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Reply #90 on: October 31, 2012, 07:37:33 pm
Where is the proposal? Its 6 pages later and weeks as well. Has anyone even began working togeather on a draft or anything?

I haven't heard much from the leader of this movement.. maybe it's time for a coup  :rofl:




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Reply #91 on: November 05, 2012, 10:21:37 am
Where is the proposal? Its 6 pages later and weeks as well. Has anyone even began working togeather on a draft or anything?

The draft has been made and posted pages ago. It honestly is not my concern if you overseen it.

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Reply #92 on: November 07, 2012, 04:23:45 pm
Dear citizens,

Since we already came up with the scheme (these who participated in our TS meetings know what it looks like), maybe it's time we start an open presentiation of a democratical government, seek presidents approval and start acting?

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Reply #93 on: November 07, 2012, 06:10:42 pm
Dear citizens,

Since we already came up with the scheme (these who participated in our TS meetings know what it looks like), maybe it's time we start an open presentiation of a democratical government, seek presidents approval and start acting?

Count me in! I am going to fight for the legalization of weed tho :weed:




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Reply #94 on: November 07, 2012, 09:42:26 pm
Dear citizens,

Since we already came up with the scheme (these who participated in our TS meetings know what it looks like), maybe it's time we start an open presentiation of a democratical government, seek presidents approval and start acting?

Well I don't see why you need approval to show it to the world and say your views. I gather this is protected under the constitution Section II, Ordinance I.



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Reply #95 on: November 08, 2012, 04:25:39 pm
Well I don't see why you need approval to show it to the world and say your views. I gather this is protected under the constitution Section II, Ordinance I.

But we need approval to start acting as a government..?

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Reply #96 on: November 08, 2012, 11:51:59 pm
But we need approval to start acting as a government..?

Did the Heads of State have the drafts for the proposal?



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Reply #97 on: November 09, 2012, 01:36:44 pm
Did the Heads of State have the drafts for the proposal?

Please ellaborate?

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Reply #98 on: November 09, 2012, 04:03:56 pm
Please ellaborate?

The proposal, if official government is still the goal needs to be presented to the Honorable President Gandalf, and Honorable Prime Minister Aragorn. Is what I believe what Elizabeth is trying to say.



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Reply #99 on: November 09, 2012, 07:17:58 pm
The proposal, if official government is still the goal needs to be presented to the Honorable President Gandalf, and Honorable Prime Minister Aragorn. Is what I believe what Elizabeth is trying to say.

Well yes, because we dont want to rush things. It's good to start off with a mild level of democracy first.

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Reply #100 on: November 09, 2012, 11:57:37 pm
Well yes, because we dont want to rush things. It's good to start off with a mild level of democracy first.

Sounds like a good plan, but you should keep the general public informed of the progress. Keeping the interest will play key and important.



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Reply #101 on: November 10, 2012, 10:28:45 pm
Well can you publish something regarding what you're doing and how you're doing it? I've had a quick look through the topic and seen you want to create a Parliament as the true voice of the nation but there are many things to consider. How is the division on the 3 principle powers? Executive, Legislative and Judicial? Does the Head of State have any form of reserve powers to intervene within legislative/executive/judicial branches? What's the role of the Head of State?

How is the parliament formed? A single house, or two houses? The powers it holds?

I take it you are keeping a form of republic?



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Reply #102 on: November 11, 2012, 09:03:41 am
Well can you publish something regarding what you're doing and how you're doing it? I've had a quick look through the topic and seen you want to create a Parliament as the true voice of the nation but there are many things to consider. How is the division on the 3 principle powers? Executive, Legislative and Judicial? Does the Head of State have any form of reserve powers to intervene within legislative/executive/judicial branches? What's the role of the Head of State?

How is the parliament formed? A single house, or two houses? The powers it holds?

I take it you are keeping a form of republic?

Yes,

It would be like this

The President and the Ministher is the highest leaders of the nation (Due to the fact we dont want to rush and go full democracy before we dont see how it works realised first).
The Parliament has the second lead. Parlament has authority over courts and over other government agencies, however , that authority is supervised by Gandalf and Aragorn to make sure it is not abused.
City councils have the power over a certain city, they're supervised by the Parliament.

We're also suggesting that there might be a commission made out of current ADM members to make sure that our vision is not being broken.

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Reply #103 on: November 13, 2012, 07:40:05 pm
Will there only be one position for Head of State in your proposal? As I see now both the President and Prime Minister are both Head of State and Head of Government. Wouldn't it be wise for the Head of State to be the President and then have an elected Prime Minister via an election or party election?



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Reply #104 on: November 13, 2012, 09:31:14 pm
Will there only be one position for Head of State in your proposal? As I see now both the President and Prime Minister are both Head of State and Head of Government. Wouldn't it be wise for the Head of State to be the President and then have an elected Prime Minister via an election or party election?

As i said before, our way of democracy wouldnt be instant . We want to move towards our goal step-by-step. We should try our mild way of democracy first, so we can see how it works out. Once that's done and if it works perfectly, we can move on with more advanced democracy, such as the one you mentioned.

Post Merge: November 14, 2012, 02:14:59 pm
2012.11.14 21:00 (9:00 CET) - Argonath Democracy Movement closed meeting.

Topic of the meeting:

Revised system, functionality of the democratical government in other states besides San Andreas.

I will have a TS Channel made, once you're in there, send me a TS PM or poke me and i will give you the password.

Post Merge: November 14, 2012, 06:13:11 pm
Postponed, 2012.11.16 20:00 CET

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