Missouri bill would void Federal law

[Dillon]

Missouri bill would void federal gun laws
http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/11/us/missouri-gun-laws-challenge/index.html


I really think this is a bad idea and further going to say pointless, but the way it would impact Federal power is where this really gets interesting.

[eymas]

They're nuts enough to allow machine guns to citizens, but to arrest federal agents as well for taking them away?

Thereby arresting him for murder but also getting arrested for taking the gun away from him?

What kind of a juxtaposition is this?

[Mikal]

'Merica.

Fucking insane, they shouldn't have BB guns, nevermind machine guns.

[ElMartu]

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this shouldn't be legal i think

states laws can't go against the national laws

[Jubin]

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this shouldn't be legal i think

states laws can't go against the national laws

We'll whose gonna go enforce those federal law, the agents?

[EliteTerm]

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this shouldn't be legal i think

states laws can't go against the national laws

10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

Gun control laws that the Federal Government passed & any bills that goes against the 2nd Amendment is already unconstitutional (illegal), as evidenced by District of Columbia vs. Heller with the Supreme Court ruling in favor 5-4 for the individual's right to bear arms.

Thereby arresting him for murder but also getting arrested for taking the gun away from him?

Breaking even the simplest of laws involving firearms, and you lose that right. It doesn't let a 'murderer' be free because of that.

[[SE]Dr_Pepper27]

An unconstitutional law is not a law at all. Enforcing newer gun laws would be a breach of the oath they took as officers to protect the Constitution.

A lot of states also have similar laws to Missouri in terms of voiding gun laws. The south and west(California excluded of course.) mainly are doing this. Citizens in the state of Colorado(west) are actually rising up against their not-so-bright politicians and forcing them to back down on gun control. They have also threatened to form a new state. Most Americans aren't going to give up their Constitutional rights. (Well, the smart ones anyways)

[EliteTerm]

An unconstitutional law is not a law at all. Enforcing newer gun laws would be a breach of the oath they took as officers to protect the Constitution.

A lot of states also have similar laws to Missouri in terms of voiding gun laws. The south and west(California excluded of course.) mainly are doing this. Citizens in the state of Colorado(west) are actually rising up against their not-so-bright politicians and forcing them to back down on gun control. They have also threatened to form a new state. Most Americans aren't going to give up their Constitutional rights. (Well, the smart ones anyways)

List of States that is working on reversing the federal gun laws:

In addition to nullifying the federal laws, The BOLD States has Constitutional Carry Laws, UNDERLINED States are introducing it to the floor.

    Alabama
    Alaska
    Arizona
    Arkansas
    Colorado
    Georgia
    Idaho
    Illinois
    Indiana
    Iowa
    Kansas
    Kentucky
    Louisiana
    Maine
    Maryland
    Michigan
    Minnesota
    Mississippi
    Missouri
    Montana
    Nebraska
    New Hampshire
    New Mexico
    North Dakota
    Oklahoma
    Oregon
    Pennsylvania
    South Carolina
    South Dakota
    Tennessee
    Texas
    Utah
    Vermont
    Virginia
    Washington
    West Virginia
    Wyoming

[[SE]Dr_Pepper27]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/11/pro-gun-control-democrats-ousted-in-colorado-recall/

Two of Colorado's democrats calling for gun control booted. Good for Colorado.

[Antonio.]

I guess it was a good idea moving from there a couple of years ago. :P

[Leon.]

Supremacy Clause. Federal law trumps State law. Up to the Federal gov. if they wanna pursue it or not.

[[SE]Dr_Pepper27]

Supremacy Clause. Federal law trumps State law. Up to the Federal gov. if they wanna pursue it or not.

Realistically, the only thing they can do is cut road funding/building. Same thing they did to Wisconsin when they didn't want to change their drinking age. Usually pretty effective, but we'll see what happens.

[Cofiliano]

We'll whose gonna go enforce those federal law, the agents?

Yeah, if they can't then the other federal arms force- Military.

Constituional rights my ass...The 2nd Amendment is one of a kind among worldwide constituions and has no place in it, cause carrying/possesing weapons isn't something that Constituions should determent, yet simple laws.
Constituions are legal acts that define the most important social and political system of ruling in a country, together with most important human rights and freedoms, not should you or should you not own weapons.

Its like having a parking rule implemented in a country's constituion.

[Dillon]

Yeah, if they can't then the other federal arms force- Military.

Constituional rights my ass...The 2nd Amendment is one of a kind among worldwide constituions and has no place in it, cause carrying/possesing weapons isn't something that Constituions should determent, yet simple laws.
Constituions are legal acts that define the most important social and political system of ruling in a country, together with most important human rights and freedoms, not should you or should you not own weapons.

Its like having a parking rule implemented in a country's constituion.

Besides the fact they are not related at all, maybe in defense of the people having the right to absolutely stand up to anyone even their own governments should be a constitutional right but you will never be able to see it like this.

[Cofiliano]

Not sure did I understand you correctly, but you're justifying its existance in the Constituion, so people could defend against their own rogue Government?