With the best coming out ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1d7Llx4rm8
BTW, KGB doesn't exist anymore.LOL
I bet you're really dancing on this song pal...Does it feel good to wank on this bullshit propaganda?
Does it feel good to support an anti-homosexuals president?
I don't know if I should laugh or cry
Belive me i do not have anything against homosexuals,I try mu best to not care about their twisted nature.
But i do not belive that its healthy for a child to have same sex parents,as many would agree on this with me.
No one should be pushed into believing something that is not correct.
Here is a simple example 2 drug addict parents have a child and like we all know the child is the mirror of his parents
do you think that you can tell that kid that drugs are wrong? Even if the addict parents do tell the kid dont do drugs son they are bad,the kid is still witnessing the drug abuse before his very eyes.Chances are you have a new drug addict/dealer on the street.
Same goes to same sex parents.Do you think that its healthy for a young boy/girl to be guided trough life by 2 dads which have been pushed around not being accepted by the community and have own personal scars from society?
Do you think that will not reflect on that child as it is thought by those people(im not say "those people" cos they're gay,but they dont have a good viewing of the society and the reality of their problem..)
Everyone should have his own choice in life,its given to us and only us.If the kid wants to be gay or different it will choose his own path.But having parents who will tell you and show you different that is just wrong.you say TV brainwashes people,when you think of it wont those kids be brainwashed by the parents themselves?
Its just like saying Putin is bad for not giving a gun to a schizophreniac.
Judging from your post, it appears you do care.
I do not care for their desires toward same sex life companions.But i do care about the future of the children who would be in the custody of gay marriage couples.
As long as their not allowed to adopt kids, I'm fine with it.
I do not care for their desires toward same sex life companions.But i do care about the future of the children who would be in the custody of gay marriage couples.
I do not care for their desires toward same sex life companions.But i do care about the future of the children who would be in the custody of gay marriage couples.
As long as their not allowed to adopt kids, I'm fine with it.
I do not care for their desires toward same sex life companions.But i do care about the future of the children who would be in the custody of gay marriage couples.
LOL
What surprises me is that you actually think you're not a bunch of discriminating homophobes.
Well I hope you two never gets children. :)I consider myself very open-minded person regarding everything. I personally used to have a close gay friend. I do not treat gays as trash or different from any other human being. But when it comes to this non-sense? Gay couple to adopt a kid? Do you realize what will happen in the kid's life? Growing up calling both of the parents 'dad'?
I dont mean to offend anyone or anybodies opinion nor his viewing on the world,Im just sayin if ever would there be a vote on this subject -allowing gay coples to raise children i would vote against it.
You can say anything you want give me as many studies and facts that you want.My opinion on that stays.
I say again i still have nothing against gay people i just dont think they have good parental guiding abilities.
I would like to stop here before this topic goes to hell with a hand basket.
I do not treat gays as trash or different from any other human being.
When it comes to this non-sense? Gay couple to adopt a kid? Do you realize what will happen in the kid's life? Growing up calling both of the parents 'dad'?
I consider it a crime to human life. It's just against it, it just is.
As 'survivor'of the USSR I can tell that many seem to have forgotten about the free medical care and free quality schooling, the possibilities for village children to get to the highest universities, that every family would be given a house and much more.
Even those claiming to be oppressed 'suffered' all of the above.
That not everything was available and finally the collapse of the system was due to all of this having to be paid for, and with export of oil and gas being the one thing not restricted it just became too expansive to provide everything.
Look at the high tax rates in countries that still try to provide all of this to their citizens like Sweden and the Netherlands, and you will understand it is not easy to keep it up.
Now to the usual misunderstanding of the Russian laws on homosexuality. Contrary to what is often mentioned, there is nothing illegal about being gay in Russia. There are several openly gay artists and also in every other field it is not less accepted as it is in the West.
