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Reply #135 on: May 20, 2013, 08:20:11 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_killer
THIS IS NOT IRL, THIS IS A GAME. IF THEY KILLED CIVILIANS THEY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN PUNISHEDM, LEARN THE FUCKING DIFFERENCES, I AM STARTING TO GIVE UP ALL HOPE ON YOU AS A PERSON



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Reply #136 on: May 20, 2013, 08:21:47 pm
As I said, I understand you. It was not what you had said earlier.

You cannot punish half of Argonath just because some people are trieng to make a non ending shootouts
Actually yes, yes we can.
It doesn't seem that way.

Anyway, you get it now, so it doesn't matter.

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Reply #137 on: May 20, 2013, 08:22:52 pm
Sugar , If you do really understand me as you earlier said , Why you'r not able to understand that what's going on isn't fair for us , Punish the ones that are trieng to make a non-ending shootouts , And let the others free, It's so easy.

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Reply #138 on: May 20, 2013, 08:23:55 pm
You just generalized an entire group over a single user. That is called stereotyping.

Ye man, wonder WHY he generalizes a whole group, and let me tell you a fact, it's not just one person.

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Reply #139 on: May 20, 2013, 08:29:21 pm
Please don't turn this into a generic cop v crim topic, good lord.



This topic is about either reiterating or changing the rule on the status of RHL-escaped suspects.

Here is my solution:
To Gandalf, my solution is this:
We should just leave it how it's always been, that suspects who run out their RHL but remain with active suspects are liable to be resuspected for aiding. Suspects in fight situations won't even run their RHL down anyway, and suspects in a group escape that run out their RHL can either dive out of the car and get away, or stay and risk themselves further to increase the group's overall chance of success in escaping together. That adds a level of control and choice to the situation, and makes it simpler for pursuing law enforcement to understand what they must do.

The scripted solution about shared RHLs also has merit.

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Reply #140 on: May 20, 2013, 08:31:59 pm
suspects who run out their RHL but remain with active suspects are liable to be resuspected for aiding

Agreed.

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Reply #141 on: May 20, 2013, 08:42:58 pm
Please don't turn this into a generic cop v crim topic, good lord.



This topic is about either reiterating or changing the rule on the status of RHL-escaped suspects.

Here is my solution:
The scripted solution about shared RHLs also has merit.
That is not a solution but a continuation of an undesired situation.

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Reply #142 on: May 20, 2013, 08:43:46 pm
THIS IS NOT IRL, THIS IS A GAME. IF THEY KILLED CIVILIANS THEY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN PUNISHEDM, LEARN THE f**kING DIFFERENCES, I AM STARTING TO GIVE UP ALL HOPE ON YOU AS A PERSON
That depends on whether it was deathmatching, or murder with a RP reason. I know you're aware of this.



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Reply #143 on: May 20, 2013, 08:44:54 pm
Sugar , If you do really understand me as you earlier said , Why you'r not able to understand that what's going on isn't fair for us , Punish the ones that are trieng to make a non-ending shootouts , And let the others free, It's so easy.
Exactly what we do by enforcing this. Those not interested in endless suspected level would leave already anyway.

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Reply #144 on: May 20, 2013, 08:48:27 pm
 1) "changing seats" you said ? What about the hunter/hydra all those HSP units chasing you on a single sultan ? Even a PD premier is faster than it ? Now, please tell me how am I supposed to change seats for gods's sake.

2) "jump out of the car" ? Who cares its a desert ? ARDP my friend, ARPD itself. We can test it anytime, they will /su you the moment they catch you. ARPD even sues for "aiding" while no criminal was around, you only rammed the officer's bike.

3) "Script RHL and make it same for everyone" ? What about those ballas there in GS9 sticking together ?

I actually support the idea to leave the script as it is.  Indeed you escaped, but was the RP about escaping ? What if a bank robbery happened, if you have the money, tell me would you jump out of the car ?

I'm saying it again.
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ARDP my friend, ARPD itself. We can test it anytime, they will /su you the moment they catch you.

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Reply #145 on: May 20, 2013, 08:53:03 pm
1) "changing seats" you said ? What about the hunter/hydra all those HSP units chasing you on a single sultan ? Even a PD premier is faster than it ? Now, please tell me how am I supposed to change seats for gods's sake.
Irrelevant as it does not sound like you have been escaping if you got them on your tail.
2) "jump out of the car" ? Who cares its a desert ? ARDP my friend, ARPD itself. We can test it anytime, they will /su you the moment they catch you. ARPD even sues for "aiding" while no criminal was around, you only rammed the officer's bike.
Admins my friend, admins can cancelsuspect and punish ARPD any time.


I actually support the idea to leave the script as it is.  Indeed you escaped, but was the RP about escaping ? What if a bank robbery happened, if you have the money, tell me would you jump out of the car ?

I'm saying it again.
The script is not changed, simple enforced to how it is intended.

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Reply #146 on: May 20, 2013, 08:53:48 pm
That depends on whether it was deathmatching, or murder with a RP reason. I know you're aware of this.
We are talking about cops and criminals, not criminals and civilians, are you still not aware of this after 10 pages?



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Reply #147 on: May 20, 2013, 08:54:42 pm
That is not a solution but a continuation of an undesired situation.

Well situations as these are sensitive because no matter how much we don't want a cops vs criminals situation one side will feel like It's not fair.

Regarding the RHL's... reading both "sides" of the topic... both are understandable, on one side criminals don't wish to leave their friends alone to waves and waves of police officers, while the other doesn't want a never ending chase/shootout, and It's ok.

My solution to this, which has many flawls, but IT IS something, after a RP that gets a group suspected is to gather all suspects in one car, and non suspects in another car, this way, non suspects get away, and suspects can evade more a less at the same time (as they were probably suspected at the same moment), hence not having the necessity of leaving their comrades behind.

That is what I usually organize my group members to do, to avoid situations like these.



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Reply #148 on: May 20, 2013, 08:57:19 pm
We are talking about cops and criminals, not criminals and civilians, are you still not aware of this after 10 pages?
You are again confusing criminals with suspects.



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Reply #149 on: May 20, 2013, 09:09:20 pm
You are again confusing criminals with suspects.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime ("Criminal" redirects here.)

Suspect - In the law enforcement jargon, a suspect is a known person suspected of committing a crime
Crime - Crime is the breaking of rules or laws for which some governing authority (via mechanisms such as legal systems) can ultimately prescribe a conviction.

See what I did there?



 


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