War with Iran is imminent, says the media.

[EenBeeFour]

Soviet Russia played a major role in World War 2, especially when it came to saving Europe, Mikal.

Back during (I think) the invasion of Poland, Germany had a pact with Russia, but that probably broke around in 1940-42 and put Germany in a dangerous position, especially having to send troops from the West against France and the UK to push into the USSR

[Mikal]

Yes they did. The British strived to keep themselves safe even with the water obstacle for Germany. France - no comment. USA - did a part in the war but does not even come close to what the Eastern Front was. While the USSR had to hold a Germany who was throwing all on only one European front for 2 years, and who still held most of its resources in that same front for the rest of the war.

Regardless of what Russia planned to do about their neighbors during the war, you can't deny they saved a huge chunk of Europe.

Nearly every country took park in saving Europe, the only reason Europe was ever over-run in the first place was because it's up Germany's ass, it'd be pathetic of Russia to say 'Oh yeah we saved Europe' since the UK, USSR and America took part in it.

[Kizzu]

Russia didn't save Europe, and Russia wasnt fighting for Europe, they were fighting for themselves....

USSR did play a crucial part in the Ally victory

[Kirgiz]

Not true. We speak English because it is a simple language that has evolved to be used without a lot of grammatical structure. We could speak Latin as most Doctors do, however the high level of grammar makes it much harder to access. The script and pronounciation of Arabic and Chinese are complicated for most Europeans, meaning there is little alternative to be used for world language.

I've studied German and I can say that it's a lot easier than English, yet I do not see many people using German as international one. It's actually true, the reason we all speak Inglesias is due to British Empire expansion + America. Everyone from Europe, when immigrating to America, started learning English so it would be easier to speak there, and since both USA and UK evolved into a big nation, also by influencing with media, it was just predetermined that English will be the international language. Language simplicity is just a big bonus quickening the English language expansion.

That explains how russia saved europe in WW2....VODKA!

I'm surprised you didn't know about it. A well known common fact which was said by my grandfather is that during WWII, especially during winter, there were daily "battle 100g" ("боевые сто грам" in Russian) given to almost every soldier on the frontier. No, not 100g of pot, 100g of vodka, it's basically two shots of vodka, they were given to warm up a bit, as a fear anesthetic and as a morale booster.

Nearly every country took park in saving Europe, the only reason Europe was ever over-run in the first place was because it's up Germany's ass, it'd be pathetic of Russia to say 'Oh yeah we saved Europe' since the UK, USSR and America took part in it.

Not really. British were fighting in North Africa and simply disrupting some operations at Northern German parts with a bit of France, USA, for the most part, only did a great advance at the Normandy, rest of the fighting for them were in the Pacific theater, Russia was the only one fighting in European core, the only one who disrupted German advancement through Russia (God bless Russians and their nuclear winters), fought back and finished Germany at it's core.

While, no doubt, USA and UK played a big role supporting Russia in whole WWII conflict, the WWII for Germany ended only thanks to Russia, because USA and UK was being pussies at sending their troops. For clarification, if I remember correct, USA joined war only in 1943 in Europe, while Russia fighting Nazis since mid-late 1939.

[aleksandar_gojkovic]

Ok, let me prove in one sentence that russians saved Europe:

They conquered berlin first, put theyre flag on the reichstag first, and killed all remaining germans soldiers in it, and after that split Berlin to 4 parts, one for them threee others gave to allies.

Long story short...

[Alan.Wake]

No one saved Europe, it destroyed itself till a breaking point.

[EenBeeFour]

Ok, let me prove in one sentence that russians saved Europe:

They conquered berlin first, put theyre flag on the reichstag first, and killed all remaining germans soldiers in it, and after that split Berlin to 4 parts, one for them threee others gave to allies.

Long story short...

Russia didn't do that, that was Allied occupation splitting it up into multiple portions which formed West and East Germany. East Germany was a Republic, West Germany was a Federation I believe

Allied-Occupied Germany

[aleksandar_gojkovic]

Russia didn't do that, that was Allied occupation splitting it up into multiple portions which formed West and East Germany. East Germany was a Republic, West Germany was a Federation I believe

Allied-Occupied Germany

Ok, i admit, a small mistake. BUT, RUSSIANS DID arrive in Berlin first and THEY FIRST put theyre flag on the top of reichstag! THEY ended the war BUT ONLY in Europe.

[Salmonella]

Yes they did. The British strived to keep themselves safe even with the water obstacle for Germany. France - no comment. USA - did a part in the war but does not even come close to what the Eastern Front was. While the USSR had to hold a Germany who was throwing all on only one European front for 2 years, and who still held most of its resources in that same front for the rest of the war.

Regardless of what Russia planned to do about their neighbors during the war, you can't deny they saved a huge chunk of Europe.

