Is this right?

[TheLegitHabibi]

I would like to remind ya'll, that this ain't a playground for a Admin VS Players match. Nor it is a discussion about how the owners spend money. *cough*

Actually, it is a Admin VS players topic. So back on topic, regarding the admin behavior on duty.

[Gmail]

Sure... in 7 years we have paid over Eur 10.000 to keep Argonath up. Yeah we are money hungry.
Now go back to your server where people pay money for VIP status and buy 'special' cars and houses with real life money, and sit there calling us money hungry because we do not have such things and you do not have thee skills to make enough without using real life money....

I played on a cops and robbers server where you could pay 5$ to have a hat on you untill you die.. so yeah.. thanks gandalf for not making dumb stuff like that..

[stantastic03]

I believe that both have concerns that need to be issued upon. I have had past issues with admins, and to be honest, i believe that an admin channel would be able to solve it. if there already is a channel, then admins need to figure their stuff out. but if not, then its understandable as to where the confusion happens. and yes, no one is perfect, but there is always ways to strive for perfection and if admins are willing to say, well no one is perfect, well then they shouldnt be admins. admins should be able to admit wen a mistake is made, not make excuses as to why it happened. it just seems like there are some admins that need to be looked into, but there are admins that always get the right way to handle any situation down. so yes, i feel both sides are right, but i also feel that there are ways to solve both sides of their problems.

[AndrewS]

Yep, the admin that forgave you should be kicked from the team.

Well , Thats make no sense . When a player scams me its ok admins forgave him But when i scam someone i should be banned . That confuses me .. Shall i try my luck and play on 1 mil bet ? if i won i wil ltake the money and if i lose nothing will happend thats what happend to me as there was someone scammed me before i scammed the 50k . admins didnt ban him they were in a good mood but when i scammed the 50k admins were in a bad mood so they banned me .Btw that admin you are talking about is not kicked yet ..

[Aiden.]

And Managers are coming online at forums but not looking in our unban requests why ?? ?

First of all we waited 2 weeks and now i am banned for a non-sense reason for advertising another server lol and i got banned on Argonath temp server and they are including temp server ban in real server help me ... And let me clear one thing here i didn't gave any kind of advertise in-game it was on Facebook it means out of game ....

[zater112]

Sure... in 7 years we have paid over Eur 10.000 to keep Argonath up. Yeah we are money hungry.
Now go back to your server where people pay money for VIP status and buy 'special' cars and houses with real life money, and sit there calling us money hungry because we do not have such things and you do not have thee skills to make enough without using real life money....

I know what server your talking about and if you knew how much they paid each year You would have big eyes.  Yes krisk could go ahead use all the 8.000USD every year, buying a new nice phone and shit.

Hes paying all the money earned from donations and yes i said 8.000 if you knew how much the server host is costing them you would have big eyes sir

So if you wanna talk. who is the money hungry person here.

[Eps_Smalls]

Can't agree more,plus that admins take actions on players before they hear the whole story,i mean if he sees someone attacking someone then he punishes him/her for deathmatching,but in fact they were rping a street fight.
Argonath needs more topics like this because most of new players think that admins are always right,but we all know that it's not true.

[stantastic03]

Well , Thats make no sense . When a player scams me its ok admins forgave him But when i scam someone i should be banned . That confuses me .. Shall i try my luck and play on 1 mil bet ? if i won i wil ltake the money and if i lose nothing will happend thats what happend to me as there was someone scammed me before i scammed the 50k . admins didnt ban him they were in a good mood but when i scammed the 50k admins were in a bad mood so they banned me .

how about you focus on urself. just because one person gets away with it, does not mean its ok to do it. i see ppl getting away with DM-ing, but you dont see me doing that do you? no, why? because im one of those few players who understand that rules r rules. if you try to get away with something, you might get caught. if you dont want to be banned, follow the rules

[Malik.]

I know what server your talking about and if you knew how much they paid each year You would have big eyes.  Yes krisk could go ahead use all the 8.000USD every year, buying a new nice phone and shit.

Hes paying all the money earned from donations and yes i said 8.000 if you knew how much the server host is costing them you would have big eyes sir

What's your goal? To take down Argonath? Well dude I think you aren't the first one and still Argonath is unharmed. So, please don't come here to give negative comments.

[AndrewS]

how about you focus on urself. just because one person gets away with it, does not mean its ok to do it. i see ppl getting away with DM-ing, but you dont see me doing that do you? no, why? because im one of those few players who understand that rules r rules. if you try to get away with something, you might get caught. if you dont want to be banned, follow the rules

''But you dont  see me doing that do you ? ''  I dont even know you .


Well who said one time ? i gave one example .. i had been scamed for more than 500k by many people which they were'nt punished by the admin team .

When i see that the admin team is not helping me to get back my money so i have to do what others do .

[Salmonella]

I think I left a post in this topic that I spent an hour on or so, and it's gone. Odd.

EDIT:

Nevermind, I left that post in another topic by the same author, which had some points that were the exact same :razz: :

http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=94874.msg1514706#msg1514706

[Gandalf]

I know what server your talking about and if you knew how much they paid each year You would have big eyes.  Yes krisk could go ahead use all the 8.000USD every year, buying a new nice phone and shit.

Hes paying all the money earned from donations and yes i said 8.000 if you knew how much the server host is costing them you would have big eyes sir

So if you wanna talk. who is the money hungry person here.

He is.
I know how much servers cost, and I know how we would improve things if we received USD 8000 in donations per year.
If you want to know: for $750 per month we can run 3 Xeon servers with 32Gb RAM and 4TB space in Raid1, and add a hardware Cisco firewall it dynamic IP routing to stop any DDOS attacks. or use 5 to 6 smaller servers.
This way we could add about 10 extra games, expand the site and forums and still have capacity extra.
So whatever he TELLS you he is paying, I would like to see him put up an honest financial report like we do.

[Gandalf]

I would like to remind ya'll, that this ain't a playground for a Admin VS Players match. Nor it is a discussion about how the owners spend money. *cough*

Actually, it is a Admin VS players topic. So back on topic, regarding the admin behavior on duty.

There is no use to discuss admin behaviour on forum. Every player who is punished might feel thay had a good reason to do what they did and try to make the admin look bad.
The diversity in the admin team is needed. If all admins would act as similar robots, it would make things far worse.
Now I do agree that admins should admit their mistakes. I try to give the example by admitting, as I am not perfect nor is anyone else. However it should not be limited to admins. Players should admit their mistakes and not try to lie and weasel their way out of it.
Similar is the question of unequal punishment. If I drive through a red light and get a warning, then you drive through the same light and get a ticket, it is not correct that you complain. You broke the law, you get a ticket and that someone else got a warning can depend on many circumstances.

[Aiden.]

And Managers are coming online at forums but not looking in our unban requests why ?? ?

First of all we waited 2 weeks and now i am banned for a non-sense reason for advertising another server lol and i got banned on Argonath temp server and they are including temp server ban in real server help me ... And let me clear one thing here i didn't gave any kind of advertise in-game it was on Facebook it means out of game ....

Please can i have answere of this Quote ...... ???

[Primus]

Please can i have answere of this Quote ...... ???

Answer : Patience