Why do we need $1,000,000 to fund our campaign? Will there be script-support for it?
Why do we need $1,000,000 to fund our campaign? Will there be script-support for it?
Realism, campaigns cost anywhere from tens to hundreds of millions of dollars. The 1,000,000 concept I'm assuming is to mimic the cost effectiveness of how it is to run a campaign for a political position while still remaining realistic to the current state of the Argonath economy. Mind you all of this can be raised via fundraising and sponsorship as well.
Exactly this:
You do not need to pay this $1,000,000 to anyone, you just need to have it and be willing to commit it to your campaign. This is used to show you are willing to dedicate a lot to your cause. It is also the funds that'll be used to pay your campaign staff, campaign advertisements, and holding official conferences.
campaign advertisements, and holding official conferences.I was thinking these would be with payment to script. Thanks.
Lawrence it's happening for real now where are you. :lol:
Lawrence it's happening for real now where are you. :lol:He started doing criminal activities, did he?
I was thinking exactly the same :lol:Oh yes, the Agency has some special treats in store for corrupt politicians.
Nevertheless, goodluck to anyone trying. Beware, we have tomato torture for corrupt mayors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpQqDimw-z8
I could run if i had 1mil :(
I will present you few corporations if you're willing to candidate seriously, they might sponsor everything. ;)
Does SA:MP even have enough players for this?
If we stop trying to making progress it never will.
I'm just curious if it will be worth all the time you/scripters spend on it
>Says RP over money
>asks for 1m for campaigne
GL on getting 1 candidate.
I can already name someone who has been actively campaigning, and I'm sure there are others who are equally interested..There is your 1 candidate bravo. Nowadays its hard to find someone interested in playing on the server, not someone interested in a political campaigne.
1. You cannot be affiliated with any law enforcement, criminal, or official business type (driving school, cmb, etc).Is this an "OOC" rule or will the part of whether you're a criminal or not be decided by the FBI. Let's say a person is a part of a "criminal" group but there are no charges nor any evidence against him, does this still make the person eligible to run?
Is this an "OOC" rule or will the part of whether you're a criminal or not be decided by the FBI. Let's say a person is a part of a "criminal" group but there are no charges nor any evidence against him, does this still make the person eligible to run?
everyone can be a candidate unless he's charged and guilty for criminal activities
everyone can be a candidate unless he's charged and guilty for criminal activities.
Maybe a Mayor can host elections for the governor of small towns within their cities.
Could there be the possibility of mayors for the smaller towns, such as Fort Carson and Palomino Creek?
You do know Governors are for the entire state?
As of this moment we only intend to launch groups for major cities. There is a rank called "City Staff" which is not a clerk or tax collector, but can be appointed by the major that can act as a major of these cities. The major of the major city would need to get involved and approve however.
We may consider splitting off county areas into their own "cities".
You do know Governors are for the entire state?
I feel splitting off county areas into there own cities would make it much easier, as if I lived in Red County I would not consider myself a resident of Los Santos
Very well, we'll split the county regions off into their own branch.I don't think that's a good choice? We don't have people living in Angel Pine, Blueberry, Las Payasdas, etc... Better not, imo.
Doesn't LV have only one mayor for example and he is responsible for others country regions inside Boundaries?
Lawrence the right man for the job.+1
Requirements:
1. You cannot be affiliated with any law enforcement, criminal, or official business type
ATTN: All citizens wishing to run for mayor in October.I guess I didn't truck enough was busy trying to roleplay with others... But thats not our subject, I hope this will be taken seriously by whoever wins.
Requirements:
1. You cannot be affiliated with any law enforcement, criminal, or official business type (driving school, cmb, etc).
2. You must reside in the city which you intend to run for.
3. You must have at least $1,000,000 ARD to fund your campaign, you may accept donations starting immediately.
4. All candidates must be vetted by the F.B.I including an interview, background check, and residential verification.
I guess I didn't truck enough was busy trying to roleplay with others... But thats not our subject, I hope this will be taken seriously by whoever wins.
Admins can have an account to roleplay on, if I am not mistaking, Teddy has [WS]EvilTeddy and [WS]Teddy
Maybe I'm wrong, who knows :D
So admin have authority to create two accounts?
Admins can have an account to roleplay on, if I am not mistaking, Teddy has [WS]EvilTeddy and [WS]Teddy
Well that is still unfair.
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Admins can have an account to roleplay on, if I am not mistaking, Teddy has [WS]EvilTeddy and [WS]Teddy
Maybe I'm wrong, who knows :D
He's FBI Director on one account and someone completely else on another. No possible way to treat both as the same person when one has very little ties to the FBI apart from a brother being incharge of it.
