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War with Iran is imminent, says the media.

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Reply #90 on: November 12, 2012, 07:39:57 pm
I am afraid that the United States of America will attack Iran without permission from the UN Safety Council once more. They did it with Iraq, and it wouldn't surprise me if they did it to Iran too. The best solution for all parts is a diplomatic solution that benefits all sides. Russia and China are with Iran, and United States, Britain and France are probably with Israel. The situation between Israel and Iran is not only about nuclear weapons, so we should definately find a diplomatic solution to clear the air, and make sure no attacks will be made from any part.

Anyone else than me thinks it's stupid of USA to threath Iran with an attack when they are the only ones on earth that have used nuclear weapons by all time?



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Reply #91 on: November 12, 2012, 07:45:11 pm
And it was obvious since June that war will happen.
It was predicted that Iran would be the next Middle Eastern warzone since the United States was half-way through bombing the life out of Iraq.

It's unfortunate to see that it might become a reality now...



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Reply #92 on: November 12, 2012, 07:48:49 pm
inb4 world war 3  :m4: :m4: :m4: :m4: :m4: :m4: :m4:




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Reply #93 on: November 12, 2012, 07:50:15 pm
inb4 world war 3  :m4:
I honestly wouldn't doubt it. Half the Middle East is pissed at the U.S. and vice versa over political and religious issues, and with Iran and Israel fighting, and Israel being considered a holy place for 3 major religions, and all groups having nuclear capabilities, this could very well be a war that ends all wars.



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Reply #94 on: November 12, 2012, 07:50:54 pm
I am afraid that the United States of America will attack Iran without permission from the UN Safety Council once more. They did it with Iraq, and it wouldn't surprise me if they did it to Iran too. The best solution for all parts is a diplomatic solution that benefits all sides. Russia and China are with Iran, and United States, Britain and France are probably with Israel. The situation between Israel and Iran is not only about nuclear weapons, so we should definately find a diplomatic solution to clear the air, and make sure no attacks will be made from any part.

Anyone else than me thinks it's stupid of USA to threath Iran with an attack when they are the only ones on earth that have used nuclear weapons by all time?
The US will not attack Iran at all, they'd cop a load of shit off Russia and China if they did, you have to remember countries have nuclear weapons so that other countries either listen to them or just to stop them being invaded, a deterance more than anything, if China and Russia together decide that if American attacks Iran, they'd both attack America, a nuclear war would break out and the most likely outcome is America would be flattend, mainly due to China and Russia's nuclear dominance, however America would likely ask NATO for help if they were to do such attack, in which case it'd be a world war and everyone would be fucked, America is China's biggest exporter, nobody buys as much from China as America does, so the likely hood of America wanting war with China is also low.

Out of everything, I doubt America would have the balls to attack Iran due to the consequences that they'd give themselves.

It was predicted that Iran would be the next Middle Eastern warzone since the United States was half-way through bombing the life out of Iraq.

It's unfortunate to see that it might become a reality now...
No.. America cannot/will not bomb Iran due to the threats from China and Russia, and they'd both do anything/find any reason to attack America.

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Reply #95 on: November 12, 2012, 07:52:57 pm
No.. America cannot/will not bomb Iran due to the threats from China and Russia, and they'd both do anything/find any reason to attack America.
Not necessarily. Keep in mind that the United States will very well use a nuclear threat as an excuse, and if Iran tries to nuke anyone, especially them, we all know the United States will hop in on this, claiming they are trying to keep the peace. It's not the first time...just the first time with nukes involved. That's the part that seriously worries me...



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Reply #96 on: November 12, 2012, 07:54:30 pm
Not necessarily. Keep in mind that the United States will very well use a nuclear threat as an excuse, and if Iran tries to nuke anyone, especially them, we all know the United States will hop in on this, claiming they are trying to keep the peace. It's not the first time...just the first time with nukes involved. That's the part that seriously worries me...
China and Russia would use nukes on the USA.. :poke:

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Reply #97 on: November 12, 2012, 07:55:53 pm
I honestly wouldn't doubt it. Half the Middle East is pissed at the U.S. and vice versa over political and religious issues, and with Iran and Israel fighting, and Israel being considered a holy place for 3 major religions, and all groups having nuclear capabilities, this could very well be a war that ends all wars.
i already knew that shit gonna happen since 2010, those who say obama will help israel your wrong, if he fights iran he will lose alot of his cash and he just wont do shit.
china, russia and iran are bigger then israel x500, i mean seriously do you even call it a war?




