Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Cofiliano on September 23, 2018, 04:52:03 pm
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If we're actually expecting the server to bounce back, we need this as a priority, because no matter how much is Argonath as any other server based on veterans, we need a traffic of fresh blood asap via hosted list.
So what's the issue in it atm?
If funds are the problem, we can make a donation movement, I'm sure lots of veterans would jump in to help out for this cause.
If money is not the problem, then what?
Thoughts
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I'm willing to donate for this cause once I have available money to spend.
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Biggest yes I have ever given.
We'll see you at bootcamp.
Chippin in anytime!
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If funds are the problem, we can make a donation movement, I'm sure lots of veterans would jump in to help out for this cause.
I'm also willing to donate money for that fund.
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How much is it per month?
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I think about 35 euro's per month, if I remember correctly one of our staff members has an account on the website so we do have a way to get it on the tab.
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I'm willing to chip into this, as well as any other advertising project that we can come up with.
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If this happens, someone with responsibility needs to control the payments. With the option to see how much is donated and when payments are done. Full transparency would be needed in my opinion, since the money comes from everyone and you want to see what happens with it. Also regular payments need to be done to be able to do it every month. Would everyone be able to keep that up? Or is it only going to work 1 or 2 months? 35 Euro's is pretty expensive.
Also, are we able to see how much people we gain by using a hosted tab? Would be interesting to see what kind of effect it has by being on the hosted tab.
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It's 20 dollar a month if you have a reseller account, which I do have.
Could setup a donation for this cause if approved by HQ.
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We should give it a shot.
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It's 20 dollar a month if you have a reseller account, which I do have.
Could setup a donation for this cause if approved by HQ.
I'm sure they'll be happy to help you out ;)
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Also, are we able to see how much people we gain by using a hosted tab? Would be interesting to see what kind of effect it has by being on the hosted tab.
Maybe Sauron can pull up such statistics(?)
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It's 20 dollar a month if you have a reseller account, which I do have.
Could setup a donation for this cause if approved by HQ.
That's 17 euros which we can collect easly, any discount if we purchase for 6 months/1 year period ahead?
Manoni, Trane, Carbon, we need your input on this guys.
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It's 20 dollar a month if you have a reseller account, which I do have.
Could setup a donation for this cause if approved by HQ.
That's 17 euros which we can collect easly, any discount if we purchase for 6 months/1 year period ahead?
Manoni, Trane, Carbon, we need your input on this guys.
No discounts, only monthly basis.
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Sounds like a good plan. Can't increase a playerbase without new players...
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If the grip of SAMP is important and this community isn't interested in letting it go and does decide to advance and keep advancing in SAMP as well then the only possible way is hosted tab hopefully it will work SAMP is old.
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If the grip of SAMP is important and this community isn't interested in letting it go and does decide to advance and keep advancing in SAMP as well then the only possible way is hosted tab hopefully it will work SAMP is old.
:uhm:
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On the other side, HQ has to be prepared as well, new moderators, new admins, new criminal roleplay based scripts, even scripting a more sophisticated anti-hack script, since we're gonna have shitloads of those coming in.
There has to be a plan before we jump into it, otherwise it will just be a loose project in the air, and the main role in it of course has the HQ, they need a lot of will, time, and dedication to stick to the plan, because hosted list should just be the engine of things starting to warm up, its gonna create a more positive atmosphere that must be followed by new scripts, awesome future projects that are being worked on(Anyone remembers "Payday" project?), that will give the desire for both new, old, and veteran players to rejoin back as well, because even the worst haters of Argonath through history, has always returned back when the server goes back up high with activity.
The server has to use that Host Tab wave like a surfer and ride it all the way smoothly, moving activity further and further up with amazing new things(Payday-Bank Robbery, Car theft, Financial Market(Stocks), more new type of drugs and the effects they commit, etc, etc) coming up in rows of weeks, not just plugin the traffic and that's it.
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I respect what you are trying to do here, but..
You do realize that even if all of us left agree, such additions require active hands we currently lack, hence it ain't happening soon, right?
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I think we need to get some more features and bug fixes going before we consider hosting tab. Don't want a negative first impression on newcomers.
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I respect what you are trying to do here, but..
You do realize that even if all of us left agree, such additions require active hands we currently lack, hence it ain't happening soon, right?
I do bro.