Well that is still unfair.
but yeah that is pretty unfair but allowed I guess.
According to original topic there was a rule that "staff members" cannot run for mayor, may I know why this rule has ben removed?
If you're referring to the initial post, it has not been edited since it was initially posted meaning there was no such rule.
Somehow somewhere I read similar "rule" mentioning that admins are not allowed to candidate, however I don't have facts to prove, nvm.
The FBI is now running background checks on the candidates.
Your name: Mr. Theodore Rosso II
The city you wish to run for: Las Venturas
Your campaign slogan: A better way forward
Your campaign manager (if applicable) N/A
Any mission statement or short introduction (less than 300 words)
As mayor, I aim to improve activities within the city that'll promote economic growth and stability for all to enjoy.
Note: I am Mr. Theodore Rosso II not to be confused with the FBI Director, Dr. Theodore Rosso II, who is my twin.
If accepted in the FBI, you understand and agree to refrain from:) but it also creates a conflict of interest inside FBI, who needs to check those applications, because I don't think anyone wants to deny the FBI director... IMO administration members should be hold responsible to the same rules and expectations as normal players if they are supposed to enforce them. If you're allowing admins to have more than one RP characters, allow that for everyone.
[..]
- Having more than one roleplaying character (exceptions for court);
[..]
Talk about getting underwear in a bunch, jesus christ people.I wasn't sure before but now you made it more clear than my reflection in the mirror... admins get privileges that normal player don't, having two account has always been prohibited for everyone except for admins that have been allowed to have another account ONLY to get a break from their admin duty and have some fun in the server, I am not against this, I actually support this, admins deserve a break off duty to have fun but why use both account for different purposes of roleplay while others can only use one account for one roleplay character, he broke the rule no matter how you try to explain it, it all sum up to that he violated the rule that he himself stated clearly, You can't be a member of law enforcement.
Staff are allowed to have two accounts
Those two accounts are not related in roleplay terms
The account with rights is to be used primarily for staff matters and roleplay on the side
The second account, even though it is the same person using the account may not mix things between account; for instance if a staff member was on their non-admin account and a player deathmatches them for instance, they are not allowed to logon to their staff account and punish that player. However if the persons actions disrupt the server then they may do so.
The same goes for this instance, the account can be seen as another individual player; if you are upset about him running for mayor, why don't you apply?
And I do not see how he is violating rules by applying either.
If you want to apply, then make sure you have enough money to back your campaign, don't just claim you have the money or it will be void.
What about voting system? What are criterias?The following are definitely there. I don't know if anything else was stated.
sorry if the answer is given already but I'm
not synced.
To be a "citizen", what is req?To have a passport, obviously. Not sure if you have to be residing in San Fierro to vote for a SF party or for any respective party in that order.
To have a passport, obviously. Not sure if you have to be residing in San Fierro to vote for a SF party or for any respective party in that order.There should be a strict req to allow somone to vote for a specific country. If not, we will not have a fair election.
Admins were allowed to have two accounts, but as I remember it
1) First accounts was purely ment for admin purposes, I cannot see how being part of FBI director allows you to completely fullfill your admin duties while you're roleplaying or fullfill your FBI duties while you're part of admin crew, that's ofcourse unless you ignore reports or abandon roleplay scenes 24/7 due to reports.
2) No money transfers are allowed between the two accounts so I wonder where's the million dollar comming from ;)
3) Apart from rules people should consider ethnics, you may find a hole in the "bylaws", but is it ethical to do so, as others do not have the ability to roleplay FBI director (on their admin acc which they are not able to roleplay on, but are able to direct FBI) and a mayor at the same time.
1. Any staff member is allowed to roleplay on their staff account if they have free time which means if there are little to no reports coming in and/or no one is looking for help.It's not that entertaining for us too, but the fact that admins get another account to use for different purposes of roleplay just turn us all furious about the admin system which is kind of being abused this way... and this is violating the law of no multiaccounting.
2. No such rule has ever been made or enforced for staff and their non-admin accounts. Only one rule similar to that is enforced for "new" players with multiple accounts that belong to "friends/relatives" to prevent moneycheating.
3. You really want to start an argument over nothing I see, it's not that entertaining to be honest.
Fun fact; You guys do realize Teddy is not an admin?
2. No such rule has ever been made or enforced for staff and their non-admin accounts. Only one rule similar to that is enforced for "new" players with multiple accounts that belong to "friends/relatives" to prevent moneycheating.Does that mean that any "old" player can create another account for the sake of roleplay diversity?
