What to do when RHL expires

[Salmonella]

You were around in MTA:VC and SA:MP's early days.

That's true, I really don't have anything else to say to stuff like that than I did in my previous reply. 

[Maxy]

Since when has this even been a problem? Whenever I've been a driver in a car full of suspects, and my RHL runs out, I just got resuspected if I chose to stay in the car.

I don't really understand the issue here.

[diddeh]

You of all people know exactly what I mean. You were around in MTA:VC and SA:MP's early days.

Perhaps the reason behind that is it wasn't as many players in 2007 as it is now, correct me if I'm wrong.

[Pandalink]

You of all people know exactly what I mean. You were around in MTA:VC and SA:MP's early days.

Are you seriously suggesting that the debate between criminals and cops reached its peak right now, and not in, say, 2008-9? Because that's just not true.

Since when has this even been a problem? Whenever I've been a driver in a car full of suspects, and my RHL runs out, I just got resuspected if I chose to stay in the car.

I don't really understand the issue here.

Yea, I'd like to pose this to Gandalf. What is the issue here, specifically?

[SugarD]

Perhaps the reason behind that is it wasn't as many players in 2007 as it is now, correct me if I'm wrong.

When I say the amount of moaning, I'm not referring to the number of players. I'm referring the magnitude. Even some of the same players from those days exhibit much more of it than they used to.

Are you seriously suggesting that the debate between criminals and cops reached its peak right now, and not in, say, 2008-9? Because that's just not true.

That was in reference to the moaning in general, not that specific debate.

[Maxy]

When I say the amount of moaning, I'm not referring to the number of players. I'm referring the magnitude. Even some of the same players from those days exhibit much more of it than they used to.

I see what you did there

[Salmonella]

That was in reference to the moaning in general, not that specific debate.

The same goes for moaning in general. There used to be a lot more of it than there is now. Saying that's not the case equals having a bad memory or not wanting to face the truth.

[Gandalf]

yeah but the thing is that what you just said isn't even a rule, so.

Maxy? OMG Are you still alive.  :banana:

[Devin]

Must have broken out of Pandas basement finally. 

[Cyril]

yeah but the thing is that what you just said isn't even a rule, so.

If I said it, there were a reason.

[Salmonella]

If I said it, there were a reason.

Were there, now?

[Maxy]

If I said it, there were a reason.

I don't subscribe to that logic.

Maxy? OMG Are you still alive.  :banana:

Oh come on Gandalf, you know I crawl out of the woodwork every time there is an argument about criminals. :P

[Gandalf]

Are you seriously suggesting that the debate between criminals and cops reached its peak right now, and not in, say, 2008-9? Because that's just not true.
Yea, I'd like to pose this to Gandalf. What is the issue here, specifically?

The issue is simple. We offer suspect a way to lose their wanted level.
As you may remember our original solution was /confess, which led to cops camping outside every church.  :pop:
After it was removed, the only way out was to die or be jailed, and criminals rightfully complained against that, as they had no solution without losing something (money or weapons).
CBFASI created the  RHL solution where based on your crime it was possible to escape, and with every crime you did this would take a longer time.

So far no issue at all.

Over time things change as players try to find new ways to remain in a shootout. One currently popular method seems to be to remain as group in a car, regularly attracting the attention of cops. This means that as not all are involved in killing, some will have their wanted level lost.
Cops are not allowed to resuspect someone to increase the RHL. This means that unless the 'helper' kills a cop, he can not be resuspected and would if killed cause a fine. Allowing to resuspect would also defeat the purpose of losing the wanted level, we might remove the whole RHL as well.

This means we have to consider what the RHL actually is.
Like being jailed or dying, the RHL means and 'end of chase', and there for should be treated as such. When you manage to lose your wanted level as suspect, you have succeeded in running long enough and should no longer be chased.

And there is the catch...if you are in a group and the RHL is not equal, in theory you should leave the group just as if you were arrested or would die, leaving the others to be chased.
Now that would be very simple for admins to enforce. All that needs is one on cop duty who whenever he sees someone losing their wanted level spectates and ensures the player is removed from the group, by force if needed.
This might be our order for admins to do if we do not get presented a better solution. To find a better solution, that does not include re-suspecting as that is forbidden, this topic is created.

Unless you come up with something better, the guideline for admins as described above might come in to effect. And you would have yourselves to blame for it by not presenting alternatives.

[Kirgiz]

It's ridiculously hilarious how Argonath always chanted the plethora "We do not want to have jungle of rules", but by the end of the day there are always 2-3 additions to any rule there is.

[Cyril]

It's ridiculously hilarious how Argonath always chanted the plethora "We do not want to have jungle of rules", but by the end of the day there are always 2-3 additions to any rule there is.

That's false.. If there were every day always 2-3 additions, then we would have over 9000 rules