It also lacked after the release of RS5, and the server eventually ended up back up, better then ever.
Its just about peoples honest will, if you can't help with your activity, then step aside, let others work on it, while you can help in other ways. Not keeping your positions like you were born with it, and yet giving excuses how you're busy to actually do something. With power, responsibility comes, and the 2nd is more important then the 1st in any project/organisation/life for that matter, otherwise, you've just finished your part, when you attached "Manager" "Supreme Judge" or other lucrative tittles to your bloody forum profile.
I'm not targeting anyone, I'm just speaking generally.
If you dont have enough hands to do it, then first ask Community to help out, go contact people who could actually help your goal, be proactive on the matter, or is the plan for Argonath just to slowly completely die over time, with five players activity, until the old Russian stops the payment?
If that's the plan, then why being a Manager/HQ member/Supreme Judge in the first place? There is no point, its useless, the server is already doomed, so why would a person want to keep his positions if its useless? What is your purpose then and point of existing on a lucrative position?
None.
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I am willing to donate for this, if it passes and someone starts saving money for this, catch me on discord...
Sadly 5th week without internet at home due ISP fault connection, hopefully I'll be back soon...
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I respect what you are trying to do here, but..
You do realize that even if all of us left agree, such additions require active hands we currently lack, hence it ain't happening soon, right?
Its just about peoples honest will, if you can't help with your activity, then step aside, let others work on it, while you can help in other ways. Not keeping your positions like you were born with it, and yet giving excuses how you're busy to actually do something. With power, responsibility comes, and the 2nd is more important then the 1st in any project/organisation/life for that matter, otherwise, you've just finished your part, when you attached "Manager" "Supreme Judge" or other lucrative tittles to your bloody forum profile.
You have raised some nice points here, and I can honestly say I couldn't agree more.
Trust me when I say there are definitely people that are capable of taking over. *coughs Shan_Castello*
Jokes aside, I still believe that great potential leaders are still alive and running.
They are simply nowhere to be found in such state since they are not given the necessary attention and trust.
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I believe we stopped being on hosted tab because of the hackers and no admins IG, if I remember correctly. Then Dylan made some anti-hacking script and well I don't know what happened after that with the situation. I don't think coming up with 17 Euros a month as a community is hard.
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Argonath being on hosted list is a good idea, I swear people join once they see the players, you got 2 players, nope. Not gonna work, you got atleast 30 players, people will hop in. It’s easy, I hope the server comes back to it’s best state.
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Sounds like a good plan. Can't increase a playerbase without new players...
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I think we need this as soon as possible before we end up extinct. Chase does have a point about good first impressions but I feel like the server could show a good first impression if we have players help new people who come on and get new groups going, etc.
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It's been done before with the current HQ and HQs before and it proved that it did nothing (except from when we had an active playerbase), new players wont join in a RP server with lower than 30 average playerbase because this is SA:MP (a dying client) and RP servers need a large amount of players to get new ones which explains why every new SA:MP project does not and will never succeed let alone an old project that's suffering from never-to-be-solved problems.
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Just scrap samp and go for vmp instead
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It's been done before with the current HQ and HQs before and it proved that it did nothing (except from when we had an active playerbase), new players wont join in a RP server with lower than 30 average playerbase because this is SA:MP (a dying client) and RP servers need a large amount of players to get new ones which explains why every new SA:MP project does not and will never succeed let alone an old project that's suffering from never-to-be-solved problems.
You're talking out of your ass right now, you weren't involved in those past times of previous HQ's, and you weren't even there.
When MadBoi was alone on the begging of RS5, it was new players that made an average of 30 players, because of the hosted list, and because of that veterans started joining back. Then with Teddy's development of scripts and "innovating atmosphere", it went up to 60-70.
@Bolded Another proof how much you're just saying words based on nothing yet theory in your head.
I guess that the playerbased at Muddo is fake, they're all bots. You should know this, its your friends out there.
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It's been done before with the current HQ and HQs before and it proved that it did nothing (except from when we had an active playerbase), new players wont join in a RP server with lower than 30 average playerbase because this is SA:MP (a dying client) and RP servers need a large amount of players to get new ones which explains why every new SA:MP project does not and will never succeed let alone an old project that's suffering from never-to-be-solved problems.
You're talking out of your ass right now, you weren't involved in those past times of previous HQ's, and you weren't even there.