However there is a difference in what is accepted. Nothing can be done about your secual preference. But a lot can be done about your behaviour. While Russians are prety open about sex andtheir preferences, it is somehting that is in general to be limited to the bedroom.
There are laws prohibiting the explicit sexual propaganda aimed tiwards children, and within these laws the homosexual propaganda has gotten a lot of attention.
Vladimir Putin is not without errors, but he has managed to lead Russia for a long time and got through multiple crises. People are afraid of him because he does not talk a lot, but acts. This is the base of his ongoing popularity, combined with having a leader that is willing to show his face, unlike how things were in the USSR.
I do not care what sexual orentation you have. I do not care what colour you are. I do not care what religion (if any) you have. I do not care if you are male or female. I just treat everyone the same. Which leads to protests of those who feel they are entitled to get preferential treatment because they belong to s group that is 'special'.
This still goes for most Russians. They are not politically correct. They will not mince their words because someone may take offense. But they are honest in what they tell you.
Wait what?What's so hard to understand? I do not want gays to raise a kid. Let's overlook the fact that they are against the mother nature and abnormal as we all are afterall considering that most of the men buttfuck their girlfriends/wives - that's abnormal itself, no?
No Charles, you are the crime against human life..Right. :lol: :lol:
I still don't understand how did this topic get to this.Guess that is something nobody can help you with. :lol:
Anyhow, when Gandalf is viewing a joke topic that turned into a political debate, you know shit's gone mad.
Come on, Gandie, tell us what you think :rofl:
What's so hard to understand?
What's so hard to understand? I do not want gays to raise a kid. Let's overlook the fact that they are against the mother nature and abnormal as we all are afterall considering that most of the men buttfuck their girlfriends/wives - that's abnormal itself, no?Why are you only thinking about men? There are homosexual women too.
Right. My point was that there's a reason that men are not able to become pregnant. I accept that you have different tastes, but do NOT go spread it to a kid.
Right. :lol: :lol:
You all sound cool and all and oh yeah yeah we support gay marriages to have kids, yeh why not... What if your own child adopts a kid with another man? What happens then? I'll f**cking tell you what happens. You going on saying oh yeah yeah I only wish my child to be happy but yet when you go with your wife to your bed you are crying to death.
Sexual orentation is only a choice for bisexual people
Is it?
Why are you only thinking about men? There are homosexual women too.I personally condemn homosexual women regarding adoption as well, there's no difference at all but the whole topic turned out to be gay marriage discussion.
I would hope to have raised my children in such a way they would not wait until the moment of adoption to tell me. Sexual orentation is only a choice for bisexual people, anyone else can not choose. As homosexual couples are looked at much stricter efore adoption as normal couples, when they pass the test there is nothing to oppose. And as sexual orientation is not something that you are taught, the chils will not ne homosexual just because the parents are.
The one reason why I would be cautious is that the child will be confronted through all of childhood with the prejudice of society.
I personally condemn homosexual women regarding adoption as well, there's no difference at all but the whole topic turned out to be gay marriage discussion.
You still have not answered tho, would you be happy if your kid adopted another kid with a man? Let's say you knew everything since day one. Would you be happy and glad or in shame regarding it?
I personally condemn homosexual women regarding adoption as well, there's no difference at all but the whole topic turned out to be gay marriage discussion.It would fully depend on the reason for adopting and how they had thought over the challenges they will meet from people like you. If they would show it to be a well considered move and they could help a child from being brought up in an orphanage without chance of a good life, I would be happy to be grandpa.
You still have not answered tho, would you be happy if your kid adopted another kid with a man? Let's say you knew everything since day one. Would you be happy and glad or in shame regarding it?
I personally condemn homosexual women regarding adoption as well, there's no difference at all but the whole topic turned out to be gay marriage discussion.I would be proud of my kid. Adopting a kid is not a small thing, especially when you cannot create a "normal" environment for it. Also, about the kid turning into a homosexual aswell, I don't think that there's enough proof on that, is there?
