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Reply #90 on: May 27, 2013, 09:00:07 pm
What difference does that make? It doesn't matter what the religion is, they all equally have their flaws. I'm still trying t understand why you said the BBC should ban footage of Muslims putting down flowers and showing their respect, do you realise how stupid that sounds? Your hatred for this religion is built on you own ignorance and assumptions about things that you've no idea what you're even talking about.

Like I said, the opinions your expressing are just as wrong as those of the terrorists who did this. What do you expect to accomplish by stooping down to their level?
I DID NOT say they should ban it, I said they should stop intentionally getting Muslims to put flowers down just so they can record it, I mean seriously they had them all queued up waiting to be recorded, how many British people did they intentionally get to stand there and wait to be recorded? They still all pray to the god with the book which encourages mass slaughter of humans, and yes other religions do aswell, but when was the last time you heard of those other religions actually doing something like it? Where as the islamic religions do things like this on a daily bases, be it in their own country or someone elses.

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Reply #91 on: May 28, 2013, 04:42:11 am
I DID NOT say they should ban it, I said they should stop intentionally getting Muslims to put flowers down just so they can record it, I mean seriously they had them all queued up waiting to be recorded, how many British people did they intentionally get to stand there and wait to be recorded? They still all pray to the god with the book which encourages mass slaughter of humans, and yes other religions do aswell, but when was the last time you heard of those other religions actually doing something like it? Where as the islamic religions do things like this on a daily bases, be it in their own country or someone elses.

Islamic religions? It seems the more you speak the more you're exposing yourself of being just another ignorant Islamophobe. It seems you're enraged by the fact that there are actually a large majority of Muslim people out there who do not long for war and bloodshed, actually have a heart and felt sorrow after hearing of this brutal murder, i bet it makes your blood boil. Why should Muslim people not be recorded putting flowers down where Lee Rigby died? So people like you can accuse them as being heartless and without a conscience? How can you infer just by watching the television that the placing of flowers by the Muslims is staged or they're being told to do so by those filming them?

And if you seriously think killings in the name of religions other than Islam don't happen in the world anymore i wonder in which isolated corner of the Earth you dwell. Have you not heard about Anders Behring Breivik who killed and/or wounded 100+ people in Norway not so long ago? The Lords Resistance Army in Uganda who constantly kill and commit atrocities in the name of religion? The various "witch killings" that take place all over Africa? The massacre of Muslims in Burma? It would seem either this news doesn't reach wherever you may live or you just close your eyes to any murders that take place in the name of any other religion apart from Islam  :)


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Reply #92 on: May 28, 2013, 09:36:40 am
Islamic religions? It seems the more you speak the more you're exposing yourself of being just another ignorant Islamophobe. It seems you're enraged by the fact that there are actually a large majority of Muslim people out there who do not long for war and bloodshed, actually have a heart and felt sorrow after hearing of this brutal murder, i bet it makes your blood boil. Why should Muslim people not be recorded putting flowers down where Lee Rigby died? So people like you can accuse them as being heartless and without a conscience? How can you infer just by watching the television that the placing of flowers by the Muslims is staged or they're being told to do so by those filming them?

And if you seriously think killings in the name of religions other than Islam don't happen in the world anymore i wonder in which isolated corner of the Earth you dwell. Have you not heard about Anders Behring Breivik who killed and/or wounded 100+ people in Norway not so long ago? The Lords Resistance Army in Uganda who constantly kill and commit atrocities in the name of religion? The various "witch killings" that take place all over Africa? The massacre of Muslims in Burma? It would seem either this news doesn't reach wherever you may live or you just close your eyes to any murders that take place in the name of any other religion apart from Islam  :)
Anders Behring Breivik was because of political reasons, as for parts of Africa, they are a complete mess with people stabbing eachother for near to any reason, I'm not saying other religions do not commit these kind of atrocities, I'm simply saying that it should not be happening in modern and evolved countries such as the UK, a country where atheism is growing fast, when was the last time we heard of someone being cut up in the street because a Catholic got mad that people were insulting god? Thats right, I've never heard of any such instance, where as we constantly hear about Muslim extremists being arrested, like a few weeks ago when 5 Muslims were arrested under terrorism charges which they funded by using money from a Muslim charity in the UK, and like Wednesday when this happend, the 7/7 bombings, the twin towers (not in the UK of course) and what happend in Boston, I could go on but I have to go to work, thanks.

