 COMMAND Eddie_Pulaski: sur cool
*** Yekaz has joined the server.
15:30 Sardar.Khan: come
15:30 Sardar.Khan: come with us
15:30 COMMAND Asadddd: l
15:30 COMMAND WTF6: l lhikkr baat kro
15:30 Yekaz: DSAD
15:30 WTF6: type /c l
15:31 COMMAND Asadddd: l
15:31 COMMAND Sardar.Khan: l come with us
15:31 WTF6: local chat ka liya
15:31 COMMAND Sardar.Khan: l come with us
15:31 COMMAND WTF6: l why
15:31 Yekaz: "PANDILLERO"
15:31 DEATH CooloN KILLED BY Eddie_Pulaski (Ruger)


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15:32 COMMAND Eddie_Pulaski: pull 5
15:32 COMMAND WTF6: l <omitted>@yahoo.com
15:32 [EAF]Alarba: and speak english in mainchat or use /msg ID
15:32 COMMAND Eddie_Pulaski: pull 5
15:32 COMMAND Eddie_Pulaski: sus yek evading
15:32 COMMAND Yekaz: wanted
15:33 COMMAND Eddie_Pulaski: sur yek
15:33 COMMAND Eddie_Pulaski: sur yek

As for the logs from 12 Sep:

23:38   COMMAND Bodhi: sus 2 urinating on PD roof
23:38   COMMAND Hck5: report bodhi deathmatching
23:38    Hck5: ./c sur
23:38   COMMAND Hck5: sur
23:38    Bodhi: ahahahah
23:38   DEATH Hck5 KILLED BY Bodhi (M4)
23:38   COMMAND Bodhi: loot

hck5 roleplayed pissing on the PD roof earlier, he had a helicopter - I asked him to surrender but he thought running away would be a better solution so I just killed him instead, he died right after typing /c sur.

Even though you didn't warn him to surrender by using /c sur yourself, so he didn't exactly have time to use /c sur when you shot him.

23:26   COMMAND Bodhi: jail hck
23:26   COMMAND Bodhi: jail hck
*** Pedro_Valverde has joined the server.
23:26   COMMAND Hck5: l suck it
23:26   COMMAND Bodhi: jail hck
23:26   COMMAND Bodhi: wanted
23:26   DEATH Hck5 KILLED BY Bodhi (M4)

hck5 did something like /me takes out his dick then /c l 'suck it', so I ran up to him and started punching him, while he had low HP he started running away while trying to punch me (but the run-punch is desynched) so I just killed him instead.

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; Okay
23:25 COMMAND Bodhi: sus hck5 assault
23:25 COMMAND Bodhi: sur hck
23:25 COMMAND Hck5: sur

; In jail
23:25 COMMAND Bodhi: jail hck
23:25 COMMAND Bodhi: jail hck
23:25 COMMAND Bodhi: jail hck
23:25 [EAF]Klaus: lol
23:25 Mercedes: aggroboy --.-

; Has to still be in jail for this to happen since it happens within the same minute
23:25 COMMAND Hck5: me shows his cock

; Either a delayed reaction or just seconds after that
23:26 COMMAND Bodhi: sus 2 OFENSE TO OFICER
23:26 COMMAND Hck5: l take this u f**king kid

; ?
23:26 COMMAND Bodhi: jail hck
23:26 COMMAND Bodhi: jail hck
*** Pedro_Valverde has joined the server.
23:26 COMMAND Hck5: l suck it
23:26 COMMAND Bodhi: jail hck

; Weren't you guarding the cell, considering you managed to suspect him?
23:26 COMMAND Bodhi: wanted

; Not warned to surrender at any point. Excessive force used.
23:26 DEATH Hck5 KILLED BY Bodhi (M4)

; ?
23:26 COMMAND Hck5: report boghi in jail kill
*** ANDR_s has joined the server.
23:26 COMMAND [EAF]Rapture: pull klaus
23:26 COMMAND [EAF]Rapture: pull klaus
23:26 COMMAND Hck5: report bodhi in jail kill PLEASE do something with this .....

Most of these logs aren't even isolated incidents. They're strings of killing and suspect-hunting that occur multiple times in the same day, hell, within the same hour.

As I already explained, this was escalated from a copban because I knew that Bohdi/Bodhi was Marcell and that he should've known better than to stretch the rules like he did, especially considering this isn't the first time that it's happened, nor is it the first time he's been warned for it not just as Bohdi/Bodhi, but on his main account and any of his other personas.

How this was considered acceptable is beyond me; had this been anyone else, they'd be frozen and talked to by an administrator, and warned to put some more effort into their "roleplaying" or to watch who and where they're shooting, but in all cases after his tempban, either there were no admins online to deal with it, or the admins online decided to overlook it.

And Marcell, next time you want to roleplay a corrupt/"newbie" cop, do it within fair limits instead of pushing your luck and shooting people because they don't understand what pulling over is, and killing people a few seconds after they're suspected even though you never warned them to surrender or gave them a fair chance to to begin with.

[Marcell]

I didn't even realize I was copbanned on Bohdi. I just made a new account called Bodhi since Bohdi one is basically a typo (the name of the character is based on the protagonist of Point Break)

in case one hck5 started punching me so I suspected him for resisting arrest,

warnings don't really tend to do anything while the suspects just try to attack you or get in an infernus so I haven't bothered to use them before but I was warned for it and got tempbanned too thus it was an old offense besides I have never heard of a server-side rule 'always ask to surrender before shooting' but a cop regulation rule...

about the acting rough towards newbies, I was quite sure CooloN understood english since he pulled over once if I remember right.

[Klaus]

I didn't even realize I was copbanned on Bohdi. I just made a new account called Bodhi since Bohdi one is basically a typo

In future, why don't you just play under one alias? The stories about the logs are shady but you brought it onto yourself by acting an idiot. Your a good player but fuck up too many times. Start listening to the admins and take some advice because your chances are slipping fast.

Unbanned