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Title: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Gird3r on January 09, 2008, 11:21:38 am
As i have told my opinion to many times about vista sucks. And players says vista is the best. Other say windows xp is the best etc. Therefor i'm starting this topic to disscuss it.

Take your best arguments.

Wich one is the best? Please i want no flame in this topic so talk in a mature way.

Let the battle begin.

My arguments on why Vista sucks:

*It is not comptiable with most games for the moment.
*Was realeased to early
*Sucks graphics like candy.
*Only Vista are allowed to use Direct X 10. Fuck that.
*Voice recnognition (who wants that anyway?)
*bugs

Why i think Xp is the ideal chooise.

*It's compitiable with almost all games. Vista just see the future and don't care about old good games
*It's stable unless you crack something up in a wrong way.
*It's easy to use and have a little more freedom, Vista tries to solve problems by itself wich sucks because it can go wrong.
*Once again it's stable.

And for all you IE users who complain you get trojan with it in XP.
Stop surfing wierd sites and get a anti virus.

My arguments. Lets hear yours. :box:
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Obi1 on January 09, 2008, 11:26:38 am
Woo XP ftw! I had vista it took me an hour to setup i put in a game and the whole frigging thing crashed, I needed to download a patch which took 30 minutes.. and then finally when i get my game running it's so laggy..

XP hasnt had any problems for me so far and im using IE so XP pwns

 :ps: Put a poll at the top?
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Watti on January 09, 2008, 11:29:59 am
ok

XP.. ALL GAMING COMPUTERS MUST HAVE IT

Vista... For all Family Computers for School work and Business work... Not recommended  for Gaming
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: rJCaiG on January 09, 2008, 11:41:10 am
XP all the way, used it since SP2 came out..good stuff, doesn't fail me (too often), and it works good.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: tiderman on January 09, 2008, 11:43:38 am

*Only Vista are allowed to use Direct X 10. Fuck that.

.. Doesnt that make vista better? Well it sure doesnt make Vista suck..
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: PMP on January 09, 2008, 01:35:57 pm
.. Doesnt that make vista better? Well it sure doesnt make Vista suck..

XP can use that too, otherwise recent games wouldn't run.

XP is the windows I hate the most, cause it was shitty gfx, it take too much time to open and account, it's slow and XP was much more virus than vista.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Gandalf on January 09, 2008, 02:41:12 pm
Lets make this an honest debate...

Why will Vista suck ?
- Because your PC is just up to the minimal system requirements
- Because people can not get used to new things
- Because the increased security makes you click 4 times more

Why does XP suck ?
- Because it can not use the capacity of the latest systems
- Because it has too many security leaks in its design
- Because its old

When XP just came out, the same happened. People would rather stay with the old Windows 98 (some with ME) as it looked more familiar, was tuned in so it would just crash once a day, or because the PC was just too old to run it in any way fast. Many people switched the look of XP back to W98 as they did not get used to the new way in which stuff was ordered.
Right now we get the same, but as XP has had a relatively long life compared to the earlier Windows versions that were changed after 2 or 3 years there are a lot more people who are used to it and just complain about the new issues.

I have found little problems with Vista, and am usually running 10-20 tasks at the same time. The annoying install procedures are something that are just once for most things,  as since Windows 98 I have re-installed my various PC's about 3 times. But I am of course an exception as..
1. I seem to know what I am doing
2. I accept that in a new version things are different and just explore how to do what I want

Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Watti on January 09, 2008, 02:53:10 pm
yea Ronnel :) i was on 98 till about 2005
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: VMNT on January 09, 2008, 03:06:51 pm
yea Ronnel :) i was on 98 till about 2005


I was on 98se until 12 December.... 2007.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Gimli on January 09, 2008, 03:24:30 pm
*Sucks graphics like candy.
When I ordered my laptop, I thought that Vista's graphics would suck and I would end up going to the classic theme like I did with XP... When I saw Vista's graphics, I loved them....
* You can go to the "Classic" theme.

*Only Vista are allowed to use Direct X 10. Fuck that.
Hey, that's a problem for XP, not for vista :).

*Voice recnognition (who wants that anyway?)
*If you don't want to use it, don't.. No one forces you to, and it's not even turned on by default.

*bugs
I only know one bug that will be fixed in SP1... (Losing your resolution settings.)


*It's stable unless you crack something up in a wrong way.
Or if you go to a warez site with internet explorer :D


-xcasio
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Ice on January 09, 2008, 05:17:31 pm
Vista all the way.....

With Vista you can play ALL games, as long as you know how to set it up, usually its just setting compability mode.
About DirectX 10, that is XP sucking, not Vista.
Vista is more safe, believe it or not.
All the messages when moving folders, deleting something and security messages, can be disabled.
Graphics are so much better designed than XP.
It is stable and fast, as long as you dont download junk, or start messing with too much crap.
You can get an addon to remove all the small arrows from icons/shortcuts.
And you cannot say, voice recognition sucks, as it might be good for some people.
Vista is the ultimate choice, if you belong to the group, that has nothing against a SMALL change in layout.

