The Illuminati/MKULTRA

[Teddy]

Haven't i provided credible sources on the first page? It's there to be looked at and watched. Most are from Celebrities from the entertainment industry themselves

I have actually, I've known about this before. I had a relative who was a freemason, my brother-in-laws father was a Knights Templar. The Illuminati was real. It was very real, do you even know with out looking who created it? Do you know why? Do when you know what happened?

Think about it buddy, really think about it. If this secret group was SECRET why the hell would all these symbols exist? That isn't very secret, I guess the club house had the wrong secret manual or something.. The thing is a hoax, it was a hype that sprouted in 2009 when and bunch of people got bored and took to Google Images to find connections, it is really time to move on. Groups like the freemasons, and Knights Templar are two groups that do still exist but are often center of conspiracy why?

Here is why. People are scared of the unknown. The things we don't know about, scares us. It makes us feel insecure, vulnerable, alone, and weak.  Some of us don't care, we let the unknown be the unknown and think we're better off not knowing. Others draw lines where the lines shouldn't be drawn. Thinking outside the box is one thing, but virtually everything can be connected. The number 13? a god damn triangle? A fucking eye? Are you kidding me.
That triangle is Fibonacci, virtually EVERYTHING can equate to it. Triangles make up dimensions, 2D and 3D games often use Triangles to generate the game world and meshs because you can virtually render anything in game worlds or real worlds with small enough triangles.

As for the Eye of Providence, the eye was part of  Egyptian Myths and was considered the all-seeing-god. A god who watched over the people. This time period would be THOUSANDS of years before the illuminati even existed, before Bavaria was a place, and way before Weishaupt bloodline even existed, never mind himself. The eye also includes a triangle in most Egyptian carvings.

The number 13, often considered a sign of bad luck. In history it is most noted among secret groups, but not the Illuminati but rather the Knights Templar, and also witchcraft. Dates that date back again far before the Illuminati was founded. In astrology there are thirteen lunar months in a year.  13 is also a Fibonacci number.

Credible sources would be not youtube, not some guy who does more drugs than any one in this topic combined, and not a bunch of images off Google Images. Find me legitimate proof from a site with some reputation for legitimacy, accuracy, and factual sources then I'll believe it. I'm not denying that they don't exist either, as I said some of us just ignore the unknown. I don't dig deep for the truth. I have spoken to the man who was a Knights Templar before about the Templar, though, he wouldn't say much.. you'll find these groups are just people. We are all people, humans, and we all have a contribution to society regardless if that be a good one or bad one.

At the end of the day, you will sleep and you will raise again in the morning. Belive what you know for sure, and screw everything else. Losing sleep ever a group that may or may not exist is foolish. If it did, what are you gonna do about it? Nothing, you'll continue your life by doing the same shit everyday, you'll grow up and eventually die. Welcome to life kiddo, the roses don't really smell good but if you wanna smell them go for it. Life isn't a fairy tale. I know telling you they don't exist won't change your mind.

I will tell you this, if you really want to know there is resource available not on websites but rather in print. Old, and I mean old books and letters at the United States Library of Congress that, might, inspire you to dig further with some accuracy. I've read about groups that existed, similar to the masons and Illuminati that were around in the revolution. You might even find something that'll convince everyone they do exist. Just an idea.

[Driggz]

I have actually, I've known about this before. I had a relative who was a freemason, my brother-in-laws father was a Knights Templar. The Illuminati was real. It was very real, do you even know with out looking who created it? Do you know why? Do when you know what happened?

Think about it buddy, really think about it. If this secret group was SECRET why the hell would all these symbols exist? That isn't very secret, I guess the club house had the wrong secret manual or something.. The thing is a hoax, it was a hype that sprouted in 2009 when and bunch of people got bored and took to Google Images to find connections, it is really time to move on. Groups like the freemasons, and Knights Templar are two groups that do still exist but are often center of conspiracy why?

Here is why. People are scared of the unknown. The things we don't know about, scares us. It makes us feel insecure, vulnerable, alone, and weak.  Some of us don't care, we let the unknown be the unknown and think we're better off not knowing. Others draw lines where the lines shouldn't be drawn. Thinking outside the box is one thing, but virtually everything can be connected. The number 13? a god damn triangle? A fucking eye? Are you kidding me.
That triangle is Fibonacci, virtually EVERYTHING can equate to it. Triangles make up dimensions, 2D and 3D games often use Triangles to generate the game world and meshs because you can virtually render anything in game worlds or real worlds with small enough triangles.