Why even bother with the elections? :lol: Just set yourself as Mayor already, Teddy :)Yeah, why not? It's not like you care about the opinion of Argo players or the rules, it's not like the admins care about fairness and equality, all you do(Devin) is deflecting all blame away from yourself and the administration towards the players while ignoring the wishes of those players with constant excuses. This isn't "starting an argument over nothing", this is an argument about admin misuse of power, how you can just play on another account and character when you're supposed to use it for different purpose, how you're allowed to bend the rules to shape your liking(for example FBI regulations). If you allow an administrator to be in a law enforcement agency or business and run for the mayor, allow that for everyone.
Topic is for applying to be Mayor not general discussion.
You know this topic is about the mayoral candidates, therefore you discuss those candidates.Sure, You want to discuss the mayoral candidates? let's do
If you want to talk about teddy misusing what is available to him without a problem, then start a different topic if you so desire.
Just remember we're players as well, we too desire to play the game, and we have the means to.
And to think you were once in the staff team, now all you want to do is say how staff having to deal with shit on one account and being able to relax on another is unfair. Just wow.You clearly didn't fully read my reply or you didn't understand it, I wasted 5 seconds from my life to type that :
I wasn't sure before but now you made it more clear than my reflection in the mirror... admins get privileges that normal player don't, having two account has always been prohibited for everyone except for admins that have been allowed to have another account ONLY to get a break from their admin duty and have some fun in the server, I am not against this, I actually support this, admins deserve a break off duty to have fun but why use both account for different purposes of roleplay while others can only use one account for one roleplay characterplease next time don't put words in my mouth.
At first, I thought Teddy only applied for mayor because there was no candidate for LV and there will be elections soon? Anyone else thought of this before going straight in talking about two accounts and stuff we already know.You can't claim such stuff unless it was his words, I would love to see if others apply to become LV Candidates, Teddy will withdrow his application...
Correct, he is a manager.Scripter, but same thing really when it comes to this subject. So what's the big fuss about him having another account? Gimli used to have many different accounts, not to mention UC accounts. And every admin has another account for roleplay as well.
Scripter, but same thing really when it comes to this subject. So what's the big fuss about him having another account? Gimli used to have many different accounts, not to mention UC accounts. And every admin has another account for roleplay as well.
Yeah, but it's what it's being used for. Like Seskom said the reason for them was to get a little break from admin work, not to use as an advantage in roleplay groups. Back in the day there were actually people interested in joining the FBI while on their admin account they were criminals, but it wasn't allowed back then.I still don't see the problem, nor how's that different from past experience. How's he gonna use his"break", his legit account, is he gonna be a cop, criminal, hot dog seller or Mayor is his own choice of roleplay.
Personally I'm well aware what Teddy is doing is in his right nowadays, but what people are saying is that it's still unfair because it's a huge privilege regular players don't enjoy, which is why it didn't happen a few years ago.
I still don't see the problem, nor how's that different from past experience. How's he gonna use his"break", his legit account, is he gonna be a cop, criminal, hot dog seller or Mayor is his own choice of roleplay.It's an advantage.
I still don't see the problem, nor how's that different from past experience. How's he gonna use his"break", his legit account, is he gonna be a cop, criminal, hot dog seller or Mayor is his own choice of roleplay.The problem had been explained a few times already... Admins can use an extra account for roleplay purposes having fun and break the tense from admin duty, but not using it because their first account doesn't meet the requirement of a group they are looking to join, it feels like the purpose of the extra account is being abused, players do not get to have two different roleplay character they only get to have one roleplay character, so why admins should?
The problem had been explained a few times already... Admins can use an extra account for roleplay purposes having fun and break the tense from admin duty, but not using it because their first account doesn't meet the requirement of a group they are looking to join, it feels like the purpose of the extra account is being abused, players do not get to have two different roleplay character they only get to have one roleplay character, so why admins should?
This is the third time I explain the problem, each time using different words but same concept, if you still do not understand whats the problem then I guess you wouldn't even if I explain it a few more times.
A non-admin account can be utilized however they want it to be utilized. That is the purpose of it, no where in the rules does it state that a non-admin account can't be used for means that your primary account doesn't meet. The purpose of a primary account in today's standard is to focus specifically on administrative duties and if you want to roleplay on the side, you are more than welcome to when time permits. However the non-admin account was designed specifically to allow users the ability to roleplay freely without having to worry about responding to reports, you have the opportunity to roleplay in whatever capacity on that account because it is in no relation to your primary account for a reason.