The problem, as I see it, is often the users, not Vista. People try Vista for 2 days or some, and then say "OMG Vista sucks" when they didnt even give it a chance. If you get Vista, and already think bad about it, before trying it, there is no way you are gonna like it.
Im really sick of people saying Vista sucks, when they never gave it a chance. I haven't found as much as ONE game yet, that I cannot run because of Vista. So to the whiners about gaming on Vista: Go home with all that fake talking! You can play anything you want on Vista, if you give it a try, and do some settings.


Gird3r how long have you tried/used Vista? As far as I know you don't like any changes at all. Example: A quote from you "SAMP is like giving up roleplay" There is nothing wrong with you, not liking SAMP. But saying generally that SAMP sucks, is not correct as I see it. Just because you dont like SAMP, it does not mean that it sucks.

As I have said before: If all people gave Vista a chance, and started using that instead, it would be alot easier for Microsoft, to fix the bugs. Example: The new scripts from SAMP, everyone were like "Omg so much crashes" but because they had no possibility of staying on the old scripts, the bugs were found quickly, and fixed.

Theres nothing wrong in not liking Vista, but saying "Vista sucks" I think is false, as it may be the perfect system for other people.


Sorry if anything seems offending, I do not mean it as an offence, I just want to tell how I feel.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Alsatian on January 09, 2008, 05:31:59 pm
for me...XP ftw!!!1!   :bow: *bows to XP* :bow:
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Goodblue on January 09, 2008, 06:48:35 pm
XP!!!

I hate Vista..
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: tiderman on January 09, 2008, 07:08:16 pm
XP can use that too, otherwise recent games wouldn't run.
DX10?
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: PMP on January 09, 2008, 08:38:07 pm
DX10?
yeh, don't some games need that to run?
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Gird3r on January 09, 2008, 08:59:56 pm
Gird3r how long have you tried/used Vista? As far as I know you don't like any changes at all. Example: A quote from you "SAMP is like giving up roleplay" There is nothing wrong with you, not liking SAMP. But saying generally that SAMP sucks, is not correct as I see it. Just because you dont like SAMP, it does not mean that it sucks.

I like changes that works with what i think is fun.

I want to defend my point on sa:mp sucks by going off-topic.
My arguments for hate sa:mp.

*No stable netcode (I have played sa:mp)
*Crashes that is annoying. (yes all programs crash now and then)
*No fun gamemodes (always the damn Los santos shit and las venturas game mode hurray, mostly these gamemodes is what i see)
Also San Andreas is to big to roleplay. Atleast i see it so. That's why i said "playing sa-mp is like giving up roleplay". That is what i felt for it. A very big place to run around in and chase criminals mile after mile. No thanks.



If i didin't like changes at all i would not have a new computer with things that i'm not used too.
I woulnd't have agreed to move to this city (Just that is a whole change to my life style).
I woulnd't agree to see my dad with another woman than my mother etc.

As i said i like changes that are fun. But changes that does not comply and can improve my attempt at having fun in my life while i can sucks. For me.

Okay, now onto vista:

Is expensive if you want ultimate version (over 5000-6000 kr? Jesus that sucks hard time)
Comes with the so almighty nice looking art that also sucks perfomance like candy.
Only Vista is allowed to use DX 10 as far as i know.
Vista still sucks graphics like candy. In most cases.

I never used Vista. And i don't need what Microsoft shat out of thier asshole. Windows XP they shat out is good enough for what i do and what is fun. I don't need a OS with the o so almighty functions like swapping beetween screens in a cool way and voice reqnogition.

Oh and about the graphics. For those who want to spend money to be able to have these graphics and think it's cool go a head. I rather hold on performance than graphics.

Btw for Windows XP users who hate Vista:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVbf9tOGwno&feature=related

Nice. That's the way to install.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on January 09, 2008, 09:30:24 pm
This reminds me, back on other forums, there were two boys, they were both fanboys of Xbox 360 - the other, PS3.

Fanboy for the 360 said xbox 360 was the best, and PS3 sucked all the way.
Fanboy for the PS3 said PS3 was the best, and PS3 sucked all the way.

I went an asked them two a question.  Do either of you have both 360 and PS3?
Wanna know what they said?

Nope, i dont own a PS3
Nope, i dont own a xbox 360.

then i said, Well why shit on them, if you have never played/owned/worked with one?

Gird3r, you never answered Iceboy's question.
"How long have you tried/used Vista?"

My question,
Gird3r, have you ever had Vista?

I got it on this PC, and guess what.
No problems after tinkering with compatibility with ANY of my Programs.
So, you need to like, go somewhere else with the 'Vista isnt compatible with anything' and the 'Vista sucks, XP all the way'
Im guessing you need to change your mindstate from

"XP all the way, vista sucks"
to
"XP all the way, cause i cant sit down and learn how vista works, and i am very lazy, so thats why vista sucks and XP pawns"

Go read what Gandalf posted.
Go read what Iceboy posted.
Go read what I posted.
Do the math.
:ps: that guy is a dumbass cause he cant install anything properly and he cant configure his 'brand new' PC.