As for the Eye of Providence, the eye was part of  Egyptian Myths and was considered the all-seeing-god. A god who watched over the people. This time period would be THOUSANDS of years before the illuminati even existed, before Bavaria was a place, and way before Weishaupt bloodline even existed, never mind himself. The eye also includes a triangle in most Egyptian carvings.

The number 13, often considered a sign of bad luck. In history it is most noted among secret groups, but not the Illuminati but rather the Knights Templar, and also witchcraft. Dates that date back again far before the Illuminati was founded. In astrology there are thirteen lunar months in a year.  13 is also a Fibonacci number.

Credible sources would be not youtube, not some guy who does more drugs than any one in this topic combined, and not a bunch of images off Google Images. Find me legitimate proof from a site with some reputation for legitimacy, accuracy, and factual sources then I'll believe it. I'm not denying that they don't exist either, as I said some of us just ignore the unknown. I don't dig deep for the truth. I have spoken to the man who was a Knights Templar before about the Templar, though, he wouldn't say much.. you'll find these groups are just people. We are all people, humans, and we all have a contribution to society regardless if that be a good one or bad one.

At the end of the day, you will sleep and you will raise again in the morning. Belive what you know for sure, and screw everything else. Losing sleep ever a group that may or may not exist is foolish. If it did, what are you gonna do about it? Nothing, you'll continue your life by doing the same shit everyday, you'll grow up and eventually die. Welcome to life kiddo, the roses don't really smell good but if you wanna smell them go for it. Life isn't a fairy tale. I know telling you they don't exist won't change your mind.

I will tell you this, if you really want to know there is resource available not on websites but rather in print. Old, and I mean old books and letters at the United States Library of Congress that, might, inspire you to dig further with some accuracy. I've read about groups that existed, similar to the masons and Illuminati that were around in the revolution. You might even find something that'll convince everyone they do exist. Just an idea.

I try to make myself believe its not happening. I try to find proof it's not real, and there aren't people who are as disgusting as they are said to be.

I can't say I'm 100% right. I always could be wrong and hope that I am. But what if I'm not? I want to prepare myself.

It's like the opposite of skull and bones. They don't deny it exists, but what they do is secret.
Illuminati members will say it doesn't exist. But there are people who actually admit it and talk about it, so word gets around and people talk about it. But they still deny it, and always will.
The whole NWO thing is something I can't find myself to believe will happen. It's hard to believe a small group of old men will depopulate the world by 85%.

But I do believe that there is an elite group who controls "the world" so to speak. If you think about it, with enough money, you can make ANYTHING happen.

Its their agenda that I'm praying to god doesn't exist, or will never happen

Also I highly doubt that she would make this up. It just would be foolish for her to waste her time on this. She was threatened almost in a daily basis, and her twitter Facebook and blog were removed because she began exposing them.
http://www.endalldisease.com/breaking-celebrity-tila-tequila-exposes-the-illuminati-2/

[Teddy]

You can find just as much proof as it isn't real. The problem is you look at the evidence to disprove the connections with the mental state that it does exist. As I stated, make sure the disproving sources are legitimate. There is also an equal number of bogus "disproving" sources as there is proving sources.

One of the common "conspiracies"  is that M.J was killed by the Illuminati to prevent him from telling the world during his up coming concert. If this is true, why is JayZ around? Taylor Swift? Rhiana? Everyone else? Think about it, really think about. If they are hinting off the clues, why aren't the gone.

"Never let the future disturb you. You will meet it, if you have to, with the same weapons of reason which today arm you against the present. "

  Marc Aurel who was a Roman leader and Templar said that. It means a lot. Do not worry about the future. If there was an inevitable end, so be it. 60% of that 85% or so wouldn't believe it until the end thus you shouldn't really stand against them anyways.

I do think it is easier to find proof they don't exist, given the points I made above about the "Symbols" they have. Most of them were around long before the Illuminati. Really do research them.  Fibonacci, Eye of Providence. When reading, don't think of Illuminati as you'll be more open to seeing the truth and not have a biased mindset. Then, after, think about the Illuminati and compare the legitimacy of the sources. It wouldn't really be hard.

[Driggz]

One of the common "conspiracies"  is that M.J was killed by the Illuminati to prevent him from telling the world during his up coming concert. If this is true, why is JayZ around? Taylor Swift? Rhiana? Everyone else? Think about it, really think about. If they are hinting off the clues, why aren't the gone.