You still have not answered tho, would you be happy if your kid adopted another kid with a man? Let's say you knew everything since day one. Would you be happy and glad or in shame regarding it?
I personally condemn homosexual women regarding adoption as well, there's no difference at all but the whole topic turned out to be gay marriage discussion.
You still have not answered tho, would you be happy if your kid adopted another kid with a man? Let's say you knew everything since day one. Would you be happy and glad or in shame regarding it?
Why would you be against it? Do you feel same sex couples are incapable of raising a child together or even parenting a child? Would you rather have a child left in an orphanage waiting to be adopted just because you don't want a "gay" couple adopting them?There are far better solution than this gay marriage.
There are far better solution than this gay marriage.
Also I think that any child shouldn't be raised in a gay-ish parenting life that is just abusing and misleading the child.
What has the world become now is too sad to imagine.
I'll take a shot in the dark; and it's bound to make some people upset.
Does your view on this have anything to do with your religious beliefs? Why would it be misleading and abusive towards the child if they were raised in a house with a gay couple?
I would still love to know why some people have this belief that a gay couple are incapable of being a part of society or even being able to raise a child.
Also, about the kid turning into a homosexual aswell, I don't think that there's enough proof on that, is there?I don't know about proof, but I do think it's likely for a kid to turn out gay, if he is raised by gay parents...
I would rather be raised with a gay parents and have a family instead of being raised by a orphanage and not have a real family.That's a good point actually, adoptions would certainly go up if gays in most countries could adopt...
OMG!!!We have the gift to turn everything we touch into crap :/
How this topic turned to this?!!!
I'm Bisexual, so I guess I can't adopt because I like men too but I'm in a relationship with a girl.
But my girlfriend and I aren't straight.. but we would have a "traditional" marriage... so we are allowed to adopt, while not straight?Bisexuality is a different discussion, I was just mentioning my opinion regarding gay marriages.
I have nothing against homosexuals as I said in my very first post. I simply do not support gay marriages adopting a kid due to the fact that the kid will raise with wrong standards, simple as that.
Bisexuality is a different discussion, I was just mentioning my opinion regarding gay marriages.
And what is 'wrong' with their standards? I've got a feeling that if you'd raise a kid it would get inhumane thoughts.What's wrong with their standards? The two fathers, that's what's wrong. Simply because I'm against gay marriage adoption makes me 'inhuman'?
yeaSexual orentation is only a choice for bisexual peopleIs it?
My entire post has been ignored that had logical questions posed in it. Feel free to try and answer those questions Charles.I simply do not agree with the adoption, due to what Gandalf stated about the kid's childhood confrontation and as well being raised by wrong standards.
Simply because I'm against gay marriage adoption makes me 'inhuman'?
Is it?
yea
it's pretty cool
I simply do not agree with the adoption, due to what Gandalf stated about the kid's childhood confrontation and as well being raised by wrong standards.
And I'm getting bored being pointed at and that's why I'm outta here, you people seem not to respect a different opinion. I started with saying "As long they are not adopting kids, I'm fine with it" and I got shitloads of bad girling about it. We all differ, as you say.
Yes, since you are passing on your "gay adoption is wrong"-beliefs to your kids.And who are you to judge my beliefs and stating that they are inhuman? A fucking nazi? Perhaps.
And who are you to judge my beliefs and stating that they are inhuman? A f**cking nazi? Perhaps.
This has nothing to do with disrespecting your opinion because I didn't see any post in this topic that directly attacked your opinion, but that doesn't mean we aren't allowed to challenge one another opinions. I simply asked you to compare the differences between a child growing up in a traditional family with a mother and father and exposing themselves as homosexual to that of a child being adopted by two fathers and growing up to attract to members of a different sexual orientation.Children raised by gay parents are offered only one partnership model and are therefore more likely to be gay. May also raise confused children especially when they also start their own family. they will not be aware on how opposite sexes are living with each other. It may have a different psychological and emotional impact on the life of the child.