Gird3r, just because YOU dont know how YOUR PC works, its not Window Vista's fault, its YOU'RE FAULT
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: PMP on January 09, 2008, 09:35:05 pm
What about the new Linux, no1 talks about Linux Beryl?
[yt=425,350]ZD7QraljRfM[/yt]

I have both Vista and XP, as son as I got inet on the vista pc, never used the XP one anymore.
Vista is much more secure.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Carhartt on January 09, 2008, 09:47:34 pm
Well, the difference between DX 10 and DX 9 is very big. I do not have any problems with Vista.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Gird3r on January 09, 2008, 10:39:06 pm
This reminds me, back on other forums, there were two boys, they were both fanboys of Xbox 360 - the other, PS3.

Fanboy for the 360 said xbox 360 was the best, and PS3 sucked all the way.
Fanboy for the PS3 said PS3 was the best, and PS3 sucked all the way.

I went an asked them two a question.  Do either of you have both 360 and PS3?
Wanna know what they said?

Nope, i dont own a PS3
Nope, i dont own a xbox 360.

then i said, Well why shit on them, if you have never played/owned/worked with one?

Gird3r, you never answered Iceboy's question.
"How long have you tried/used Vista?"

My question,
Gird3r, have you ever had Vista?

I got it on this PC, and guess what.
No problems after tinkering with compatibility with ANY of my Programs.
So, you need to like, go somewhere else with the 'Vista isnt compatible with anything' and the 'Vista sucks, XP all the way'
Im guessing you need to change your mindstate from

"XP all the way, vista sucks"
to
"XP all the way, cause i cant sit down and learn how vista works, and i am very lazy, so thats why vista sucks and XP pawns"

Go read what Gandalf posted.
Go read what Iceboy posted.
Go read what I posted.
Do the math.
:ps: that guy is a dumbass cause he cant install anything properly and he cant configure his 'brand new' PC.

Gird3r, just because YOU dont know how YOUR PC works, its not Window Vista's fault, its YOU'RE FAULT

I have read all your posts. And i did answer !ceboys question.

Want me to say it again?

"I never used Vista"
I'm happy with the OS i have and i don't need that oh so almighty Vista.

I know how my computer works. Don't try to tell me how my own computer works.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Legolas on January 09, 2008, 11:10:19 pm
How to instal windows vista... rofl, he is my hero.

Anyway, vista will not run on my computer, so im neutral in it. But from i remember alot of people have same problems with XP when they change 98se. XP have alot problems on start too. I sugest to whait till updates. should help.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on January 09, 2008, 11:25:29 pm
This reminds me, back on other forums, there were two boys, they were both fanboys of Xbox 360 - the other, PS3.

Fanboy for the 360 said xbox 360 was the best, and PS3 sucked all the way.
Fanboy for the PS3 said PS3 was the best, and PS3 sucked all the way.

I went an asked them two a question.  Do either of you have both 360 and PS3?
Wanna know what they said?

Nope, i dont own a PS3
Nope, i dont own a xbox 360.

then i said, Well why shit on them, if you have never played/owned/worked with one?

"I never used Vista"
This is so damn funny!
You are like a kid who says milk taste's bad, when he never tried milk in his life :lol:
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on January 09, 2008, 11:28:16 pm
What about the new Linux, no1 talks about Linux Beryl?

I have both Vista and XP, as son as I got inet on the vista pc, never used the XP one anymore.
Vista is much more secure.

Dang how awsome is that!?
I want linux just because of the 'water' screen effect :D
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Legolas on January 09, 2008, 11:29:20 pm
well i found verry userful tool

[yt=425,350]KyLqUf4cdwc[/yt]
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on January 09, 2008, 11:34:53 pm
Hahahahahahah :lol:

Its funny when he talks under his breath, and it prints it on the screen
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: PMP on January 09, 2008, 11:45:44 pm
Hahahahahahah :lol:

Its funny when he talks under his breath, and it prints it on the screen
I wanted to try, but my system language isn't compatible, how to change it?
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Gird3r on January 09, 2008, 11:48:56 pm
This is so damn funny!
You are like a kid who says milk taste's bad, when he never tried milk in his life :lol:

Still i see no reason for you to tell me that i don't know how my computer works.

I do not want to use Vista. I'm happy with my fucking xp okay?

Comprende? Good.

Keep on the arguments people.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Pandalink on January 13, 2008, 04:49:47 am
I didn't at first like the idea of Vista. I actually hated it, without ever having used it.

So, my brother got it on his new Laptop, and whilst he was away my parents wanted me to use it for something in another room (away from my Desktop) - viewing a Sports Channel stream on a website. I said "Ok, so what, its Vista. It really, really can't be that bad."