When MadBoi was alone on the begging of RS5, it was new players that made an average of 30 players, because of the hosted list, and because of that veterans started joining back. Then with Teddy's development of scripts and "innovating atmosphere", it went up to 60-70.
@Bolded Another proof how much you're just saying words based on nothing yet theory in your head.
I guess that the playerbased at Muddo is fake, they're all bots. You should know this, its your friends out there.
And there you ruin another topic like always, not even surprised even though it's your own. :lol:
Speaking of talking out of the ass; I was there back when RS5 first released and playerbase was 0 and it wasn't hosted tab that made it raise it was the devs who fixed the scripts back then and pushed new updates. I was there with @JDC creating events with the help of Zaila and Devin under a group callede ProjectARISE and was in the staff team aswell during the year of 2014 and the playerbase was around 60 not 30 as you said (after March of course) @AK47 was there too in the staff team and when the server started to gain life again as Svensson reached their peak of activity during that time then Teddy came by the end of 2014 to the end of 2015 and it raised to 100 not 60 because of the quickly pushed updates and where were you? Inactive as always and fighting people on forums. Another thing, I don't play SA:MP and I don't play Mudoo. I don't even have SA:MP on my PC that game is too old now for it to deserve some space in my hard drive. :lol:
Where's your common sense first you say bots play there then you say my friends play there, I don't see whats wrong with my friends playing there although I know your members are playing there but back to the bot thing just trying to point out your common sense, how can you claim bots are playing there then say they are my friends, are you indicating my friends are bots? :lol: am I talking to bots on discord and played on argo with bots before? :lol: Now go on, call Andeey to remove my comment and request to place a punishment on me because it hurt your feelings, I mean that's what you do all the time with your goblins isn't it? :lol:
Same advice goes back to you, don't talk out of your ass and don't ruin your own topic we all have opinions that we can share as long as they stay civilised and not attacking others. ;)
Just scrap samp and go for vmp instead
Why not do this? Other servers are coping with the constant updates, why can't we do the same aswell if that's the problem with starting V:MP server. If 32 slots are too low then just make 2 servers for the time being, delaying it more like this and another game will come out and outdo V:MP that if other servers don't get too known and steal all the new players from any new server.
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It's been done before with the current HQ and HQs before and it proved that it did nothing (except from when we had an active playerbase), new players wont join in a RP server with lower than 30 average playerbase because this is SA:MP (a dying client) and RP servers need a large amount of players to get new ones which explains why every new SA:MP project does not and will never succeed let alone an old project that's suffering from never-to-be-solved problems.
You're talking out of your ass right now, you weren't involved in those past times of previous HQ's, and you weren't even there.
When MadBoi was alone on the begging of RS5, it was new players that made an average of 30 players, because of the hosted list, and because of that veterans started joining back. Then with Teddy's development of scripts and "innovating atmosphere", it went up to 60-70.
@Bolded Another proof how much you're just saying words based on nothing yet theory in your head.
I guess that the playerbased at Muddo is fake, they're all bots. You should know this, its your friends out there.
And there you ruin another topic like always, not even surprised even though it's your own. :lol:
Speaking of talking out of the ass; I was there back when RS5 first released and playerbase was 0 and it wasn't hosted tab that made it raise it was the devs who fixed the scripts back then and pushed new updates
While you were busy participating in other peoples events by your own words, we were having this same shit attitude from some people like you're having right now, that Hosted tab wont help, that its dead, and that its a 10+ year old game. Common sense prevailed and proved them wrong, same way you are.
I didn't read most of the hysteric PMC smiley spam sentences after, since where ever I look'd brief, you're taking out of your ass again, so I cba with it rly.
To think you were a manager here, a consequence of reasons why Argonath went down in the first place, maybe that's what's hurting you here, you failed completely, and now you're igar to tell others is something gonna work or not.
The fact you can't apprehend and understand when someones pointing you wrong, by quoting you and saying "If SAMP is dead, and every new project will never succeed, then who are those people playing at that server, bots?" yet you understood it as my claim and not yours, means that stupidity will always prevail in your case, and I'm sorry, but that's your problem.
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It's been done before with the current HQ and HQs before and it proved that it did nothing (except from when we had an active playerbase), new players wont join in a RP server with lower than 30 average playerbase because this is SA:MP (a dying client) and RP servers need a large amount of players to get new ones which explains why every new SA:MP project does not and will never succeed let alone an old project that's suffering from never-to-be-solved problems.
