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A Worldwide Currency

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Reply #15 on: October 30, 2012, 03:13:41 pm
Everybody wants a global system, but history has shown that it may just end up complicating things more.
All the countries tried to unite after WWII, what resulted was the cold war...
There have been many attempts to unite several things, problem is, not everybody will want to join. And unless every single country joins, its only gonna end up making a bigass mess..


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Reply #16 on: October 30, 2012, 03:19:13 pm
New World Order.



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Reply #17 on: October 30, 2012, 03:25:11 pm
Turning the global economy over to one single currency would lead to larger nations having to share with smaller ones. Earth isn't really known for 'sharing'. Not because we're bad, but because it's in our nature.


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Reply #18 on: October 30, 2012, 05:28:57 pm
You could look at it as counter-intuitive, and going against the idea of bringing the world together...
But, it depends whether currency should be considered a boundary or not. Is it merely a financial tool or more than that?

Even now the world isn't united or as united as it could be, and we don't know if ever there will be a time when there is "ultimate peace" or when everyone is in single mind. Before that maybe it would be a waste to even make efforts such as this.

Turning the global economy over to one single currency would lead to larger nations having to share with smaller ones. Earth isn't really known for 'sharing'. Not because we're bad, but because it's in our nature.

I think you're right.

The predecessor of the United Nations was the League of Nations.
During its set up one thing that the major powers at the time (USA, France, Britain) felt at the time was if they pledged their support/allegiance, from the off they would be relied upon by other nations, and may have to use their resources for the benefit of those around them. Putting it like that, it does make them sound "selfish", but it's not actually so... as all countries would consider their resources precious and would find little need to help out others by providing military or financial support.



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Reply #19 on: October 30, 2012, 06:59:33 pm
After the second WW the USA 'tried' to be caring and sharing.. Sadly this led to capitalist blackmail.
They deployed the "Marshall plan" which aimed to aid countries struck and wounded by the Germans.
They helped clean up and rebuild cities, they gave financial and military support.
On the other hand they used the Marshallplan as some kind of figurative hostage, threating The Netherlands to pull back the aid if they'd not participate in the Korean war for the fight against communism.
See it as giving candy to a child, telling it to walk into traffic and if it refuses, take the candy back. Not exactly ofcourse, but you get my point.


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Reply #20 on: October 30, 2012, 09:43:50 pm
After the second WW the USA 'tried' to be caring and sharing.. Sadly this led to capitalist blackmail.
They deployed the "Marshall plan" which aimed to aid countries struck and wounded by the Germans.
They helped clean up and rebuild cities, they gave financial and military support.
On the other hand they used the Marshallplan as some kind of figurative hostage, threating The Netherlands to pull back the aid if they'd not participate in the Korean war for the fight against communism.
See it as giving candy to a child, telling it to walk into traffic and if it refuses, take the candy back. Not exactly ofcourse, but you get my point.


If anyone remembers, the reparations forced upon the Germans and others on the losing side after WWI were massive.
At one point, seeing the nations' people struggle - poverty, hunger... - some of world powers did offer financial support, but a few years after (when things started heading the wrong way again) this money was apparently asked to be returned.


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Reply #21 on: October 31, 2012, 01:07:21 am

If anyone remembers, the reparations forced upon the Germans and others on the losing side after WWI were massive.
At one point, seeing the nations' people struggle - poverty, hunger... - some of world powers did offer financial support, but a few years after (when things started heading the wrong way again) this money was apparently asked to be returned.

The Marshallplan helped the majority of Europe a LOT, made sure the future would be bright. USA used this as leverage for an international trading position.
But also giving themselves authority to order countries who to tolerate and not. Enforcing the Truman doctrine in this case.
Germany obviously did not get a lot of financial support, which is also a reason why Hitler could claim such a huge amount of support from the population. Acting as a great leader, pointing out the 'bad guys', the ones who ruined Germany's structure, the ones who are to blame for all the suffering and poverty, the jews. This anger focussed on a scapegoat was the reason why Hitler could perform his plans of increasing Germany's living space and eventually starting a world war.

What if international nations did support Germany's population and helped rebuild the broken country, instead of cutting it off. Would that form of sharing and caring have prevented the war?


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Reply #22 on: October 31, 2012, 11:24:11 am
US Dollar is the global currency, don't you know? :money:



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Reply #23 on: October 31, 2012, 12:20:28 pm
US Dollar is the global currency, don't you know? :money:
No, country's have just made their own versions, like Australian Dollar and so on..

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Reply #24 on: October 31, 2012, 12:28:17 pm
US Dollar is the global currency, don't you know? :money:

It is accepted in more countries as currency than most, but still not "global" as not every country recognizes the US Dollar as a legal note.

When I think of global currency, I agree with JCS its a barter trade. Things like gold, silver, and virtually any other item of trade value. Barter trade was used in the older days as the only form of currency for example trading 1 sheep for 1 cow etc.



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Reply #25 on: November 01, 2012, 12:58:25 am
It would make sense to trade on something that is common everywhere... be it gold, silver or a cow. :P

A dollar, pound or euro are all just words that may come associated with bits of metal or paper, really.

The Marshallplan helped the majority of Europe a LOT, made sure the future would be bright. USA used this as leverage for an international trading position.
But also giving themselves authority to order countries who to tolerate and not. Enforcing the Truman doctrine in this case.
Germany obviously did not get a lot of financial support, which is also a reason why Hitler could claim such a huge amount of support from the population. Acting as a great leader, pointing out the 'bad guys', the ones who ruined Germany's structure, the ones who are to blame for all the suffering and poverty, the jews. This anger focussed on a scapegoat was the reason why Hitler could perform his plans of increasing Germany's living space and eventually starting a world war.

What if international nations did support Germany's population and helped rebuild the broken country, instead of cutting it off. Would that form of sharing and caring have prevented the war?

Apparently during the Treaty of Versailles after WWI and when the reparations were forced upon the losing nations, some of the key figures involved (the victors) had said that the charges on Germany were so severe that they would only rise up in 20 years or so to seek revenge.

They weren't wrong.


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Reply #26 on: November 01, 2012, 01:38:52 am
Apparently during the Treaty of Versailles after WWI and when the reparations were forced upon the losing nations, some of the key figures involved (the victors) had said that the charges on Germany were so severe that they would only rise up in 20 years or so to seek revenge.

They weren't wrong.

Yeah, never piss off Germany, that's a valuable lesson we've learned the hard way. :lol:


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Reply #27 on: November 01, 2012, 05:24:29 pm
Stay away from Litas, barbarians :@

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