Well, let me assure you that after attempting to open a webpage, and download a specialised video player.. it really, really is that bad. It was slow, sloppy, and difficult to use. Also, the minor argument of "It looks nicer" is also not true - it looks rubbish. My Custom XP Theme looks way better than the Vista thing, and the Vista.. Mac-Like-Thing.. in the top right really put me off (it kept popping up).
Afterwards, I switched the the Mac OS X nearby to have a go on that. I have to say, I found that easier to use. And I hate Macs, and can't use them for anything, ever.

XP all the way, my new Alienware PC is shipping with it.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: HunterVISTA on January 13, 2008, 05:34:26 am
As i have told my opinion to many times about vista sucks. And players says vista is the best. Other say windows xp is the best etc. Therefor i'm starting this topic to disscuss it.

Take your best arguments.

Wich one is the best? Please i want no flame in this topic so talk in a mature way.

Let the battle begin.

My arguments on why Vista sucks:

*It is not comptiable with most games for the moment.
*Was realeased to early
*Sucks graphics like candy.
*Only Vista are allowed to use Direct X 10. Fuck that.
*Voice recnognition (who wants that anyway?)
*bugs

Why i think Xp is the ideal chooise.

*It's compitiable with almost all games. Vista just see the future and don't care about old good games
*It's stable unless you crack something up in a wrong way.
*It's easy to use and have a little more freedom, Vista tries to solve problems by itself wich sucks because it can go wrong.
*Once again it's stable.

And for all you IE users who complain you get trojan with it in XP.
Stop surfing wierd sites and get a anti virus.

My arguments. Lets hear yours. :box:
i think that vista does suck. The bugs are horoble and the data is all over the place. WHen i got a new vista computer i got 3 gigs of ram a nice g-force 8500 graphics card and it still runs laggy and does "blue screen". I never had this problem On my old desktop this "blue screen" witch is when the computer cannot process a program when it starts up so your screen goes blank. Yet a notther flaw in vista....what a suprize. I called customer support witch did not help and said that it was a programing error witch is ovious. I finally got so mad at it because no games would work and there was a delay for every program i opened up i sold it back to best buy. I eventually bought an alein ware laptop with XP professional 17 inch witch has worked great even though it was like 4 grand and i owe plenty of people money witch i cannot pay back. In the end after looking at the bill for my old vista computer and aleinware computer i was out 4 grand....
damit! lol
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on January 13, 2008, 08:01:09 am
Girder.

You said you hate vista, for 'general hating it' reasons.
But then again you have never used it, or attempted to use it.
Thus you not being able to understand how your PC works.

I got Vista home premium, 1 gig of RAM, mine has never been slow, or 'sucked up gfx like candy'...
After 24 seconds of tweaking some of this, uninstalling that, click this & that, delete one of those, my gaming is perfect.
My computer has very good performance, for being a peice of crap.
I dont lag or have slowdowns, at all.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: DougR on January 13, 2008, 10:49:41 am
Is expensive if you want ultimate version (over 5000-6000 kr? Jesus that sucks hard time)
OEM. Ultimate costs, what, 160€ OEM, 20€ more for 64-bit version. Although you're "supposed to be a prebuilt computer bulider", it's still legal.

And what's your problem with voice recognition? It doesn't make Vista shit just cause it is. Get better argument points.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Gird3r on January 13, 2008, 10:57:50 am
OEM. Ultimate costs, what, 160€ OEM, 20€ more for 64-bit version. Although you're "supposed to be a prebuilt computer bulider", it's still legal.

And what's your problem with voice recognition? It doesn't make Vista shit just cause it is. Get better argument points.

5000-6000 kr is enough exspensive in sweden.

Voice recognition? Who wants that anyway?
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on January 13, 2008, 10:59:31 am
for people who have handicaps...
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: PMP on January 13, 2008, 12:50:43 pm
Gird3r discriminates the def people
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Gird3r on January 13, 2008, 12:55:32 pm
for people who have handicaps...

Okay that would be the only good point.

Gird3r discriminates the def people

Discriminating? Gtfo.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: PMP on January 13, 2008, 12:56:58 pm
no need to get pissed of
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: DougR on January 13, 2008, 01:19:10 pm
Okay that would be the only good point.

Discriminating? Gtfo.
You still fail to provide valid points beside the price: everything else you've mentioned just doesn't cut it. Voice recognition might be useless to the normal person, but that doesn't make Vista bad.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Pandalink on January 13, 2008, 01:26:48 pm
I have to say, the general universal incompatability with many things would put me off. Though Hayden makes a valid point that the tweaking would fix many bugs, the fact that such tweaking is required is generally not acceptable. XP ships perfectly usable, and any tweaking you do is a bonus, not a necessity.

I'm sorry, but I'm paying more for XP than I would for Vista with this PC, so I'm thinking that I'm pretty sure on this.  :)
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on January 13, 2008, 11:29:51 pm
I have to say, the general universal incompatability with many things would put me off. Though Hayden makes a valid point that the tweaking would fix many bugs, the fact that such tweaking is required is generally not acceptable. XP ships perfectly usable, and any tweaking you do is a bonus, not a necessity.