At first, I thought Teddy only applied for mayor because there was no candidate for LV and there will be elections soon? Anyone else thought of this before going straight in talking about two accounts and stuff we already know.+1
You can't claim such stuff unless it was his words, I would love to see if others apply to become LV Candidates, Teddy will withdrow his application...If you would have read the topic, you would have seen Salmonella applying to become LV Candidate.
aslong as that doesn't happen your theory means nothing.
At first, I thought Teddy only applied for mayor because there was no candidate for LV and there will be elections soon? Anyone else thought of this before going straight in talking about two accounts and stuff we already know.
Yes. This is actually the only reason I applied. When I closed the apps I noticed nobody applied for this city and setup simply to fill the vacancy.
I'm a big bad wolf now who abuses everything and is corrupt as fuck... simply for trying to help. #ArgonathProblems
A non-admin account can be utilized however they want it to be utilized. That is the purpose of it, no where in the rules does it state that a non-admin account can't be used for means that your primary account doesn't meet. The purpose of a primary account in today's standard is to focus specifically on administrative duties and if you want to roleplay on the side, you are more than welcome to when time permits. However the non-admin account was designed specifically to allow users the ability to roleplay freely without having to worry about responding to reports, you have the opportunity to roleplay in whatever capacity on that account because it is in no relation to your primary account for a reason.Well, You're right there is no such rule that states admins are obligated to roleplay only on their non admin account, but do you really want players to think that admins get privileges that they don't? Players are obedient to the rules and admins orders but they aren't stupid,stop giving out privileges that were never given out to anyone before you. That is just far away from the main purpose of an admin having another account, main purpose was because while on duty admins didn't have time to roleplay and have fun during their playing time so they were allowed to have another account in purpose getting a break from their admin account and have fun...
but do you really want players to think that admins get privileges that they don't?
:app:
I'm a big bad wolf now who abuses everything and is corrupt as fuck... simply for trying to help.
However the non-admin account was designed specifically to allow users the ability to roleplay freely without having to worry about responding to reports.
The whole "one roleplay character" thing for players is bulshit. This is Argonath, you are permitted to change your RP character freely. I just happen to do it with another account; which I never even use. I haven't logged into [WS]Teddy since like early summer. There is no advantage to this at all. On my EvilTeddy "character" I know of a leak in the FBI; but don't act on it using my Teddy character because he doesn't have evidence of it. So, I see no real advantage.
And Sal, saying it didn't happen a few years ago is funny. I guess you weren't aware the true volume of how often this actually happened. Don't worry, can't blame you for not knowing something people were secretive about. The difference is, I am being fully transparent about it and not hiding it from anyone or in anyway trying to cover it up. You should consider this a good thing.
The difference is, I am being fully transparent about it and not hiding it from anyone or in anyway trying to cover it up. You should consider this a good thing.
I just happen to do it with another account
I bet you knew more about what happened in the admin team 3 years before you became a part of it when you didn't even play on Argonath yet.
you also have the advantage of vetting yourself and making sure your ''twin brother'' makes it through the selection process.
The whole "one roleplay character" thing for players is bulshit. This is Argonath, you are permitted to change your RP character freely. I just happen to do it with another account; which I never even use. I haven't logged into [WS]Teddy since like early summer. There is no advantage to this at all. On my EvilTeddy "character" I know of a leak in the FBI; but don't act on it using my Teddy character because he doesn't have evidence of it. So, I see no real advantage.
And Sal, saying it didn't happen a few years ago is funny. I guess you weren't aware the true volume of how often this actually happened. Don't worry, can't blame you for not knowing something people were secretive about. The difference is, I am being fully transparent about it and not hiding it from anyone or in anyway trying to cover it up. You should consider this a good thing.
Yes. This is actually the only reason I applied. When I closed the apps I noticed nobody applied for this city and setup simply to fill the vacancy.If you're going to compare having another account and using it for different roleplay purposes with the ability to ban atleast do it right...
I'm a big bad wolf now who abuses everything and is corrupt as fuck... simply for trying to help. #ArgonathProblems
So we shouldn't give admins access to /ban? It is after all a privilege that players don't have.Without that command admins wouldn't be able to do their duties, whereas you don't need 2 different separate rp characters to do admin duties(if you must have a non admin account atleast you can rp the same character, like the rest of us are forced to do).
The whole "one roleplay character" thing for players is bulshit. This is Argonath, you are permitted to change your RP character freely. I just happen to do it with another account; which I never even use. I haven't logged into [WS]Teddy since like early summer. There is no advantage to this at all.The problem is you don't need to change your character, you can just make a new one. If I for example wanted to apply for mayor or run a criminal organisation, I would have to leave FBI, while you can remain the director, I guess the rules are different for high ranked administration and organisation members.
