Argonath Is Not a TDM Server!

[Murt]

Hello SA:MP RPG Divison,

The latest days upon my return as a manager I've been quite shocked of how the regular players on SA:MP have acted. I've seen quite a lot of TDM events from regular players. It looks like the deathmatching rule needs a clarification for some of our oldest members to newest. Because the deathmatch ratio and non-role-play kills have been excessive and quite much.

What to do?

If you want too kill someone in-game you need to address your role-play reasons to kill them, else it'll be unclear for the victim why they die and of course unnecessary reports to admins. This contributes that staff members needs to investigate too many reports and some are left unanswered, moaning about deathmatching, flaming and more.

For example this new Mordor TDM event have been too much. I've been told by both parties during the Mordor "role-plays" that the military is protecting Mordor and the other party are attempting to break in. In this crossfire innocent players have been deathmatched by both parties. It clearly sounds as a big TDM. I'll actually tell you about two scenarios I've come across as an undercover admin and that I've had to sort out.

From military perspective: The military has guarded Mordor and killed any trespasser that have come their way. The problem here is that they role-play reasons of the kills haven't been addressed properly and as mentioned before there have been quite much reports regarding deathmatching. The victim has been unaware why he/she has died. The party that have committed the killings have told me they were protecting the area and they killed every trespasser. They thought it would be enough to say "Stop" then they could shoot. As you see a problem occurs here, the reason to kill isn't addressed properly. From the other perspective it is the same only that they are the "attackers".

Deathmatching is strictly prohibited and we'll enforce this rule as any other rule we enforce here on Argonath. But I'll clearly inform admins about this new "Mordor event" that is clearly out of hand now. This topic is not only regarding this, I've made the topic to clarify for everyone. If you wish to deathmatch, visit a deathmatch server, SA:MP RPG is not the right place.

I'll advice both parties that takes apart of this new "event" to play within the rules, else there will be consequences.

Regards,

Murt 

[Cyril]

I just want to add because I've seen it way too much :

- Someone rammed you? It doesn't give you the right to kill him
- Someone ignores you? It doesn't give you the right to kill him
- You are robbing someone and he doesn't want to give you anything or only a little amount of money is not a valid reason to kill him

[Aca]

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-Murt

[Cyril]

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-Murt

I spectate who I want. If you have problem with administration and conspiracy about witch hunting, feel free to write a mail to [email protected].

[JDC]

I'm not surprised it came to this. After all, the person who spearheaded the event was not even trustworthy himself.

Seems a lot of players need re-education on the difference between TDM and combat in roleplay.

As for those players with questionable punishment records, events like these are no reason for you to witch-hunt the admins. If you do not trust our helpers, leave this community.

[Murt]

Don't derail this topic in to something it is not. For Aca, if you wish to accuse someone, come with something that can strengthen your argument, but I guess you cannot. Else a report to [email protected] is enough.

If you wish to personally attack Cyril more, be sure I'll be there.

[Aca]

If you wish to personally attack Cyril more, be sure I'll be there.

No. I won't attack him more, I was just sayin'.

[Duel]

Wow, can't believe some people still have that type of attitude even when viewing this topic..

[Vincent_Corleone]

It's not my problem if some players are dumb and they don't understand or pretend that they don't understand ( in most cases ) why they were killed. To find out why they were killed you could simply ask the guy who killed them. Then decide whether the reason is valid or just DM.


You can't expect me to go like '' Hey, I'm killing you because bla bla bla.''

[[Rstar]Paul]

To all:

Instead of bringing out worthless arguments here, acknowledge the reminder and bring up some constructive criticism which is appropriate. 

[Mashgash]

It's not my problem if some players are dumb and they don't understand or pretend that they don't understand ( in most cases ) why they were killed. To find out why they were killed you could simply ask the guy who killed them. Then decide whether the reason is valid or just DM.


You can't expect me to go like '' Hey, I'm killing you because bla bla bla.''

Not my problem if you don't understand why I banned you. See the point?

[Murt]

Just stay on topic and discuss the matter.

[Vincent_Corleone]

Just stay on topic and discuss the matter.

Give us an example of how to inform the players we decided to kill. Thanks in advance.

[Kostas]

Its a fact that many wars between Families have lead into a constant TDM between them . I do not know anything about the Mordor TDM thing but what I surely know is that a new rule in the wars between the families(/gangs/group/mafias/or how you wanna call it) must be made . I my self have been a long time a member of a criminal group and a lot of time a member of the ARPD and SAPD . The situation is not under control at all . Lastly I think the right given to policemen to pop out Compats and such from the air is also very big , and the fact that many ARPD officers just kill anything yellow they see is also bad . I am talking about many TDM both between families and between cops and robbers . New rules must come and really fast
Post Merge: May 07, 2013, 04:13:11 pm

Give us an example of how to inform the players we decided to kill. Thanks in advance.

You dont have to inform them . Simply make it clear before killing them . As I remember in Argonath RP cant be forced [and thats the most abused rule I actually know] so either ask them if they wish to continoue the RP or simply dont end up with a death . Just give them a few punches , beat them up , but dont kill them

[AK47]

Force roleplay.