I'm sorry, but I'm paying more for XP than I would for Vista with this PC, so I'm thinking that I'm pretty sure on this.  :)

"weaking you do is a bonus, not a necessity." Yea, i did it, cause some things made me mad, cause it slowed my 'speed' down.
I hate anything that slows my PC down, i like to do everything at lightspeed (look at me drive in SA:MP  :banana: )

The only thing that is 'bad, or makes vista totally shit because im a dumbshit and dont understand the apsect of vista's very useful security' - is the ignorant user.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Knoothead on January 14, 2008, 05:04:04 pm
Vista pwns i think bcz it looks better :)
never used it. :L
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: tiderman on January 14, 2008, 07:21:20 pm
both Vista and XP has its up and downs.. None is perfect..

If you hate (for some reason.. cant understand how you can hate a os that much) vista, then dont buy it.  :neutral:
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: GTAsoldier on January 20, 2008, 06:59:01 pm
I thought Vista would be cool until I saw negative reviews. XP for life.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Neave on January 20, 2008, 07:01:44 pm
yeh, don't some games need that to run?


umm.. no, there is no such thing as a game only using DX10, until June of this year all games have to be usable with DX9 (Windows XP will not be sold after June 1, 2008) Only Vista can use DX10
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: PMP on May 07, 2008, 10:36:29 pm
Some people, read idiots. Bought new laptops. But imediatly after opening it, they unistaled Vista and installed XP.

DON'T BE THIS STUPID!!! Or you will have lots of drivers problems that you will only be able to solve if you are an expert.

I only say this because 5 guys with a computer like mine add me on msn to ask me how to solve their problem with drivers.
Lucky for them, the LG E500 comes with a reboot DVD that resets your pc to factory default.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on May 07, 2008, 11:40:25 pm
This reminds me, back on other forums, there were two boys, they were both fanboys of Xbox 360 - the other, PS3.

Fanboy for the 360 said xbox 360 was the best, and PS3 sucked all the way.
Fanboy for the PS3 said PS3 was the best, and PS3 sucked all the way.

I went an asked them two a question.  Do either of you have both 360 and PS3?
Wanna know what they said?

Nope, i dont own a PS3
Nope, i dont own a xbox 360.

then i said, Well why shit on them, if you have never played/owned/worked with one?

Gird3r, you never answered Iceboy's question.
"How long have you tried/used Vista?"

My question,
Gird3r, have you ever had Vista?

I got it on this PC, and guess what.
No problems after tinkering with compatibility with ANY of my Programs.
So, you need to like, go somewhere else with the 'Vista isnt compatible with anything' and the 'Vista sucks, XP all the way'
Im guessing you need to change your mindstate from

"XP all the way, vista sucks"
to
"XP all the way, cause i cant sit down and learn how vista works, and i am very lazy, so thats why vista sucks and XP pawns"

Go read what Gandalf posted.
Go read what Iceboy posted.
Go read what I posted.
Do the math.
:ps: that guy is a dumbass cause he cant install anything properly and he cant configure his 'brand new' PC.

Gird3r, just because YOU dont know how YOUR PC works, its not Window Vista's fault, its YOU'RE FAULT

Quoted for the truth.
And my post wraps this subject up.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Knoothead on May 08, 2008, 07:36:54 am
When I bought my PC like 3 parts said it were made for Vista but im using it on XP will i get better performance and faster computer if i switch to Vista?
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Clooak on May 08, 2008, 09:55:42 am
As Gandalf stated in the first page We were having the same situation when people were moving from ME to XP 2000 to XP and so on. Of course there will be incompatibility Its the same as Liero and all other famosu games that was made for 98 When we moved to XP it stopped working thats just something u have to live with. Now everybody seems to love XP and the majority is not using 98 just to play the old games. If you still want to play the OLD games Just stick with XP. Sooner or later you will have to move to Vista, Cus of incompatibility with XP,  You see my point?

Vista, Works pretty well with Ultimate 64bitars, I like it because you have readyboost let you use an flash drive as a extra memory and so  on also if you have a little extra space on your memory Vista can take that and let the graphicard use the additional memory. Pretty nice!

Thats why im not using XP Everything works as good as XP(for me) at vista ultimate (64bits)

Cheers!
Hope you all will move to Vista :)
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Icarus on May 08, 2008, 11:52:07 am
Uhhh

From the tech guys at pc world dundee, UK (Basically the best in scotland... maybe UK)

Vista - the ultimate pain in the ass OS

Slow

Warnings for EVERYTHING (zomg are you sure you want to open this jpeg? it may have a picture in it!!1)

Expensive peice of crap.

