Four shot dead in Colorado

[SugarD]

And any other weapon they get use will be less lethal than a gun.
An unarmed person can disarm a person with a knife, they cannot disarm a person with a gun, unless they have lightening fast reflexes and are like 1 inch apart which I doubt happens in mass killings, it's understandable that Americans do not want to have a gun ban as it's one of the main hobbies in the US, but unless you want to keep having mass murders it will have to happen..

1. Homemade pipebombs.
2. Chemicals.
3. A guy with a knife in a room full of children. I'm pretty sure it won't matter.

[Mikal]

1. Homemade pipebombs.
2. Chemicals.
3. A guy with a knife in a room full of children. I'm pretty sure it won't matter.

How many pipebomb, chemical attacks and mass stabbings do you hear of in the UK? I hear of none..
Only bringing the UK into it because it's the closest example I know of, of an non-violent country without guns and mass murders.

[SugarD]

How many pipebomb, chemical attacks and mass stabbings do you hear of in the UK? I hear of none..
Only bringing the UK into it because it's the closest example I know of, of an non-violent country without guns and mass murders.

I didn't bring the UK into it. You did.

[Mikal]

I didn't bring the UK into it. You did.

I know.. :poke:

[Jubin]

Go ahead and ban all guns. Even if you remove them all, people will still find another weapon to use. My point still stands.

Yes they will, but no other weapon need basically no training with being as deadly as guns are. Killing 4 grown men with a gun, not that difficult. Killing 4 grown men with a knife....good luck.

1. Homemade pipebombs.
2. Chemicals.
3. A guy with a knife in a room full of children. I'm pretty sure it won't matter.

The guy would have to know how to make an IED or which chemical is actually lethal and how to actually get those.

[SugarD]

Yes they will, but no other weapon need basically no training with being as deadly as guns are. Killing 4 grown men with a gun, not that difficult. Killing 4 grown men with a knife....good luck.The guy would have to know how to make an IED or which chemical is actually lethal and how to actually get those.

The Anarchist's Cookbook is not a myth. It is available all over the internet, despite being banned and highly illegal to own. Anyone can get the information from it.

[Mikal]

The Anarchist's Cookbook is not a myth. It is available all over the internet, despite being banned and highly illegal to own. Anyone can get the information from it.

You say all these mass murderers are 'ill', do you really think an ill person would realise he can find how to make a bomb on google?
To be honest Sugar I think you just try to make an answer for everything.

[SugarD]

You say all these mass murderers are 'ill', do you really think an ill person would realise he can find how to make a bomb on google?
To be honest Sugar I think you just try to make an answer for everything.

Actually, the average person is commonly aware that nearly anything can be found from an internet search. In fact, the news covered it years ago when Al Qaeda was posting videos about it online.

[Mikal]

Actually, the average person is commonly aware that nearly anything can be found from an internet search. In fact, the news covered it years ago when Al Qaeda was posting videos about it online.

Yes, but the average person doesn't have the guts to try to or assemble an explosive let alone use one, just face the fact that guns are bad and they need to go and stop beating round the bush.

[SugarD]

Yes, but the average person doesn't have the guts to try to or assemble an explosive let alone use one, just face the fact that guns are bad and they need to go and stop beating round the bush.

http://blogs.sacbee.com/crime/archives/2012/07/explosive-device-safely-removed-from-rocklin-parking-lot.html

[Mikal]

http://blogs.sacbee.com/crime/archives/2012/07/explosive-device-safely-removed-from-rocklin-parking-lot.html

I just can't even be bothered in arguing with you no more since nothing gets through.

[SugarD]

I just can't even be bothered in arguing with you no more since nothing gets through.

That happened in a major part of the city just months ago.

I have facts to back up my statements.

[Jubin]

http://blogs.sacbee.com/crime/archives/2012/07/explosive-device-safely-removed-from-rocklin-parking-lot.html

Whoa and look at that. No deaths.

[SugarD]

Whoa and look at that. No deaths.

Ya, because they caught it in time.

http://articles.latimes.com/1989-04-04/news/mn-1105_1_pipe-bomb
1989. This was long before the Anarchist's Cookbook or Google even existed.

[saberman]

Ya, because they caught it in time.

Yes, and how do you control a shooter that's just opened fire and injured / killed several people already? By the time you take out your own weapon a few are already injured / dead.