If you're going to compare having another account and using it for different roleplay purposes with the ability to ban atleast do it right...
"/Ban" is a very restricted command that can be used only in a few situations
Having Another account purpose is to break the tense from the admin duty and have some fun
Using the Non-admin account for another purposes is like using /ban for another situations...
Can you tell me the exact date I joined Argonath? I don't think you can because you don't know me. So don't tell me what I do and don't know and when I did and didn't play.
Except I wouldn't do this. You see, me and you are very different. You would abuse this fact; I don't and wouldn't. This is why we haven't let players yet create multiple accounts for multiple characters. While some can properly hold barriers between their RP characters, most people can't and wouldn't.
forgive me for thinking you could comprehend
If it's such a big deal, as long as someone comes forward today for a LV Mayoral position... I'll give it up. I only wanted to do it as a need, as in there was nobody else when the deadline closed. I had no intentions of getting everyone's panties all bunched up.
Your name: =AV=Salmonella (Salvatore Monella)
The city you wish to run for: Las Venturas
Your campaign slogan: Argonath Awakes
Your campaign manager (if applicable): [WS]Frank_Neville (Frank Neville)
Any mission statement or short introduction (less than 300 words):
Mr. Salvatore Monella is aged 59, was born and raised in a town in the middle of Bone County that goes by the name of Fort Carson. Salvatore, whose ancestor migrated out of Italy into the United States of Argonath before the civil war, always knew he wanted to be a civil servant. He finished sheriff training aged 21, and was a deputy in Fort Carson for a year. Soon thereafter he felt that the quiet town of Fort Carson no longer needed him, and requested to be transfered to Los Santos, where he rose to the rank of SAPD Sergeant in the 80s. Through an internal application process, he was eventually transfered to the United States of Argonath Army as a Captain, in the lure of the cold war. Eventually he became what most people nowadays remember him as: General Salvatore Monella. Having retired from law enforcement two years ago, Salvatore now wishes to serve the citizens of Argonath in a different department, after founding the National Socialist Argonath Labor Party, more suitable for his age.
It says right here on the forums when you registered. Apart from that you and I both know we go way back to USAA/ADF times when you first joined the community. I know you and I know when you joined.
Regardless of that one thing is for sure, you weren't a part of the admin team when I was and therefore you couldn't really have ''known more'' about how stuff went with accounts I was allowed to have at that point in time and how others ''secretely'' use it.
I didn't even say abuse, thanks for assuming I'd abuse your rights though, very mature. I also like how you're implying you're any better than any other community member that would have access to a second account with different roleplay abilities, which is pretty unrelated since the only argument you could give on this is that they're going to do money transfers or something.
What I said is that you're still Tedd and you're going to roleplay TWO characters that have to work together and one of them pretty much being in charge of whether or not the other can go through with his mayor campaign. It would be really great if you the first person in the world to be a genius at mastering schizophrenia so you could somehow forget you are the ''twin brother'', but let's not pretend.
Let's just say I don't think Mr. Theodore Rosso will have any issues passing the FBI vetting stage. :)
That isn't the point I was trying to make. The point I was trying to make, forgive me for thinking you could comprehend, is that admins are privileged, the entire process of becoming part of the team is having the ability to have additional privileges over players. While, yes, admins are simply players with additional responsibilities; they also do posses additional privileges to facilitate those responsibilities.You're cute when you try to offend me...
If it's such a big deal, as long as someone comes forward today for a LV Mayoral position... I'll give it up. I only wanted to do it as a need, as in there was nobody else when the deadline closed. I had no intentions of getting everyone's panties all bunched up.
Teddy, you're just starting up another endeavor you will finish after a long time, if even finish it at all. Don't you have enough things to worry about? Scripts that should be updated? Systems to be added? 3:RL? And you want to become a mayor on top of all this?
Forgive me if I don't fall for your "I'm too busy" card next time you play it...
It's a principle thing, though.
You're cute when you try to offend me...
From now on we should all call you god, you would do whatever you want without considering other's opinion, yeah I am sure that something people would love to know about a mayoral candidate, enjoy abusing your privileges and good luck with your campaign mate ;)
Is being condescending a self triggered defense mechanism that you always use while arguing?
Not trying to offend anyone. If you got offended, that's your fault and I do apologize. I'm no god. I don't do whatever I want otherwise we'd have a very different conversation going on. I love when people say I don't consider other's opinions. Yep, look at all the recent changes that people in the past ignored that I decided to listen to and implement. Ignorance is bliss.
Actually, it's possible that it is a psychological defense of mine. I'm not sure, want to continue down the rabbit hole and find out together?