Its just a shiny buggy xp.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: 9r2e5i3k on May 08, 2008, 03:31:57 pm
Its the same as Liero and all other famosu games that was made for 98 When we moved to XP it stopped working

FYI, Liero works under WinXP, but:

a) without sound
b) when launched through DOS-Box (emulator)
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Jserg on May 08, 2008, 03:42:14 pm
If you want to have vista wait for an update that resolves all the bugs and problems



atm XP ftw
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: PMP on May 08, 2008, 06:16:58 pm
FYI, Liero works under WinXP, but:

a) without sound
b) when launched through DOS-Box (emulator)
Liero extreme works on XP and linux.


Vista - the ultimate pain in the ass OS

Slow (1)

Warnings for EVERYTHING (zomg are you sure you want to open this jpeg? it may have a picture in it!!1) (2)

Expensive peice of crap. (3)

Its just a shiny buggy xp. (4)

1. It's not slow, I have no problems with it's speed. And If I had, I could use a pen drive to speed it up. Like clooak said.

2. You can turn them off... But I won't cause they have a purpose. They avoid .exe files to open and avoid windowns files from being edited without you knowing.
They don't show up as frequent as you think. And they can be turned of, so thats no excuse.

3. Yes it is. But there are people that pay for PCs with it, and then change to XP. People that do this can only be marked as idiots.

4. Mine hasn't bugs... It had, but since the second update. No bugs at all.

I'm very happy with Vista. It took me a while to get used to, but know, when I use XP. It just looks like a prehistoric OS.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Goodblue on May 08, 2008, 06:43:26 pm
Vista is just crap if I hear all those bad things :lol: xD

so XP FTW!
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on May 09, 2008, 01:04:54 am
Yes, for gaming - XP is better (Performance wise)
Its a lighter OS for your PC to run, but not that much.

I must be the luckiest person ever, I've never had any problems with Vista what so ever.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Icarus on May 09, 2008, 01:12:49 am
.

1. It's not slow, I have no problems with it's speed. And If I had, I could use a pen drive to speed it up. Like clooak said.

We ran tests in the PC clinic.... We could all get an XP machine signing onto msn... starting a game up...  loggin in... booting up... all faster than a vista machine.... both OS's on two laptops with the exact same specs.. running vista home premium and XP media centre edition.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: PMP on May 09, 2008, 01:25:48 am
We ran tests in the PC clinic.... We could all get an XP machine signing onto msn... starting a game up...  loggin in... booting up... all faster than a vista machine.... both OS's on two laptops with the exact same specs.. running vista home premium and XP media centre edition.
Two PCs with the same spec, on runs XP, other runs win 98.
98 is faster so I guess 98 is better...
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: ToniaNVR on May 09, 2008, 10:04:37 am
Windows is for newbies..
Linux FTW!
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: PMP on May 09, 2008, 03:18:43 pm
Windows is for newbies..
Linux FTW!
Now that is a post that I can't disagree with  ;)
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Hess on May 09, 2008, 04:20:19 pm
i was on 98 till about 2005
Lol, same...

I seriously don't get why Vista is such a big deal, it doesn't do much of a better job than XP... maybe even a worse job. It has some extra features, but its not really worth the update in my opinion...
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: PMP on May 09, 2008, 04:34:25 pm
Lol, same...

I seriously don't get why Vista is such a big deal, it doesn't do much of a better job than XP... maybe even a worse job. It has some extra features, but its not really worth the update in my opinion...
I agree that it is not worth the update. I wouldn't pay for my Vista. But since it came with my PC.
The thing is that some people unistall Vista and install XP.

I don't think that Vista needs to be downgraded to XP.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Pandalink on May 09, 2008, 07:09:21 pm
I guess after the difficulty of using it becomes too much, people do just upgrade back to XP.
I use the word "upgrade" intentionally.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Gimli on May 09, 2008, 07:50:09 pm
We ran tests in the PC clinic.... We could all get an XP machine signing onto msn... starting a game up...  loggin in... booting up... all faster than a vista machine.... both OS's on two laptops with the exact same specs.. running vista home premium and XP media centre edition.

Was UAC enabled on the Vista machine?


I thought Vista would be cool until I saw negative reviews. XP for life.
Vista is just crap if I hear all those bad things :lol: xD
so XP FTW!

So try it, then you can say its crap..



-xcasio
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Pandalink on May 09, 2008, 08:44:45 pm
So try it, then you can say its crap..

-xcasio

One step ahead of you, and yes.. its very difficult to use and unnecessarily "crap" in many places.  :D
Sorry  :lol:
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Miami on May 09, 2008, 09:35:58 pm
lol Good ol' OSX Leopard for me...But thats not the point.  :lol:

I prefur XP by far, more compatible with programs. But like Watti said earlier:
Vista for school-work, XP for games
Thats what i do, i have XP on my gaming PC, and Vista is installed on my laptop in which i use for schoolwork and more stuff, not games.

Personnally i dont have anything against the OSes, i use both, and im happy with both.



