What to do when RHL expires

[Salmonella]

That is not a solution but a continuation of an undesired situation.

It doesn't have to be undesired. According to you, the problem is suspects going on 'endless' killing sprees against cops, right? Far from everyone does this, and for the people that do, there's the administration. It's easy to spectate the guy and check if roleplay is involved or if he's just shooting as soon as he sees cops. That's how I've done it for three years, and that's how I've taught newer admins to do it over the same period of time.

How you described the rules earlier will only cause for an even more undesired situation. I really believe it will encourage and discourage those things I named earlier, and aren't those the same problems we're facing in the first place? Yes, just amplified and emphasized.

The problem doesn't lie with the system and solution Panda described, it lies with a few players.

[SugarD]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime ("Criminal" redirects here.)

Suspect - In the law enforcement jargon, a suspect is a known person suspected of committing a crime
Crime - Crime is the breaking of rules or laws for which some governing authority (via mechanisms such as legal systems) can ultimately prescribe a conviction.

See what I did there?

By definition, a suspect is someone who is accused of a crime, but has not necessarily been deemed guilty or innocent.
By definition, a criminal is someone who seeks a career in crime.

[Salmonella]

By definition, a criminal is someone who seeks a career in crime.

Not necessarily, no. It's someone who's committed a crime, not necessarily seeking a career in crime.

[Gandalf]

For those who do not want to read back 11 pages...
Interesting how the largest amount of input is from players who are inactive or banned and there for reason from a situation of 6 months and more ago.

Current criminals blame it on everyone but them.

And apart from TonyBlaze nobody seems interested in bringing up a solution apart from leaving it as it was.

[Pandalink]

That is not a solution but a continuation of an undesired situation.

In what way specifically is the situation undesired? It seemed to work for ~5 years quite well, and only now has anyone raised it as an issue.

[SugarD]

In what way specifically is the situation undesired? It seemed to work for ~5 years quite well, and only now has anyone raised it as an issue.

3 of those 5 years were spent with people moaning on both sides over advantages and disadvantages.

[Pandalink]

3 of those 5 years were spent with people moaning on both sides over advantages and disadvantages.

That's criminals and cops, not suspects and cops as this topic is about.

[Salmonella]

Interesting how the largest amount of input is from players who are inactive or banned and there for reason from a situation of 6 months and more ago.

Goes to show who your true friends are in this community, Gandalf!

3 of those 5 years were spent with people moaning on both sides over advantages and disadvantages.

Moaning has always existed.

[SugarD]

That's criminals and cops, not suspects and cops as this topic is about.

Wrong, actually. People who roleplay career criminals were also in many of those complaint topics created over the years. Many of them were in mafias and gangs, too.

Moaning has always existed.

Not on the levels it exists today.

[JackWhite]

By definition, a suspect is someone who is accused of a crime, but has not necessarily been deemed guilty or innocent.
By definition, a criminal is someone who seeks a career in crime.

Wikipedia states otherwise

For those who do not want to read back 11 pages...
Interesting how the largest amount of input is from players who are inactive or banned and there for reason from a situation of 6 months and more ago.

I feel hit.

[Maxy]

The fact is : If you have lost your suspection level, you can't help them anymore and have to leave the RP.

yeah but the thing is that what you just said isn't even a rule, so.

[SugarD]

Wikipedia states otherwiseI feel hit.

1. Your definition of a suspect matches exactly what I said in different wording.
2. Your definition of a criminal was taken from "crime" via a redirect. It is not the definition of a criminal itself.

[Salmonella]

Not on the levels it exists today.

 

Yeah, okay man.

[Pandalink]

Not on the levels it exists today.

Yea... :roll:

[SugarD]

Yeah, okay man.

You of all people know exactly what I mean. You were around in MTA:VC and SA:MP's early days.