So the forums dictates the entire community? Interesting. Let's get a few things clear. You don't know me at all and I only joined SA:MP back in the USAA/ADF times, not the community.
You are right in a few ways. I wasn't apart of the admin team and when I wasn't a developer, no I didn't know it was going on anymore than you didn't. However once I became a developer during the RS4 era, I had access to everything and yes I am a naturally curious person. It was only after that I became aware of how much it took place.
you don't need to say abuse, the idea of letting myself allow my other account to special access would be abuse. No need to say it. Actually, you are right, we have no idea how it would turn out.
It's all about control and knowing what to act on. As I said, I know of a leak in the FBI that Mr. Theodore knows of. However, the director doesn't know so that person is untouched, even got a promotion after knowing. Entirely unaffected by the knowledge. Could you do that? Honestly?
Not trying to offend anyone. If you got offended, that's your fault and I do apologize. I'm no god. I don't do whatever I want otherwise we'd have a very different conversation going on. I love when people say I don't consider other's opinions. Yep, look at all the recent changes that people in the past ignored that I decided to listen to and implement. Ignorance is bliss.
You posted after the deadline, after I did. It was drowned in everyone venting their frustrations. Very well, I withdraw from the race as I'll let your be counted into the final draft.
>that's your fault
>i apologize
So you're actually going to go with a story where you played on another mystery server of Argonath before SA:MP, and didn't have a forum account beforehand, or made it a significant amount of time afterward? It doesn't really matter anyway since these are SA:MP things we're talking about.
Well, I stand corrected, I thought you only became involved in that in 2014 or so, after RS5. Didn't think you'd dig up by-then ancient topics though.
It's not abuse when you keep them ''separated'' :)
Could I roleplay a pretty simple roleplay scenario? Sure. Could I genuinely pretend to not know what's really going on, and actually conduct an honest investigation for myself? That's impossible, I'm sure you understand why deep inside.
I wasn't sure the deadline ended since you posted one right after/before ''the end of the week''. What about MrPlayerismus, his application counts too right? Like I said earlier, I suggested the deadline be extended and we'd clarify the actual requirements.
In the interest of being fair and nice, yes, I'll let his application be accepted as well and extend the deadline until Friday. No more past that.
Nothing mysterious about it. If you actually knew me then, hey, you'd know this. If it's SA:MP we're only discussing, then yes, I only joined SA:MP around that time.>nothing mysterious about it
You see and that's where the problem lies. I wouldn't let Dr. Theodore investigate Mr. Theodore. Good thing the FBI is more than just me. In terms of pretending to not know what's going on, is a bit different then ignoring it entirely.Ah, you wouldn't have had anything to do with it, I see. :)
extend the deadline until Friday. No more past that.
>nothing mysterious about it
>still doesn't say where his argonath journey started
If it's not mysterious, then why are you being so secretive about it?
Since we're letting candidates continue to apply for another few days, let's move off topic complaints to my PM. I'm always open to hearing out people's thoughts and disagreements.
Any more off topic stuff will be removed. Thanks.
Not trying to offend anyone. If you got offended, that's your fault and I do apologize. I'm no god. I don't do whatever I want otherwise we'd have a very different conversation going on. I love when people say I don't consider other's opinions. Yep, look at all the recent changes that people in the past ignored that I decided to listen to and implement. Ignorance is bliss.trying to offend me doesn't mean you succeed, but no problem I forgive you ^_^
It's an advantage.That he's in tittle to?
Requirements:
1. You cannot be affiliated with any law enforcement, criminal, or official business type (driving school, cmb, etc).
2. You must reside in the city which you intend to run for.
3. You must have at least $1,000,000 ARD to fund your campaign, you may accept donations starting immediately.
4. All candidates must be vetted by the F.B.I including an interview, background check, and residential verification.
Your name: Kostas EvansWhere in the city do you live? ( if not a secret )
The city you wish to run for: San Fierro
I've spent a great percentage of my time in our state in San Fierro. And while others have been there longer, I still found the right people to run with, and am aiming for what's best for the City.You were one of those members, who we couldn't get to come to San Fierro from Los Santos when ever we were doing something in SF.
Kostas 4San Fierro mayor!! Make your choise now and go with the right direction! Not with criminals!Yes, listen to the guy who's been deported from the state!
Friendly suggestion to the candidates:This must be pinned in criterias that candidates must meet to participate, i see here not the right person for the position.
Being smooth and ethical is the key of every "show" that elections might reserve for you. Don't reply to "fans". Don't "attack" your opponents on high tones. Speak with facts and with authority toward everyone. Hide your hooligan spirit. Control your emotions. Always be serious with a friendly smile sometimes. Being stubborn won't bring you respect therefore show only positive sides even if you don't have one.