Miami
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: PMP on May 09, 2008, 11:20:16 pm
I guess after the difficulty of using it becomes too much, people do just upgrade back to XP.
I use the word "upgrade" intentionally.
People that do that don't even try it for a month.
Probably never get to download the fixes.

And I bet they DOWNGRADED to an illegal copy of XP. When they had a legal copy of Vista.

The thing is. I see alot of XP users complain about Vista.
But I don't see any Vista user wanting to come back or saying bad thing about Vista.

Vista problems were a fact. Now, they are just myths.

Nowadays, every forum is full of fanboys. People that crap on things, they don't even know.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Clooak on May 12, 2008, 04:24:10 pm
FYI, Liero works under WinXP, but:

a) without sound
b) when launched through DOS-Box (emulator)

It was an example and sooner or later all will have Vista and look back and laugh when we used XP
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Carhartt on May 12, 2008, 04:28:46 pm
2009 there will be "Windows 7" anyways. :D
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: CM Daniel on May 12, 2008, 05:42:52 pm
I love Windows Vista. I've used it for quite a while now, and I have to say I'm very satisfied with it. It works tip-top, and I recommend it to everybody (if you have an old PC, make sure you check out the system requirements first :D).

If you're experiencing things that not work, just click on properties and set the compatibility mode for XP. Everything should work, and if it doesn't... Just use Google for christ sake!
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: tiderman on May 12, 2008, 06:15:23 pm
2009 there will be "Windows 7" anyways. :D
Yeah! Screw XP and screw vista.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Roadkill on August 29, 2008, 03:32:37 am
This is a topic I made on another forum and I cant be bothered to edit it...

(http://crypto.hot-spot.ro/images/windows-vista-logo-1.jpg) VS (http://crypto.hot-spot.ro/images/windows_xp_logo.jpg)

Well I just *cough* purchased Windows Vista and I'm disappointed, it's not really that much better than Windows XP. It's obviously a lot more aesthetically pleasing than Windows XP but Windows Vista makes my laptop have to work twice as hard to run the same applications as I would be running on Windows XP. Why anyone would pay for it, I do not know but is there something I am missing because I'm not impressed. It is nearly 2:30AM and so I can't really fully explore Windows Vista but from what I have seen so far, it's just a better looking version of Windows XP. Please elaborate and give me your opinion.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on August 29, 2008, 04:01:22 am
Well, Roadkill...
Think of it like this.

You have a guy that lifts weights at a gym, he can lift 200 pounds like paper.
Then you ask him to lift up 400 pounds, and he can't do it.

Then you have a huge guy walk in, and he lifts the 400 pound weight like it's nothing.
All in all - if you have a shitty computer, then Vista will be slow.
Vista is alot better than XP... *deja-vu*

Look at my recent posts instead.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Jserg on August 29, 2008, 04:07:01 am
Hayden, i think you are the only one that supports Vista

Hardware is not the problem when you have Vista

Vista is the problem when you have very good Hardware

Because, Vista is full of bugs , laggy, Doesnt let you to play some old awesome games...

And dont ask me how you know that, Because im currently running Vista, With Firefox dont run at all, Opera dont support flash player on Vista, And almost all downloaded games .rar dont work

And dont tell me its not Vista's fault, because everything on XP works Excellent
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on August 29, 2008, 04:10:59 am
Well, just like any application, some will have bugs, and some others will be bugless.
I'm just very very lucky to be honest, everything works 100% over here, no slowdowns, games start up within 5 seconds, heavy programs like Photoshop Cs3 & Sony Vegas Pro open within 6 seconds.

Jserg, did you install it yourself on a fresh harddrive?
Did you buy a pre-built PC?
Is UAC on?
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Roadkill on August 29, 2008, 04:13:03 am
Well, just like any application, some will have bugs, and some others will be bugless.
I'm just very very lucky to be honest, everything works 100% over here, no slowdowns, games start up within 5 seconds, heavy programs like Photoshop Cs3 & Sony Vegas Pro open within 6 seconds.

Jserg, did you install it yourself on a fresh harddrive?
Did you buy a pre-built PC?
Is UAC on?

Well mine works fine to but I'd rather get more performance for my money. But the only reason I am keeping Vista is because my eyes like it. :)

Windows XP will be exterminated soon anyway just like Windows 98 was.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Kitsune on August 29, 2008, 04:17:40 am
Hayden, i think you are the only one that supports Vista
Errrrrr.... no

Ofcourse it's going to be slower, but if it's that much of a problem then your specs probably aren't good enough to run it very smoothly.

As for compatibility issues, nearly all of them that I have encountered were resolved one way or another.

I have seen maybe a few bugs related to the visuals and some others but nothing that should be of any major problem.

