Argonath Democracy Movement - Message for all the Argonathians.

[Huntsman]

Dear Arghonathians,

I'm Maxwell Rogers. I have been an activist to change the political system in Argonath for quite a long time now. But seems that my efforts are going to get to waste if i will not publicy my ideals and thoughts.

Since the very beggining of the existance ot he United States of Argonath, the system in Argonath has been dictatorship, under two the rule of two people, which is Aragorn and Gandalf.
Even though i do admire their efforts in trying to make the state a better place to live, in my opinion, the people of the nation themselves should be allowed to take part in the bussiness of the country THEY are living in.

My proposal is to establish a whole government based on democratical essentials, or to form a parlament to represent the voice of the people.
My first achievment as a democracy in Argonath activist was the established democratical Mayor elections in the state of Liberty City (LU), my next achievment was to publicily promote the freedom of speech and opinion, which has caused my dismissal from various positions i used to uphold.

With this letter, i'm inviting the people of Argonath to unite into the new political party/prostest - Argonath Democracy Movement.

What would we do?

Make public or closed forums on matters that are topical in Argonath
Represent the public opinion and voice
Various roleplay events and opportunities

Join the peaceful movement by fullfilling this tiny form:

Code: [Select]

[b]In game name and roleplay name:[/b]
[b]Political and religious views?:[/b]
[b]Your opinion about current Argonath Political system?:[/b]

Feel free to discuss this, as long as you keep it civilized!

Members:

Party minister:
Max_Rogers

Party Members:
[WS]Teddy
Chase
Sweeper
Mr.Goobii
Janek
Marcel_
Jack_Bauer
Mobius

The Minister of Argonath Democracy Movement
Maxwell P. Payne

[Dean.]

I will not support this. Even if it is dicatorship. We have nothing to complaint. Our economy is doing fine and the citizens are safe, thanks to the SAPD, FBI and other police groups.



Sorry Max.

[Huntsman]

I will not support this. Even if it is dicatorship. We have nothing to complaint. Our economy is doing fine and the citizens are safe, thanks to the SAPD, FBI and other police groups.



Sorry Max.

Lol no problem man. This is just a roleplay proposal and an attempt to change something in the Argonath so the gameplay would become a little bit more interesting.

No hard feelings bro, take care!

[Teddy]

 :conf: uhm what

[Huntsman]

:conf: uhm what

Oh dear... 

[Gandalf]

Dear Mr Payne,

In respect to various proposals of forming a government, we have always been open to a democratic system. However before initiating the formation of such a system we have also every time requested to give a full scale proposal of the actual functioning, powers and responsibilities of the various bodies to be formed.

As for any democratic system that goes beyond the in-game influence we are open as soon as every active player will contribute real life taxes so that, like every other government, we can draw money instead of inserting.

I await your proposal.

[Huntsman]

Dear Mr Payne,

In respect to various proposals of forming a government, we have always been open to a democratic system. However before initiating the formation of such a system we have also every time requested to give a full scale proposal of the actual functioning, powers and responsibilities of the various bodies to be formed.

As for any democratic system that goes beyond the in-game influence we are open as soon as every active player will contribute real life taxes so that, like every other government, we can draw money instead of inserting.

I await your proposal.

Dear Gandalf,

It seems that you tend to criticize the democratic governments of the other republics due to the fact that they're more taking than giving, am i assuming correct?
If yes, in that case let me remind you that this is Argonath and we can always make the system work the way we want it to work, all we need is a will.\

My proposal is to make a parlament of Argonath , that would be led by the political party that would win the elections and would be accompanied by another 4 parties that has got the second highest amount of votes. The parlament would have indirect control of the country. It would discuss the problems of the nation, possible solutions.
If this form of democracy would work, we could focus on an attempt to make the democracy more influent in the control of the government.

Sincerely yours,

The minister of ADM - Maxwell P. Payne

[Gandalf]

Your proposal is extremely short and incomplete.
I requested you to propose a full system for democratic bodies with their responsibilities and powers, and your response is nowhere near that.

So if you wish to accomplish something, perhaps you will try to invest some proper time in it.

[Huntsman]

Your proposal is extremely short and incomplete.
I requested you to propose a full system for democratic bodies with their responsibilities and powers, and your response is nowhere near that.

So if you wish to accomplish something, perhaps you will try to invest some proper time in it.

Sure, i will, i only gave you a little summary of what it would work like.

Off the record:

I have a LOT of homework to do today and im tired as hell since i had like 8 lessons today. I'll make sure to give you a full description of my suggestions once i'm a little more free than that.

[Chase]

Max, I believe what Gandalf is trying to tell you is that he wants an actual concept design of the structure of this democratic government. Establishing a government is not easy and takes some time. I am currently taking a government class in school so perhaps I could help you make that if you want.

[Teddy]

I'd be glad to help as well, I've taken various random ass courses in my time in School, few of them being the government & democracy and the foundations of government.

To expand he is asking for a really in-depth step-by-step outline of the proposal, covering every angle from possible abuse methods, and how to solve them to how the simplest elements of it function with care.

[Jcstodds]

I have already seen this kind of thing (I had a lot of support running as the Mayor of LS at one point with the Self Preservation Society - So much so that my competition usually ended up joining the party rather than oppose).... Check the topic out. The only recruiting I did was ingame - everything we done was ingame and that's how many we had join.

And guess what, it takes a lot of ingenuity, ingame activity, thinking through and lots of work.

So from past experience, I predict in 2 weeks from now this topic will be dead and your own contributions ingame will amount to near nothing concerning this movement.


  And if there is such an ingame movement, retaliation from the Dictator Political Party will be swift and brutally lead by Father Bastard :evil:  Or you better try to get further than I did to have a chance : )

[Jcstodds]

Also you may find this topic interesting:
http://www.argonathrpg.com/index.php?topic=28654.0

[Huntsman]

So, Teddy and Chase, should i count you in as the party members so we can start thinking of a possible concept?

[Sweeper]

In real life it takes years and years for some countries to launch a democracy. Even if it's a game, it won't be possible to turn Argonath into a working democracy in two or three weeks.

I'm studying public administration and I'm willing to help.