The fate of the country is in your hands, show us that you worth, consider this opportunity, try to keep in civilized situation the image of our country, internationals(New players) might come to visit the elections and we should be perfect.
For a second i tought that you are not a mafia boss.
Being smooth and ethical is the key of every "show" that elections might reserve for you. Don't reply to "fans". Don't "attack" your opponents on high tones. Speak with facts and with authority toward everyone. Hide your hooligan spirit. Control your emotions. Always be serious with a friendly smile sometimes. Being stubborn won't bring you respect therefore show only positive sides even if you don't have one.
For a second i tought that you are not a mafia boss.Diferent from some others, he is a reasonable human.
Diferent from some others, he is a reasonable human.
I don't see why you and Johan had to write a novel, because I said you're pushing and supporting Kostas campaign because of your own interest. Its not like you tried hiding that, you gave him open support, as well as "catch the theft!" shouting while calling the facts I wrote propaganda. It would be propaganda, if anyone of you, including Kostas was able to dismiss the facts I wrote, but none of you could, because I know your candidate and his time spent in San Fierro, better then you. Hence why you wrote a classic political reply, in which you wrote 5-6 sentence, yet you didn't actually say anything. That's called demagogy, Gents.
Will elections happen on a monthly basis?
Your campaign slogan: Together, We will lift the city upThe city is already up, if you came from time to time you would see with your own eyes ;)
I want you to remember that you make the city run and you will be the one running the city!We already run the city.. :lol:
The city is already up, if you came from time to time you would see with your own eyes ;)Ok.
We already run the city.. :lol:
Is that Fort Carson project still up?
Is that Fort Carson project still up? Will people who live there, be able to pick Mayor in those small cities, such as Fort Carson?
The city is already up, if you came from time to time you would see with your own eyes ;)
We already run the city.. :lol:
Damn, long time no see. To the point. I wouldn't describe it as "up". Also you are indeed running it, yet the results are what? An empty city owned by two groups of people?The city which only real players and roleplayers are, the quality over the quantity.
The city which only real players and roleplayers are, the quality over the quantity.Lol
p s it's owned by only one group ;)
Pretty sure the cities are owned by 'the government' unless someone manages to form a party and gain it independence. :gand:Mayors work for the government....
Mayors work for the government....So? If Argonath's government is democratic, they'd have no problem with an independence seeking party getting a mayor in one of the cities if said mayor is elected fairly.
I'm not classic, I'm special. I don't even have to speak good words about Gvardia, our acts prove that. If you think I'm acting badass over forum only, you may meet me in real life and then decide if I'm only ''a badass over forum'' ;)Yo, please shh. You sound like a 12 year old right now.
And who are you?That shouldn't bother you. Just take the advice.
meet me in real life and then decide if I'm only ''a badass over forum'' ;)
I'm not classic, I'm special. I don't even have to speak good words about Gvardia, our acts prove that. If you think I'm acting badass over forum only, you may meet me in real life and then decide if I'm only ''a badass over forum'' ;)WOW
From you? HardlyThat's on you bud :)
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Damn, I must be packing.
Feel you!Looks like you're a little bit bigger than me. :(
From you? HardlyYou're just lowering Gvardia's chances at winning this, the city isn't owned by Gvradia or if you do believe that then atleast be smart and don't say that in public post, People don't like reading this kind of stuff, and you need people to get votes... so don't ruin your mates chances at winning and play fair... good luck.
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Damn, I must be packing.
Damn, I must be packing.Everyone knows Africans are bigger though. :eek:
Get in line mate :hah: :rofl:
The city is already up, if you came from time to time you would see with your own eyes ;)
We already run the city.. :lol:
I'm not classic, I'm special. I don't even have to speak good words about Gvardia, our acts prove that. If you think I'm acting badass over forum only, you may meet me in real life and then decide if I'm only ''a badass over forum'' ;)
And who are you?
From you? Hardly
WOW
Just for the record, Aca has nothing to do with my campaign and just take the right precautions against him.I agree. I am ready to take all the consequences on me if required.
Everyone is just throwing shit at each other. Stop that and act mature.
As much as Aca went full retarded, you do realize that in that post he's being ironic by impersonating a friend of yours?
Great! Some competition! :DWe all know who's the real deal here though. ;)
We all know who's the real deal here though. ;)
Being an inactive player wasn't a problem for you guys, so why would it be a problem for Skyhawk? The fact he's connected with powerful people, and that he was successfully running complexed organizations, just shows how capable he is.
So much bickering going on over all this mayor stuff.