From my understanding, MJ was killed not only because he couldnt keep quiet, but because he was worth more dead than alive. To these people its all about money, and when he died, his records sold more than 30 million copies.
And the Jackson family made like $240 million from the estate. Now thats what I hear. Theres still something about this theory that I believe is complete B.S.

As well as this from LaToya Jackson.
 Michael Jackson's Death - The Truth Revealed (MUST SEE)
 
 As for the JayZ thing, they are merely just puppets for the illuminati. There might be some reason why they "need" to make these symbolisms in the videos. But MJ was going to actually expose the Illuminati themselves.

[Matt Murdock]

What's this doing in the news section.  :poke:

[Teddy]

Yeah Driggz, that story is totally crap. M.J was killed because he is worth more dead than alive. It is a common truth about famous singers, once they "wash out", when they die they get a huge spike in record sales. Look at Tupac, Deathrow records still has hundreds of tracks recorded by Tupac before his death and they will for years to continue release these onto albums. While, there is no doubt if Tupac was still alive he'd still be a massive success.. that is obvious.

I'll admit, it can be easy to see something and believe what we are told when we don't know the other side of the story. The fact is we don't know the other side of the story. Do you really think, if there was a group of people wanting to control the world they'd spend millions of dollars to get some random black kid from the Bronx to rap some music and flash triangles every now and then? Does that really make any sense? Listen to his music, which is good, what could they possibly do with it to take control? Think about it, think how stupid and foolish it sounds.

Some girl from the Bahamas, why?

Some girl from Tennessee with a dream of becoming a star, big whop Nashville is filled with them. Walk into a club in Nashville and ask who has a demo tape for a record and half the people will flock to you. What could they possibly accomplish?

Why would they use an all seeing eye? What do they see? A fked up world with a bunch of people who live their lives in no complexion or difference?

Why 13? That number has not direct correlation with them anyways.

Why a triangle? Is it because of the conceptual dimensions?

If they wanted to share their message, why don't they just go on CNN?

Think about how foolish it all sounds, it sounds like a plot to a shitty b-rated movie. well.. actually sounds like Assassins Creed but then again they are based on the "secrecy" of the Templar Knights and the Assassins Brotherhood (could resemble Nizari which were a real brotherhood of Assassins). In a more direct sense, why all of this? I could think of much better ways to achieve a secret goal of whatever. They aren't very good at it. I mean, there is according to many "sources" 6,000 Illuminati people. And there is about 6,000,000 freemasons... why is it you can't find any "secret messages" from the masons in modern day? Because they are actually secret, and do exist. Sure you can find symbols of Masonry in lots of things because it was masons who created it other than that. Why...
 

[TiMoN]

My theory is that and will save us.

Also, you should wear sunglasses.

Edit: Happy 1337 posts.

[James_Webb]

The Illuminati killed Tupac.
The Illuminati killed Michael Jackson.
The Illuminati killed everybody not following their rules.

Time for us to kill the Illuminati.

Illuminati killed Martin Luther King if the conspiracy theory is true;
- CIA killed Marin Luther king
- CIA = Cooperation with Illuminati.

[Gmail]

I still have no idea what the illuminati is
*cough*
*looks at the man holding a gun to his head*
The illuminati doesn't exsist, silly

[Bundy]

Problem solved, lock this topic.

[James_Webb]

Problem solved, lock this topic.

Hahahahaha :p

[Jubin]

But there are people who actually admit it and talk about it, so word gets around and people talk about it. But they still deny it, and always will.

People talk a lot of things. A lot of Mid-West American trailer women tell you that they have been taken by aliens and are pregnant with alien babies. A lot of people tell you that they are the reincarnation of Jesus of Nazareth. In the future your neighbor will tell you that he is able to pleasure his wife all night long. I've heard that Fantastic Four is a documentary. Just because people tell stuff doesn't make it true.
Yes Freemasonry is real. Do they control the rest of the world? No! How do I know that? Look around you, look how the world works. They tried to put a lot of nations under one rule as EU, now the Brits want out and they probably will get it. Maybe even Scotland will be on it's own (although I doubt it). Serbia probably won't ever recognize Kosovo as independent. Georgia will lose South Ossetia and Abhasia. Israel well you know. Basque want their own country and secede from Spain. Transnistria to get away from Moldova.
Now tell me, does this look like a world that is under one single rule. Under one secret government?

PS: I wear a pedant that is a pentagram that has a Baphomet head in it