Don't throw out outlandish statements unless you are prepared to defend those statements. I provided logical questions that I was hoping to see a formulated response to, but apparently you're allowed to voice your opinion but the moment any of us voice our opinions it's automatically classified as bad girling and attacking you, which is completely false. I was trying to have a civilized conversation and actually hear your thoughts on what I had proposed to you.
Children raised by gay parents are offered only one partnership model and are therefore more likely to be gay.
I believe that you are entitled to your own opinion and I respect that - even though I disagree with you, but there is just so much wrong with this sentence..When a kid has two dads and watches them kissing then assumes that the right thing to do is to find a partner of same gender, at least in the beginning of teenage life.
Let me ask you this - do you think homosexuality is a choice? Or something you can become after being exposed to?
When a kid has two dads and watches them kissing then assumes that the right thing to do is to find a partner of same gender, at least in the beginning of teenage life.
What sort of lesson are you proposing happens when a child is raised in an environment with a mother and a father? I'm assuming you are going to say that they grow up to have what you consider a "traditional" relationship. How do you explain a child favoring a homosexual relationship even after being raised by a mother and a father?Homosexual behavior is a bad habit that people fall into because they are sexually permissive and experimental. This view holds rat homosexuals choose their lifestyle as the result of self-indulgence and an unwillingness to play by society rules.
Homosexual behavior is a bad habit that people fall into because they are sexually permissive and experimental. This view holds rat homosexuals choose their lifestyle as the result of self-indulgence and an unwillingness to play by society rules.
Another view is that homosexual behavior is a mental illness, symptomatic of arrested development. Probably because they have unnatural or perverse desires as a consequence of poor familial relations in childhood or some other trauma.
Homosexual behavior is a bad habit that people fall into because they are sexually permissive and experimental. This view holds rat homosexuals choose their lifestyle as the result of self-indulgence and an unwillingness to play by society rules.
Another view is that homosexual behavior is a mental illness, symptomatic of arrested development. Probably because they have unnatural or perverse desires as a consequence of poor familial relations in childhood or some other trauma.
Homosexual behavior is a bad habit that people fall into because they are sexually permissive and experimental. This view holds rat homosexuals choose their lifestyle as the result of self-indulgence and an unwillingness to play by society rules.
Another view is that homosexual behavior is a mental illness, symptomatic of arrested development. Probably because they have unnatural or perverse desires as a consequence of poor familial relations in childhood or some other trauma.
http://www.biblebelievers.com/Cameron3.html
There you go.
That still doesn't give you the right to insult me and others like that.I haven't insulted anyone at all. I c/p some researches regarding homosexuality. Take a good look at it.
Homosexual behavior is a bad habit that people fall into because they are sexually permissive and experimental. This view holds rat homosexuals choose their lifestyle as the result of self-indulgence and an unwillingness to play by society rules.
Another view is that homosexual behavior is a mental illness, symptomatic of arrested development. Probably because they have unnatural or perverse desires as a consequence of poor familial relations in childhood or some other trauma.
Children raised by gay parents are offered only one partnership model and are therefore more likely to be gay. May also raise confused children especially when they also start their own family. they will not be aware on how opposite sexes are living with each other. It may have a different psychological and emotional impact on the life of the child.
http://www.biblebelievers.com/Cameron3.html
There you go.
In 1986 the American Sociological Association passed a resolution stating, “The American Sociological Association officially and publicly states that Paul Cameron is not a sociologist, and condemns his consistent misrepresentation of sociological research
In 1996, the Board of Directors of the Canadian Psychological Association approved a position statement disassociating the organisation from Cameron's work on sexuality, stating that he had "consistently misinterpreted and misrepresented research on sexuality, homosexuality, and lesbianism"
I haven't insulted anyone at all. I c/p some researches regarding homosexuality. Take a good look at it.
