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Calls for UK to allow women in combat

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Reply #15 on: January 26, 2013, 09:01:45 pm
Aye, women can also be more deadlier than men in specific situations in war.
Exactly. Those with smaller bodies also have an advantage, as it makes them more stealthy and can help them move/fight faster.



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Reply #16 on: January 26, 2013, 09:52:15 pm
That is a stereotype. Women are capable of being just as strong as men, both mentally and physically. There are some women out there in the world that could crush us just by throwing us down, they are so strong. There are also women that have seen and done things most men themselves cannot even imagine or handle. Every person is unique. You can't judge everyone as a fact based on an opinion of a few.

Women have always been just as capable as men are. Just because most of the women you see traditionally are "family ladies" who don't work out and can't lift anything heavy doesn't mean they are all like that in this world. Even Law Enforcement and Firefighting shows their abilities compared to men quite well. I believe the U.S. Military even allows women to be Military Police...a job which in itself is very tough, dangerous, and requires a strong body and mind.
They are capable of being as strong as men but they have to work at it more as women are naturaly the weaker sex, it's not a stereotype it's a fact, yes women CAN be just as strong as men, men naturaly get more muscular during puberty where as women do not, if you can see what I'm getting at here.. This is because of human evolution, the women stayed at home in the cave or leather tent and looked after the kids, whilst the men chased cows round a field with a spear, sure my logic might suck here but you should get the point.

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Reply #17 on: January 27, 2013, 12:02:51 am
That is a stereotype. Women are capable of being just as strong as men, both mentally and physically.
Thats why most of the physical feat records are of men?

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Reply #18 on: January 27, 2013, 12:49:54 pm
Thats why most of the physical feat records are of men?
I'm sure there's already been tests for the military regarding strength tests against men and women. And who is likely to come out on top, the men. It's not a stereotype it's the fact of how male/female bodies are built and how they develop.



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Reply #19 on: January 27, 2013, 08:12:42 pm
Thats why most of the physical feat records are of men?
That is because women are hindered by the stereotype. Until the mid-to-late 1900's, women weren't even allowed to do a lot of things because of this stereotype. It's going to be a very long time, if ever, that we see as many women as men competing in such things.



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Reply #20 on: January 27, 2013, 08:18:38 pm
I actually see no problems with this as far as women are treated equally. Their positions should be decided by tests as it already happens for men.

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Reply #21 on: January 27, 2013, 08:21:56 pm
I actually see no problems with this as far as women are treated equally. Their positions should be decided by tests as it already happens for men.
Agreed.



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Reply #22 on: January 27, 2013, 08:22:52 pm
That is because women are hindered by the stereotype. Until the mid-to-late 1900's, women weren't even allowed to do a lot of things because of this stereotype. It's going to be a very long time, if ever, that we see as many women as men competing in such things.
Sadly, not really. Unless you want to fight nature, men are always dominating women, in accordance with humans and mammals. It's the fact that women cannot simply gain enough strength in their muscles due to their hormones being absolutely different to that of men. Women are not made to have that amount of testosterone, that is why women's strength will always be vastly inferior man's.

I absolutely agree, there may be women who are better than men, but, while consulting human physiology, if you make a man and a woman have exactly same amount of training for a year, man will ultimately come stronger.

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Reply #23 on: January 27, 2013, 09:10:27 pm
It is foolish that they did not allow this even before, considering the times we live in.

Besides, woman + period + gun =

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Reply #24 on: January 27, 2013, 09:21:38 pm
Sadly, not really. Unless you want to fight nature, men are always dominating women, in accordance with humans and mammals.
Wrong. There is a lot more female dominance in nature than people realize. Matriarchies exist all over in the animal kingdom.

Besides, woman + period + gun =
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Reply #25 on: January 27, 2013, 09:56:43 pm
In case of war, women should remain in the cities, creating ammunition and leading the cities. (Just like WW1 and WW2)



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Reply #26 on: January 27, 2013, 09:58:45 pm
In case of war, women should remain in the cities, creating ammunition and leading the cities. (Just like WW1 and WW2)
That was only done because of that same stereotype. They were the only people around.



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Reply #27 on: January 27, 2013, 10:00:15 pm
That was only done because of that same stereotype. They were the only people around.
I'm talking about total war. During total war a country's way of life, governing, economy so shortly said everything is about the war. This means that every man has to go to the frontline, unless handicapped. This leaves women behind to create ammunition, which is extremely vital.



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Reply #28 on: January 27, 2013, 10:04:51 pm
In case of war, women should remain in the cities, creating ammunition and leading the cities. (Just like WW1 and WW2)

You're still living in the first half of the 20th century?

You just need to test one's abilities, not just judge by the gender.

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Reply #29 on: January 27, 2013, 10:07:48 pm
I'm talking about total war. During total war a country's way of life, governing, economy so shortly said everything is about the war. This means that every man has to go to the frontline, unless handicapped. This leaves women behind to create ammunition, which is extremely vital.
I think you are missing the point of this topic. We are saying that women are just as capable in combat as men. Not all men and not all women are capable of fighting in war. The ones that should be on the front lines are the ones capable. The others should be staying home to run the things you mentioned. Judging them purely on gender is pointless, as every single person is different in this world.



 


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