Basically the only thing Russia did during WWII was kicking Germany in the back while the worthy adversaries, the USA and the UK, did all the real work. I don't believe there's even a little chance that the USSR might've won at the eastern front if the UK didn't do such a good job on the other fronts. Untrained heaps of flesh with inferior equipment, but huge amounts of them. Needless to say, the USSR lost at least 10 times more men at the eastern front than Germany. A lot of undeserved victories with some portions of rape and useless murder is what the USSR brought and got during, but also after world war two.

[aleksandar_gojkovic]

Basically the only thing Russia did during WWII was kicking Germany in the back while the worthy adversaries, the USA and the UK, did all the real work. I don't believe there's even a little chance that the USSR might've won at the eastern front if the UK didn't do such a good job on the other fronts. Untrained heaps of flesh with inferior equipment, but huge amounts of them. Needless to say, the USSR lost at least 10 times more men at the eastern front than Germany. A lot of undeserved victories with some portions of rape and useless murder is what the USSR brought and got during, but also after world war two.

You failed.


Russian battles were GREAT BATTLES OF great cities of:

-Staljingrad
-Lenjingrad
-Moscow
-Kursk
-Minsk
-Berlin
-Vienna
-Buchurest
-Prag
-Varsaw
-Conquering ALL NAZI COUNTRIES!
etc...


NOTE FOR AMERICANS AND BRITISH: the battles i said were not ACTUALL NAMES of those battles, BUT THEY WERE DESCRIPTIONS of actuall battles that they fought.

And "GREAT" American and British battles of silly little villages and following:

-Battle for a bridge
-Battle for a hill
-Battle for an overpass
-Battle for that little bridge behind that hill they took
-They took over paris (FOR THAT I CONGRATZ).

Yadda yadd yadda ETC...

Russians also conquering berlin, Americans and British conquering unimportant places and Paris.

Even a fool can notice the obivouse...

[Salmonella]

Not even going to argue with a boy who believes Coca Cola is poisoned and that the 'illuminati' are going to take over the world. Plain nationalistic bullshit for something you're not even a part of up above. You've been playing too much CoD or MoH if you really believe that shit.

[EenBeeFour]

You failed.


Russian battles were GREAT BATTLES OF great cities of:

-Staljingrad
-Lenjingrad
-Moscow
-Kursk
-Minsk
-Berlin
-Vienna
-Buchurest
-Prag
-Varsaw
-Conquering ALL NAZI COUNTRIES!
etc...


NOTE FOR AMERICANS AND BRITISH: the battles i said were not ACTUALL NAMES of those battles, BUT THEY WERE DESCRIPTIONS of actuall battles that they fought.

And "GREAT" American and British battles of silly little villages and following:

-Battle for a bridge
-Battle for a hill
-Battle for an overpass
-Battle for that little bridge behind that hill they took
-They took over paris (FOR THAT I CONGRATZ).

Yadda yadd yadda ETC...

Russians also conquering berlin, Americans and British conquering unimportant places and Paris.

Even a fool can notice the obivouse...

Oh my fucking God.

How old are you?

[Mikal]

You failed.


Russian battles were GREAT BATTLES OF great cities of:

-Staljingrad
-Lenjingrad
-Moscow
-Kursk
-Minsk
-Berlin
-Vienna
-Buchurest
-Prag
-Varsaw
-Conquering ALL NAZI COUNTRIES!
etc...


NOTE FOR AMERICANS AND BRITISH: the battles i said were not ACTUALL NAMES of those battles, BUT THEY WERE DESCRIPTIONS of actuall battles that they fought.

And "GREAT" American and British battles of silly little villages and following:

-Battle for a bridge
-Battle for a hill
-Battle for an overpass
-Battle for that little bridge behind that hill they took
-They took over paris (FOR THAT I CONGRATZ).

Yadda yadd yadda ETC...

Russians also conquering berlin, Americans and British conquering unimportant places and Paris.

Even a fool can notice the obivouse...

Oh ok man, so Britain didn't keep the nazis out of the UK and completely dominate their air force.
America did nothing, they just sat in a medieval cottage eating burgers whilst nazi tanks drove past.

Russia did everything, Russia saved the world, if it werent for Russia we'd all be dead.

Of course I'm not being sarcastic.

[Salmonella]

and completely dominate their air force.

No, actually. They won the battle of brittain nicely, but after that, it was downhill for any airforce that dared to fight the Luftwaffe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Hartmann
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_M%C3%B6lders
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Galland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz-Wolfgang_Schnaufer

And for a couple of hundred more fantastic pilots:

http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/war-air/12815-luftwaffe-aces-list-pilots-100-kills-notes.html

None of them were devoted nazis, they were war heroes just like some of their enemies, respected by both friend and foe.

[EenBeeFour]

Wasn't the Luftwaffe the most prestigious airforce during World War 2 as well?