Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Teddy on April 14, 2016, 09:52:37 pm
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Hola,
We're are happy to announce that alongside the release of RS5.2 we will also be releasing a new revamped administration system and structure. We want a system that puts the players first, including new players, and weeds out the troublesome players and hackers. In addition to a totally new /report system which is based on support tickets, we're also changing our structure by introducing two new administrative positions: helper, and senior administrator.
Helpers are not quite moderators and have no administrative ability (such as kick, or warn) but have the ability to teleport to new players and help them out. Helpers also stand out in /h and have the objective purely of helping progress the community.
Senior administrators are administrators who have proven themselves over an extended period of time. They are skilled, professional and on every scale demonstrate the excellence we hope to achieve. They are given a bit more responsibility to oversee the current team, handle unban requests, and of course deal with ban evaders.
We announced a little bit about the changes of a support system compared to a plain report system. But what does this mean for you? What exactly is different for the user when reporting another player? Absolutely nothing. You can still use /report as normal and you may notice the wording when an admin accepts the report is a bit different, and that there is a ticket number. You may also notice you'll get alerted when a staff member closes your report. We've also introduced the /support command. Did you get stuck in a building? Rather than typing /admins and using /pm, simply type "/support I am stuck in a building"... and an available administrator will claim your ticket and aid you. If you are still pesky and want to use /pm, the admin will simply open the ticket on your behalf. All administrative actions and support must be tied to a ticket.
We hope these changes only help reinforce the great things to come with RS5.2 and help focus on retention when it comes to new players. We of course always expect you, the players, to help make new players feel welcome but having dedicated people is always a plus.
Kindly,
Teddy
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Punishments visible for the reporter and punished person only? :janek:
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One of the main differences now compared to the past seems to be that the administrators seem to be less "fun."
It's not a bad thing for admins to use their privileges to help host events, or generally be a pleasant annoyance as they have done previously (pretending to be ghosts while spectating and suchlike). The odd fight club on a normally inaccessible skyscraper is normally a good shout.
People may scream out that this isn't "real RP", but that had always been one of the attractions of Argonath to me, being unique, and to me it just seems to have lost that edge.
EDIT: I'm speaking from the perspective of somebody who hasn't played actively since pre-2013, but this means I can clearly see the gradual changes that may have taken place since then that somebody fully active may not have quite noticed.
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That is nice.
Punishments visible for the reporter and punished person only? :janek:
Check /settings..
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Love the sound of the /support thing!
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One of the main differences now compared to the past seems to be that the administrators seem to be less "fun."
It's not a bad thing for admins to use their privileges to help host events, or generally be a pleasant annoyance as they have done previously (pretending to be ghosts while spectating and suchlike). The odd fight club on a normally inaccessible skyscraper is normally a good shout.
People may scream out that this isn't "real RP", but that had always been one of the attractions of Argonath to me, being unique, and to me it just seems to have lost that edge.
I must've missed where the administrator's job is all about being "fun". Obviously a bit of fun is fine but running around hosting unrealistic nonrp event's every other day is quite shit. I don't mind every now and then but the focus of the server and it's team should be promoting roleplay and not promoting the opposite. Those events serve no other purpose than to be counter productive to sustaining roleplay and only feeds into the money hungry mindset that has plagued the community for so long.
If you are here to roleplay, it's fine. If you are here for doing random event stuff, I'd recommend a free roam server. We're not that anymore. We're a roleplay server.
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Nice :app:
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Great news, keep up the godo work guys! :app:
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Astounding work mate, You are just Awsome!
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Sounds good so far. Just a bit confused. What about the New moderator wave that'll be announced after RS5.2. Will the helpers be accepted in it too? Or only new moderators?
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Sounds good so far. Just a bit confused. What about the New moderator wave that'll be announced after RS5.2. Will the helpers be accepted in it too? Or only new moderators?
Helpers too.