What makes the game more interesting and entertaining for all players, as long as rules are being followed, as long as no one takes the things more than just roleplay, as long as we be friends with each other outside-inside.Except it's all being taken out of roleplay to a point where everyone is just b!tching about each other.
Except it's all being taken out of roleplay to a point where everyone is just bad girling about each other.
I can't say this was an unexpected move from ''the other side'', for the public this news won't come as a shock either, considering your background as director of Theodore Enterprises as well as being the financial manager of SLB, which pretty much completes the triangle. Apart from that there is no reason why you shouldn't have signed up for candidature, except that this alliance is controlled by one person, whom for a while now has looked like the center to the public as well. Everyone knows very well that you're one of the most inactive players in the server, for whatever reason, yet you still decide to run for mayor. Must've been a very strong individually made decision, right?
Regardless of that, I wish you good luck. I hope the FBI will not just check the criminal records of a candidate, but also the origin of the campaign money. The investors must reveal the resources of the money to those institutions responsible for making things fair for all citizens of Argonath.
How come they must have 1mil in order to run though? Seems a bit restrictive if you ask me.
This was already covered in the beginning of the topic. No need in bringing it back up.I see that now, but campaigns don't have to cost a single penny... You could literally do all your advertising and such on social media and through low cost public events, obviously the people with the money will usually do the best, but 'realistically' you don't need to be rich to run for anything or to start a campaign, it shouldn't be wealth that counts, it should be who the 'public' support, this just seems very roleplay restrictive if you ask me.
I see that now, but campaigns don't have to cost a single penny... You could literally do all your advertising and such on social media and through low cost public events, obviously the people with the money will usually do the best, but 'realistically' you don't need to be rich to run for anything or to start a campaign, it shouldn't be wealth that counts, it should be who the 'public' support, this just seems very roleplay restrictive if you ask me.Good suggestion actually. Maybe the Dutch approach is a good one: in order to be put on the voting ballot, you need to produce evidence of supporters (usually signatures) in every voting district of the country. If you get enough signatures, you can run for whatever the election is for.
Good suggestion actually. Maybe the Dutch approach is a good one: in order to be put on the voting ballot, you need to produce evidence of supporters (usually signatures) in every voting district of the country. If you get enough signatures, you can run for whatever the election is for.That sounds good actually, if people were elected in through signatures on one of their own campaign topics it would be easy to see who has the most support and wether or not their supporters are valid, though roleplay campaigns should be completed before signatures are allowed to flow in.
I see that now, but campaigns don't have to cost a single penny... You could literally do all your advertising and such on social media and through low cost public events, obviously the people with the money will usually do the best, but 'realistically' you don't need to be rich to run for anything or to start a campaign, it shouldn't be wealth that counts, it should be who the 'public' support, this just seems very roleplay restrictive if you ask me.
We're not changing the system now. There is actually a restrictive element so that way not everyone and their 3rd cousins are running for mayor. As realistically you don't hear about the poor candidates because they can't campaign and advertise. The 1m is a measure to ensure that the player is established, committed, and able to fund a notable campaign within the state. In addition, sure people could've started campaigning almost a month ago without the 1m requirement; they could've done fundraisers it's not my fault nobody took the consideration to do this since fundraisers are how most "realistic" political figures earn money to fuel their campaign.Not everyone will run for mayor in my eyes, the same as not everyone wants to open and run their own group, not many people know enough about politics to have a campaign even worthy of bothering, if 'campaigns' were seen as groups which required tidy topics in City Hall and a certain numbers of members/supporters before a topic could be posted I think that would remove the element of everyone spamming different campaigns, right now it doesn't look like there's enough competition for the super rich who currently do have campaigns going.
right now it doesn't look like there's enough competition for the super rich who currently do have campaigns going.
I gave him a quarter of the minimum.Oh yeah I remember that, it was the highest amount I've been given in my entire time in Argonath. Good times - good times. :rofl:
because nobody did fundraising other than one person I know of. Lawrence did and I gave him a quarter of the minimum. Those who were truly wanting to achieve this could've done so by honestly what is democracy in today's standards... making deals with the super elite to get backing and funding.Democracy is meant to be about letting the people decide, and the people don't have many fish in the pond to choose from at the moment because everyone is being kept out by the million dollar rule, I see what you mean by people should have started campaigning and fund raising weeks ago, but did everyone truly know the elections/campaigning were coming up?
I see what you mean by people should have started campaigning and fund raising weeks ago, but did everyone truly know the elections/campaigning were coming up?
Will mayor have a special rank? Like giving out ranks and cmds to his bodyguards and staff crew also own office? =)