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Reply #93 on: May 28, 2013, 04:48:27 pm
Anders Behring Breivik was because of political reasons, as for parts of Africa, they are a complete mess with people stabbing eachother for near to any reason, I'm not saying other religions do not commit these kind of atrocities, I'm simply saying that it should not be happening in modern and evolved countries such as the UK, a country where atheism is growing fast, when was the last time we heard of someone being cut up in the street because a Catholic got mad that people were insulting god? Thats right, I've never heard of any such instance, where as we constantly hear about Muslim extremists being arrested, like a few weeks ago when 5 Muslims were arrested under terrorism charges which they funded by using money from a Muslim charity in the UK, and like Wednesday when this happend, the 7/7 bombings, the twin towers (not in the UK of course) and what happend in Boston, I could go on but I have to go to work, thanks.

Breivik himself said that he saw himself as a "21st century crusader" battling against Islam in Europe. He like you was fed up of the mass influx of Muslims in Europe, something that obviously threatened him in some way and influenced him in committing an act of terrorism. Now just because you and him have the same ideas about Muslims emigrating to your countries dare I suggest that you might go out and do the same thing? No because it takes way more than just a little idea or piece of text to spark someones mind to do such a thing.

And I found it funny how you just brushed off Africa as if the crimes in the name of Christianity or any other religion are any less of a crime than those that take place in our "civilised" countries.

I'm simply saying that it should not be happening in modern and evolved countries such as the UK

Right, lets act like knife/gun crime doesn't already exist in the UK or other "civilised" countries in the Western world, for reasons that are not religiously-fuelled. Before the murder in Woolwich and the Boston Bombing the worlds eyes were all on the US because of psychopaths shooting up schools, ex-cops shooting up their colleagues and their families and leading cops on a large man hunt, incompetent security guards killing young boys etc. As for the UK, if the two people who killed Lee Rigby weren't Muslim men this would have more than likely just ended up another statistic amongst the already alarming knife crime incidents that have occurred in places like London, Manchester, Birmingham. Not even you would be able to justify pointing fingers at the Muslims for all these instances.

like a few weeks ago when 5 Muslims were arrested under terrorism charges which they funded by using money from a Muslim charity in the UK

Once again you're either misinformed or are trying to fabricate nonsense as you go along to prove that Muslims openly and gladly advocate terrorism. These men didn't just approach a charity and ask them for money so that they could fund their terrorist plot. They used deception by going door to door in different neighbourhoods and asking for a little financial contribution towards a Mosque they were building either in the UK or abroad. They used this approach because they know that Muslims are generally sympathetic to the idea of building a place of worship and its seen as a great deed.


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Reply #94 on: May 29, 2013, 02:52:11 pm
As for the UK, if the two people who killed Lee Rigby weren't Muslim men this would have more than likely just ended up another statistic
The fact that this was a terrorist attack has been the reason for all the media attention.

Post Merge: May 30, 2013, 09:01:06 pm
Update:

A man has appeared in court charged with murdering soldier Lee Rigby in Woolwich, south-east London.

A handcuffed Michael Adebowale, 22, spoke only to confirm his name and address during the short hearing at Westminster Magistrates' Court. An armed convoy escorted the suspect to and from Westminster Magistrates Court, as Matt Prodger reports. He was remanded in custody and will appear at the Old Bailey on Monday.

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It doesn't make sense to me why they get a police escort to prison only to confirm their name and then go back. To me it's a simple waste of taxpayer's money for something that we already know.



 


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