Only bad thing that stands out atm is the half open TCP connection limit which I haven't found a way to increase without messing up my Wifi.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Neave on August 29, 2008, 04:40:46 am


Windows XP will be exterminated soon anyway just like Windows 98 was.

microsoft extended XP support until 2014.. lol, its not going away anytime soon...
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Jserg on August 29, 2008, 04:53:56 am
I got, 2bd Ram, 8600gt nvidia and 500gb hard drive, is taht not good for Vista?
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: schfifty on August 29, 2008, 05:23:25 am
I personally like XP better than vista. The other day, one of my friends wanted me to set up a shoutcast server for him. I got there and realized he had vista. I got it all set up but it took me an extra half hour because of the "Allow or Deny?" popups and the settings you had to go around. Plus, he probably had around 65 processes running :rofl:
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Kitsune on August 29, 2008, 06:34:58 am
I got it all set up but it took me an extra half hour because of the "Allow or Deny?" popups and the settings you had to go around.
That was the first thing I disabled when I got Vista, you don't need UAC.

I got, 2bd Ram, 8600gt nvidia and 500gb hard drive, is taht not good for Vista?
My ram usage is usually between 1.5GB and 2GB (I have 4GB) so I'm not sure if 2GB is enough, but the GPU and HD are good enough for Vista. What CPU do you have?
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Jserg on August 29, 2008, 07:18:40 am
Intel Core CPU 6600 2.40GHz 2,40GHz


Is that good?
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Kitsune on August 29, 2008, 07:37:29 am
Mine runs great on dual 2.5 so I'm assuming dual 2.4 should be enough.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: polopolo on August 29, 2008, 01:13:29 pm
I will just stay at Linux...
Then you don't get shit like this. And far more stable and secure. No need for anti-virus or other things.

But when you need Windows, I stay at Windows XP. Vista isn't ready for games, however, soon over an few years later, we will still need it, because then there are Windows Vista only games.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Cross on August 29, 2008, 01:23:10 pm
Vista isn't ready for games

How comes i can play every games without a problem? even games from 2003 work good...
And i just have Vista Home 32bit, never had a problem with it...
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Caltson on August 29, 2008, 01:23:46 pm
I will just stay at Linux...
Then you don't get shit like this. And far more stable and secure. No need for anti-virus or other things.

But when you need Windows, I stay at Windows XP. Vista isn't ready for games, however, soon over an few years later, we will still need it, because then there are Windows Vista only games.

But at least those games will be fully vista compatible  :roll:
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Cr4ig0 on August 29, 2008, 02:11:07 pm
vista - 30 seconds to load

XP - 30 minutes to load

probably because of the machines but i dont care. If GTA works on vista then i'm happy with it
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Roadkill on August 29, 2008, 02:35:42 pm
I've only ever experienced a computer running on a single core processor. :( I've been on dual cores in the shops but my laptop has a single core Intel Centrino and this computer just has an Intel Pentium 4. I'm not sure if you call them single cores but you get the picture. :roll:
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Omri on August 29, 2008, 03:56:19 pm
Simple, Im using XP and im gonna use it for long time I think. Im just in love in XP and gonna use it till another system who is better than XP.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Yihka on August 29, 2008, 04:21:45 pm
Vista works fine on my computer!

No lags, havent got a weird error yet (except closing sa:mp you get all those errors, but thats not vista error)... it all works fine!

Sometimes it says I cannot do something, so I run as administartor mode! Guess what... it works then! woo



XP - Use it on old - mid computers ( 2gb ram, less.. duo 2.4ghz, less.. video card 256mb or less)

VISTA - Use it on new computers ( 4gb ram, or higher duo 3ghz, or higher... videocard 512mb or higher)


It will just work fine!

NOTE: If you buy a computer with vista already installed on it, reinstall it! it will make a clean install and your vista will work without problems!




I use:

8gb RAM ( 4gb would be enough )

quad core 2.4ghz

9800gtx+

vista 64bit with SP1



NO PROBLEMS!!!

There is nothing wrong with vista, buy it when you buy a good system, you will notice it works perfectly!



EDIT:

all games so far work! I installed a 6 years old game and it just works... I dont see the problem  :)
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Proxan on August 29, 2008, 04:37:02 pm
XP all the way...
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Pandalink on August 29, 2008, 11:02:40 pm
I bet Star Wars Supremacy from 1998 would not work :).

I have an Alienware, and paid extra for XP. I just didn't want the ridiculous hassle of Vista. Plus, on a side note, XP looks better.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Proxan on August 29, 2008, 11:43:29 pm
I bet Star Wars Supremacy from 1998 would not work :).

I have an Alienware, and paid extra for XP. I just didn't want the ridiculous hassle of Vista. Plus, on a side note, XP looks better.

Well there are still some good ol' games that isnt compatible with XP  :cry:
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Grovyle on August 30, 2008, 01:00:23 am
naah 98 for the win :)

joke.

Well, I haven't tested Vista, but I already... used it. Visuals are nice, but I haven't played any game in it :P


Now for Windows XP, my current OS, it's good cuz I still can play Doom 1, and such.


So i can't compare.
Title: Re: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
Post by: Roadkill on August 30, 2008, 01:30:47 am
Windows Vista runs Microsoft Flight Simulator X a lot smoother for me which surprises me.
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