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Nice idea, well done guys. :app:
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Nice. I suppose having a ticket # will make it easier for higher-ups to check through logs if absolutely necessary, eh? Glad to see the initiative :)
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I must've missed where the administrator's job is all about being "fun". Obviously a bit of fun is fine but running around hosting unrealistic nonrp event's every other day is quite shit. I don't mind every now and then but the focus of the server and it's team should be promoting roleplay and not promoting the opposite. Those events serve no other purpose than to be counter productive to sustaining roleplay and only feeds into the money hungry mindset that has plagued the community for so long.
If you are here to roleplay, it's fine. If you are here for doing random event stuff, I'd recommend a free roam server. We're not that anymore. We're a roleplay server.
I understand mate. Take care.
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We're not that anymore.
In other words with RS5.2 Argonath changes it's status from light rp server to heavy?
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In other words with RS5.2 Argonath changes it's status from light rp server to heavy?
(http://i.imgur.com/EeEHSb6.gif)
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In other words with RS5.2 Argonath changes it's status from light rp server to heavy?
No, this announcement didn't imply that either. (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=115903.0)
Teddy simply said that Argonath RPG is a roleplay server. Yet people have been treating as a freeroam/CnR server for the past few years, we're shifting the server away from that.
The players however, who do not treat this as a roleplay server will have to change lest we have to drive it; which comes with a loss for both sides.
All in all, RS5.2 should be an incentive for you all to give back. The team has given you a garden treated with love, do not trample on its flowers with your sickening manslaughter for false respects.
(Had to vent out a little bit.)
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Alright... now let's only hope RS5.2 increase the playerbase.
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Yet people have been treating as a freeroam/CnR server for the past few years, we're shifting the server away from that
To be fair RS4 was almost a freeroam server with roleplay capabilities. There was no incentive to roleplay, people who actually did roleplay were praised because it was so abnormal.
But who could blame them? There was nothing other to do than the American dream, get a car, get a house, have money, possibly join a group that you can be friends with and you were done, from there on you were just acultivating money until you got bored.
I'm glad people are role-playing, it feels refreshing walking to a person, taking out a knife and them react to it with roleplay not pulling out a SPAS. I have no idea what happened in the past 2 years that changed the community but I'm glad it did, and to whoever motivated it, thank you.
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I can't see the player base growing significantly, certainly not on the SA:MP server.
The game was released in 2005 on the PC, so the PC release is getting on for 11 years old. No offence to VC:MP players, but we've all seen how much less activity that server has now than previously.
I was speaking to a 14 year old the other day who came in on work experience, he referred to San Andreas as the "old" GTA with "pixelated" graphics. A lot of our new players (whether we officially recognise it or not) were youngsters in their early teens, I joined when I was 14, I many know others that joined when they were younger. SA:MP simply isn't attracting the attention of young people like it's more modern counterparts.
People who were attracted to SA:MP are getting older. Those people over 18 who played are getting to the point where they have serious families, real responsibilities. Those of us who played in their early teens are growing up, found new excitements, whether it be cars, football, motorbikes, better games, females... etc
The best chance in my opinion would be to try and retain the players you have, whenever you restructure a server and its scripts you rely on the existing players being pleased and the new players finding it entertaining. RS5 did not work. Existing players (I concede, for often selfish reasons) were annoyed and left, and we were too late on the curve to attract replacements.
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But who could blame them? There was nothing other to do than the American dream, get a car, get a house, have money, possibly join a group that you can be friends with and you were done, from there on you were just acultivating money until you got bored.
There is always something to do, you just have to discover, create, or find it.
Roleplay is based on this: It's the result of two or more individuals interacting with each other, both playing the roles they want to be and displaying this in their own unique fashion.
It's been the same argument elsewhere, but I am glad to see it's improving too, despite that the negative influences are still on the surface, a glimmer of hope shines inbetween.
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In other words with RS5.2 Argonath changes it's status from light rp server to heavy?
No. If you would use your reading skills you'd notice I said we're not a freeroam server. That's a hell of a leap to a heavy one.
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Edit: Removed own comment.