Imran Khan injured in fall from stage at rally in Pakistan

[Vladislav]

Vladislav; You know you've lost the argument when you blame someones grammar, or his sources.

Think what you want lol, this isn't about me trying to prove I'm smarter than anyone or vice versa - that's a child's game. All I said was people should form their OWN judgement of the person they're electing and be able to justify it without having to be influenced by some random source on the internet. Heck if I wanted I could have found 50 reasons why Pakistan needs Pervez Musharraf back with the click of a button does that make them valid reasons to vote for him? Because as good as they may sound I know if I were to say this to any member of the Pakistani community here I'd have shoes thrown at me and rightly so.

[Jellyfish]

Dude. I know you're a patriot. People love their countries. But I swear, as soon as I finish med college with a degree, I'm out of this place.

The salaries are too low, places in our country have like 4 hour power blackouts every 5 hours so that the electricity can be used in Gonvernment official buildings and they waste it by keeping the windows open and ACs on.

I live in karachi. I cant even f**king take my phone out in public without the threat of a mugging. The place I go for my A level bio tuitions, its so unsafe.. The other day they burnt a car outside!
Then these freaking MQM guys came and told us to close the whole place. They had guns and shit.
Few weeks ago my friend was outsude the building and some guy just comes to him puts a f**king gun on his kidney and takes his phone, car keys, wallet.

No matter what you end up saying, Pakistan as of today isnt a good country. Its not safe, salaries are very low, and what not.

I get my degree, ill go to states. Do some residency and start working my way to become a cardeologist.

And you kept telling me to move there :razz:
To be completely honest, it's the f**king MQM and the inefficient PPP that dug Karachi into that hole, and it won't be easy getting out. Pakistan in general isn't really f**ked up, I used to walk around my place at midnight, without a care in the world.

[TheLegitHabibi]

Think what you want lol, this isn't about me trying to prove I'm smarter than anyone or vice versa - that's a child's game. All I said was people should form their OWN judgement of the person they're electing and be able to justify it without having to be influenced by some random source on the internet. Heck if I wanted I could have found 50 reasons why Pakistan needs Pervez Musharraf back with the click of a button does that make them valid reasons to vote for him? Because as good as they may sound I know if I were to say this to any member of the Pakistani community here I'd have shoes thrown at me and rightly so.

Oh cmon! You cant come up with everything by yourself! I mean would you be getting a revelation of what Nawaz Sharif did during his time? Im pretty sure youll get thay from News, papers etc. So.. Of course one would usw those reasons?

If I were to come up with reasons myself, only thing ill have in mind is that Imran Khan is more physically fit and not fat like Sharif. Also I dont like Pervez' moustache so I wont vote for him.
Post Merge: May 10, 2013, 09:11:01 pmGod. My typos make me sound stupid .
*first world problem*
But im in a 3rd world country

[Declan]

I am from pakistan and i hope Imran Khan will  win the election and he will became primeminister hope we will get new pakistan............anyways here is now terroists that blast every day bomb in pakistan and eclectricity problem Btw here is also net problem i mean development of pakistan is going down,Tommorow is election God knows What will happen...

[Ritcher]

Imran and Nawaz both are great leaders but we had tried Nawaz Sharif he also did good in only 2 years but now its turn to give the chance to Imran and hope tomorrow there will be new pakistan....

[Declan]

Imran and Nawaz both are great leaders but we had tried Nawaz Sharif he also did good in only 2 years but now its turn to give the chance to Imran and hope tomorrow there will be new pakistan....

i think u r right Ritcher...

[Vladislav]

Oh cmon! You cant come up with everything by yourself! I mean would you be getting a revelation of what Nawaz Sharif did during his time? Im pretty sure youll get thay from News, papers etc. So.. Of course one would usw those reasons?

If I were to come up with reasons myself, only thing ill have in mind is that Imran Khan is more physically fit and not fat like Sharif. Also I dont like Pervez' moustache so I wont vote for him.

I don't know why this conversation is ending up here but let me just clear things up to you as to why I said what I said.
Copying and pasting something or just regurgitating what you read over the internet and not comprehending it in any way shows a lack of understanding of what Nawaz Sharif actually achieved and in that case that whole list is one of meaningless words that look nice. If someone is to vote for someone on that basis then that's very scary. I don't expect you or anyone to know Sharif or any other politician inside out - but clearly people like Nawaz have been around long enough and you've heard of them enough for you to know whether they deserve your vote over someone else or not. I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in saying I wouldn't feel comfortable in voting for someone that I didn't fully understand or knew nothing about apart from the fact he's in good physical shape or he has nice facial hair.

[TheLegitHabibi]

Exactly. He read them, understood them and believed them.
Therefore tried to explain them to you. But you say he's simply copy pasting, not comprehending, and not judging him himself but usomg other sources.
Its just a famous online quote.
You know you've lost the argument if you correct his grammar or blame the sources.

[Vladislav]

You know you've lost the argument if you correct his grammar or blame the sources.

Why do you assume the sole purpose of this thread is for me to "win" something?   Questioning the validity of his sources doesn't put me in the wrong - I said they could be fabricated, which they may as well have been and neither me or you would know this by just reading that list.

Therefore tried to explain them to you.

Please quote the part where he did this.

But you say he's simply copy pasting, not comprehending.

Yes, I am saying that and like I said before..

if I wanted I could have found 50 reasons why Pakistan needs Pervez Musharraf back with the click of a button does that make them valid reasons to vote for him?

These lists can make anyone look good, they don't mean shit unless they're weighing up both the pros and the cons.

[TheLegitHabibi]

All right Sir.
You win, gg.

Wish me luck in my A level exam on Monday. <3.

[Kalvin]

Vladislav, get your facts true again. Nothing was failed.
Taxi's were given all over the Pakistan to the poors. It was PML N who made long march for the Supreme Court of Pakistan and got them out of shit.
Is Imran Khan even muslim? Oh come on! You don't think that will effect his leadership? Do you even know that It's haram? Does Islam gives permission to marry a non muslim? Oh come on. Is that the change?
What the hell is she doing in Shaukat Khanam? I want a logical reason sir.

[TheLegitHabibi]

This discussion is becoming kind of... *cough* weird.
Everyone has their own opinion and we have no right to force them into believing anything else.
News was about a leader falling and the discussion is now political views and people you support which nobody in the community who isnt a Pakistani would understand. So lets drop it. :3

Lets talk about jelly and fishes. You like jelly or fish or both?

[Kalvin]

Agree with you James, lets leave it. Results will be out today anyway.

[Declan]

Agree with you James, lets leave it. Results will be out today anyway.

Not today i think..

[Kalvin]

Congratulations, Nawaz won