Hidduh you're gay?
http://www.biblebelievers.com/Cameron3.html
There you go.
About the author of this article:Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_CameronIn 1986 the American Sociological Association passed a resolution stating, “The American Sociological Association officially and publicly states that Paul Cameron is not a sociologist, and condemns his consistent misrepresentation of sociological researchQuote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_CameronIn 1996, the Board of Directors of the Canadian Psychological Association approved a position statement disassociating the organisation from Cameron's work on sexuality, stating that he had "consistently misinterpreted and misrepresented research on sexuality, homosexuality, and lesbianism"
Which was the result of an investigation against Cameron because of articles that had the same base as the one you linked. One article from 1997 from a person with such subjectivity cannot be seen as a reliable source.
Well... here's the fact:Ok then let's say that's true. Since this is not a choice, how are you born differently then?
Born that way: 100%
This is NOT a choice
Im sorry if I offended anyone with my personal opinion about adoption.I clearly don't mind being hated for my beliefs. I'm sorry if someone felt offended but yet I cannot say I'm sorry for expressing it.
Ok then let's say that's true. Since this is not a choice, how are you born differently then?
NONE is born gay or straight.
Why dont we guys just put a lit on this topic...Its getting pretty harsh here..Clearly, in such topics like these we can see several different types of people, those who agree with it, those who don't(it's their opinion we got to respect it), and those who are too immature to even discuss about such topics, and the last type of people is what makes such topics to be locked.
Im sorry if I offended anyone with my personal opinion about adoption.
Please can someone close this topic?
Ok then let's say that's true. Since this is not a choice, how are you born differently then?
NONE is born gay or straight.
Why are you against love?I swear to God I'm not. I have nothing against you nor anyone here about being gays/bisexuals and I mean that from the bottom of my heart. I just can't support gay marriage adoption.
Homosexual behavior is a bad habit that people fall into because they are sexually permissive and experimental. This view holds rat homosexuals choose their lifestyle as the result of self-indulgence and an unwillingness to play by society rules.
Another view is that homosexual behavior is a mental illness, symptomatic of arrested development. Probably because they have unnatural or perverse desires as a consequence of poor familial relations in childhood or some other trauma.
That's a funny way to show dominance! :lol:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8gttC6P3bE&ab_channel=TheWizardWilly
Homosexual behavior is a bad habit that people fall into because they are sexually permissive and experimental.The thing is, you can post stuff this like and claim that it is your opinion and is therefore in some way protected, but statements like these are harmful because some people will actually read them and believe them, and eventually someone who actually has a say (like a politician, or indeed the majority of the electorate as a group) could feel this way and lead to discrimination with no actual basis. Of course people will attack you for saying that married gay couples should not be able to adopt, because frankly it's a stupid position to hold with no real sociological basis that could, if spread to the right place, cause many couples to not be able to adopt and leave many kids in orphanages for no good reason.
The thing is, you may have your own opinion when it comes to same-sex marriage/adoption. Sure, you may agree or disagree - that's the right every human being on this planet has. But that doesn't mean that you can go around insulting people because you believe those religious-based studies. You may see it as the truth or as a valid scientific study, but to others it might be insulting. Would be nice to think about that before joining a discussion like this instead of randomly posting quotes from a webpage and labeling it as a fact.I don't give a shit about those so called religious-based studies. I didn't even notice the link was called "bible believers", I was just reading few researches and articles regarding homosexuality/bisexuality due to the fact we had those arguments. My opinion regarding the whole thing differs from many in here and I do not feel sorry about expressing it, not at all.
As long as their not allowed to adopt kids, I'm fine with it.
What surprises me is that you actually think you're not a bunch of discriminating homophobes.
Well I hope you two never gets children. :)
We're almost in year 2016.None here's arguing if gays are good or bad.
Y'all niggas still arguing if gay people are good or bad.
What the fuck.