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Reply #98 on: November 12, 2012, 08:03:19 pm
China and Russia would use nukes on the USA.. :poke:
They barely have any nukes compared to the United States. If it came to a second arms race/Cold War, the United States would likely win the moment a single nuke went off. They have military posted across the entire world with nuclear capabilities in multiple locations. Even if some hit the country, the United States could more than easily fight back and probably win with sheer massive damage alone. It's not something that makes me proud of my country, I'll admit that much.



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Reply #99 on: November 12, 2012, 08:17:20 pm
They barely have any nukes compared to the United States. If it came to a second arms race/Cold War, the United States would likely win the moment a single nuke went off. They have military posted across the entire world with nuclear capabilities in multiple locations. Even if some hit the country, the United States could more than easily fight back and probably win with sheer massive damage alone. It's not something that makes me proud of my country, I'll admit that much.
Wrong, completely wrong... Russia has more nukes than America on their own, without China's help..
The list below shows how many warheads the countries have under their control.

Russia - 10,000
United States - 8,000
France - 300
United Kingdom - 225 >
China - 240
Pakistan - 110
India - 100
North Korea - < 10

Edit: Most countries have only half of less of their warheads active and ready for launch, the rest are backups, I guess.. :trust:
Also, how do you not know Russia and China also have nuclear bases across the world? You can't assume America would win like you just did, it's not possible, in a nuclear war every side loses, China and Russia both have islands round their own country, America alone is surrounded by islands still owned by the British, as an example they could have nuclear bases on that you don't know about, you can't just assume the USA would win, half the world wants America's head, the likely scenario is America would be obliterated, Asia would be damaged and Russia would be damaged, after all Russia is the worlds biggest continent, Asia is also bigger than America, the outcome would not be good on anyones side.

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Reply #100 on: November 12, 2012, 08:30:36 pm
Wrong, completely wrong... Russia has more nukes than America on their own, without China's help..
The list below shows how many warheads the countries have under their control.

Russia - 10,000
United States - 8,000
France - 300
United Kingdom - 225 >
China - 240
Pakistan - 110
India - 100
North Korea - < 10

Edit: Most countries have only half of less of their warheads active and ready for launch, the rest are backups, I guess.. :trust:
Also, how do you not know Russia and China also have nuclear bases across the world? You can't assume America would win like you just did, it's not possible, in a nuclear war every side loses, China and Russia both have islands round their own country, America alone is surrounded by islands still owned by the British, as an example they could have nuclear bases on that you don't know about, you can't just assume the USA would win, half the world wants America's head, the likely scenario is America would be obliterated, Asia would be damaged and Russia would be damaged, after all Russia is the worlds biggest continent, Asia is also bigger than America, the outcome would not be good on anyones side.
You're only counting known land-based nuclear missiles. Keep in mind that the United States also has sea-based missiles, nuclear submarines, and a variety of other ways to nuke a country, including the old-fashioned bombing method.

@America not winning because of worldwide hate: That doesn't matter. Not every country is going to gang up on the U.S. unless they become the next Nazi Germany, and even then out of fear they likely would stay neutral. Yes, many countries hate them, but not many are willing or capable of attacking them.



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Reply #101 on: November 12, 2012, 08:36:47 pm
You're only counting known land-based nuclear missiles. Keep in mind that the United States also has sea-based missiles, nuclear submarines, and a variety of other ways to nuke a country, including the old-fashioned bombing method.
Russia has nuclear submarines, the UK has 2 nuclear submarines, along with 1 in production, don't think China has nuclear submarines, they don't even have an aircraft carrier.. :lol: Oh wait they have 1 and it sucks..

At the end of the day Russia is the worlds nuclear king, between their submarines and on-land based missiles they dominate..
China has no submarines, however their country would be hard to invade and they'd probibly go all stabba stabba with knives attached to their guns making up a grose/unhumain battle.

And can you ever really know where a nuclear submarine is? I'm sure the technologys out there but it's very secret..
Unless a country reveals where it's subs are theres no real way of telling. inb4'AmericaCanFindThem'

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Reply #102 on: November 12, 2012, 09:31:33 pm
Countries hate us because we have idiots running the Government. They claim they will represent the people, but all they care is themselves.

Where must we go... we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?


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Reply #103 on: November 12, 2012, 09:35:26 pm
Couple days ago oil reservs are discovered in Brazil so there will be WW3  :m4: :m4: :m4: :m4: :m4: :m4: :sig: :sig: :sig: :sig: :sig: :sig:



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Reply #104 on: November 12, 2012, 09:36:21 pm
Russia has nuclear submarines, the UK has 2 nuclear submarines, along with 1 in production, don't think China has nuclear submarines, they don't even have an aircraft carrier.. :lol: Oh wait they have 1 and it sucks..
inb4'AmericaCanFindThem'
Don't get me started about USA having more carriers than Russia tenfold.... and ultimately superior aircraft in general.


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