9/11 Wasn't Real?

[darksword31]

Obama, just like Bush, are all puppets of the Elite, they are just there to take the pressure from people, so they think that they are the highest in administration, without looking through.

[Leon.]

what

[Pandalink]

what

[Dillon]

Another point I forgot to mention earlier, the way the building came down is clearly another proof there were explosive material being used.. Controlled demolition with fake planes CGI/Hologram whatever* to cover it up..

I don't know if you got the memo but this happened in 2001.
you know this 2001


To say CGI is incredibly stupid to say hologram I don't have such words to describe such idiocy, do we even have proper holograms today? Nope, we do however have CGI but back then it was shit and you think the hole in the building just magically appeared and cameras like they had back then were crap and garbage to todays and todays can not take a good image of CGI because CGI is based on a computer where it stays. I need to buy a new desk now, because it's all broken up because of how many times I have facedesked at what you said here OH AND ONE MORE THING since when did you learn about physics, explosives, demolition please show me the degrees or at least give me sustainable proof that you have any whatsoever knowledge in this field.

[Leon.]

if we just had fucking HD cameras when 9/11 happened there would be much less questions

[Dillon]

if we just had f**king HD cameras when 9/11 happened there would be much less questions

Not even true just look at the Boston bombing but I suppose the argument that it was a surprise attack and didn't happen over hours is reasonable. But what annoys me is people who have none to barely no actual education in the field they are discussing. And CGI/Holograms?!? one of these things we have yet to properly perfect yet....

[Leon.]

We like to think we can make equations out of nature's every power that we can simply plug into simulations...

[Cofiliano]

Wait, some people still think it was faked?

You've probably missunderstood my point::

9/11 as an event was real, when it comes to WTC, altough many experts claim that in order for building to collaps like that, it needs to be detonated on specific places around those buildings in order to collaps.

the point is the story about 9/11 wasn't real at least the one served by the US Administration.

But on the other side, Pentagon is a completly different story, and everyone should more focus on that then on WTC.

[BKP]

Surely one of them would have done something about it?

Yeah, and he probably got his 'whistle blown' as you say

[Leon.]

But on the other side, Pentagon is a completly different story, and everyone should more focus on that then on WTC.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/debunking-911-myths-pentagon

I will never stop to be impressed by the knowledge some humans claim to possess. I advise you to read a lot more about 9/11 before you express your opinion because the videos you posted are shit.

Loose Change

The above documentary is quite good, however it is also filled with crap time to time but the thoughts of the creator are based on re-search. Compared to your post and the links to youtube videos Loose change can be qualified as a damn good documentary with several good and proven points.

Ah, Loose Change. The single most popular 9/11 conspiracy film, and the primary reason why so many people have been brainwashed into believing such absurd claims and into ignoring any rebuttals. Here's a debate video with full transcript included below (in case you're like me and don't like videos very much), which includes the following people:
Dylan Avery, writer and director of "Loose Change."
Jason Bermas, researcher for "Loose Change."
James Meigs, editor-in-chief of Popular Mechanics. Part of the editorial team that produced "Debunking 9/11 Myths: Why Conspiracy Theories Can’t Stand Up to the Facts."
David Dunbar, executive editor of Popular Mechanics. Part of the editorial team that produced "Debunking 9/11 Myths: Why Conspiracy Theories Can’t Stand Up to the Facts."

http://www.democracynow.org/2006/9/11/exclusive_9_11_debate_loose_change
The above debate also covers the Pentagon. I found this debate to be one of the most interesting sources of claims from BOTH sides of the argument. Definitely worth the read/watch. One quote in particular that stood out to me because of how true it is...
"You know, this is a wonderful example of how conspiracy theories work. Any time there’s a little bit of doubt, a little bit of area where we don’t know everything, then the answer immediately is, well, someone must have blown it up. It’s a form of argumentation that’s also used by creationists. If they can find one little gap in the evolutionary record, they say evolution’s a hoax[...]"

Please take some time to check the following links as well. Pretty sure no one will check out any links I post though, because they'd rather maintain that they're 100% right without taking a look at both sides than hear it out and possibly have to admit that they were wrong... it's okay, it's only natural to want to stay right, even if it means steering clear of rationality, reason, and logic.
http://www.911research.wtc7.net/reviews/loose_change/index.html
^point-by-point critique of Loose Change.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2007/feb/06/comment.film
"The next evident flaw is that the plot they propose must have involved tens of thousands of people. It could not have been executed without the help of demolition experts, the security firms guarding the World Trade Centre, Mayor Giuliani (who hastily disposed of the remains), much of the US air force, the Federal Aviation Administration and the North American Aerospace Defence Command, the relatives of the people "killed" in the plane crashes, the rest of the Pentagon's staff, the Los Alamos laboratories, the FBI, the CIA, and the investigators who picked through the rubble.

If there is one universal American characteristic, it is a confessional culture that permits no one with a good story to keep his mouth shut. People appear on the Jerry Springer Show to admit to carnal relations with their tractors. Yet none of the participants in this monumental crime has sought to blow the whistle - before, during or after the attacks. No one has volunteered to tell the greatest story ever told."

[TheRock]

I don't know if you got the memo but this happened in 2001.
you know this 2001


To say CGI is incredibly stupid to say hologram I don't have such words to describe such idiocy, do we even have proper holograms today? Nope, we do however have CGI but back then it was shit and you think the hole in the building just magically appeared and cameras like they had back then were crap and garbage to todays and todays can not take a good image of CGI because CGI is based on a computer where it stays. I need to buy a new desk now, because it's all broken up because of how many times I have facedesked at what you said here OH AND ONE MORE THING since when did you learn about physics, explosives, demolition please show me the degrees or at least give me sustainable proof that you have any whatsoever knowledge in this field.

I wont even bother to reply fully, do your research on visual effects on last generations/ages and you might find an answer Also be aware that there are still tons of technology produced but never released to public, after all you might get what I meant by Hologram/CGI (Not meaning at all) but at visual effects.

I'll just leave this here; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Henry_Pepper

[TheGreasyChopper]

 Trough the years many conspiracy theorists came up with many theories about America's worst attacks. Pearl Harbor for example. The President and his high ranks knew about the Japanese Imperial Navy approaching Hawaii, but did not warn them. But it's a fact, the United States was attacked and recieved hundreds of casualties. Same happened with the World Trade Center. Too much things happened that lead to people doubting the legitimacy of the official Terrorist Attack story...But we will never know, unless a US President releases info in the future or whatever. 
 Face it, none of us can know the exact truth. Some theories might be right, but you can't be sure. Let's just accept the fact that innocent people died. The fact that the story ain't so buyable is there, but for f's sake, it's been twelve years already. "9/11 - Never Forget" does not mean never forget about the victims and the firemen who sacrificed themselvs, we should forget about debating about it. It happened, you can't go back in time or do anything, just live on and remember the victims, forget about the reason.

[Mashgash]

wall of text

I will take a look at the links you posted tomorrow when I have unlimited time.
It is always interest to see new documentaries and theories, even though it is quite easy to understand what happened and what did not..

Thanks.

[Hevar.]

George W Bush was behind the 9/11 attack :/


The truth hurts !!

http://youtu.be/RAAztWC5sT8

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George W Bush was behind the 9/11 attack :/


The truth hurts !!

http://youtu.be/RAAztWC5sT8

no.
truth =/= popular belief