He isn't wrong. Hosted tab isn't going to do what you hope it will, people will pass on a empty/near empty server.
Just scrap samp and go for vmp instead
Shame they announced it, built hype then what? Nothing. FiveM server should be the focus now, no doubt about it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYAaLqb5Uto
This video is basically showing all the players that played at the time being(it was like max 10 people online); 2014 looked quite a like what it does today. When the RS5 update hit and a lot of people was unhappy then we fought back trying to be active.
As the server progressed, more and more people came to play.
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It's been done before with the current HQ and HQs before and it proved that it did nothing (except from when we had an active playerbase), new players wont join in a RP server with lower than 30 average playerbase because this is SA:MP (a dying client) and RP servers need a large amount of players to get new ones which explains why every new SA:MP project does not and will never succeed let alone an old project that's suffering from never-to-be-solved problems.
You're talking out of your ass right now, you weren't involved in those past times of previous HQ's, and you weren't even there.
When MadBoi was alone on the begging of RS5, it was new players that made an average of 30 players, because of the hosted list, and because of that veterans started joining back. Then with Teddy's development of scripts and "innovating atmosphere", it went up to 60-70.
@Bolded Another proof how much you're just saying words based on nothing yet theory in your head.
I guess that the playerbased at Muddo is fake, they're all bots. You should know this, its your friends out there.
And there you ruin another topic like always, not even surprised even though it's your own. :lol:
Speaking of talking out of the ass; I was there back when RS5 first released and playerbase was 0 and it wasn't hosted tab that made it raise it was the devs who fixed the scripts back then and pushed new updates
While you were busy participating in other peoples events by your own words, we were having this same shit attitude from some people like you're having right now, that Hosted tab wont help, that its dead, and that its a 10+ year old game. Common sense prevailed and proved them wrong, same way you are.
I didn't read most of the hysteric PMC smiley spam sentences after, since where ever I look'd brief, you're taking out of your ass again, so I cba with it rly.
To think you were a manager here, a consequence of reasons why Argonath went down in the first place, maybe that's what's hurting you here, you failed completely, and now you're igar to tell others is something gonna work or not.
The fact you can't apprehend and understand when someones pointing you wrong, by quoting you and saying "If SAMP is dead, and every new project will never succeed, then who are those people playing at that server, bots?" yet you understood it as my claim and not yours, means that stupidity will always prevail in your case, and I'm sorry, but that's your problem.
"Oh no he wrote everything that I was going to do and proved me wrong, let me pretend that i never read it and reply to the text before and after it"
Participating in others' events? Can't you read simple English or you need the text to be bigger so you can read? I CREATED events alongside a team called ProjectARISE led by JDC which eventually helped the server a bunch with activity since they weren't events like "escape the shamal" "hurr durr DD"
Talking about my manager run yet you weren't here and forgot that I wasn't the only person in HQ or did you simply forget about everything just like your short staff run when it ended because you teleported to Charlie Corleone (the old Charlie) to kill him because you lost a war?
Now about my opinion on the subject of the hosted tab, someone who's blind would look at what I said exactly like you did someone else would look at it differently, Chase himself mentioned before me on his post that the server itself needs to get its updates so the new players dont get a bad a first impression on the server.
Even Al mentioned afterwards himself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYAaLqb5Uto
This video is basically showing all the players that played at the time being(it was like max 10 people online); 2014 looked quite a like what it does today. When the RS5 update hit and a lot of people was unhappy then we fought back trying to be active.
As the server progressed, more and more people came to play.
The server needs to progress first to get new players the more it progresses the more people will come hell lets give it even a real life example. If Central Africa (which is in civil war now) advertise that they are giving passports and nationality for free would people go for it? Think before you type something out of your ass
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Chill the fuck down Khm, as you said, you don't even have SAMP no more, you ain't making much sense here either..
La la it wont help, la la im not only one who failed staff run.. dude, did you even read the topic? Developer alredy stated that this could be done after the update hits for better results, honestly from side view it just looks like you're salty af.. no wonder why :)
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First of all, I don't get what the individuals who are saying "forget SA:MP" are doing here. There's another board if you want to suggest anything in regards to expanding the community. It's funny these comments are given once said individuals are banned or already moved to a new server; if you're not interested, let the ones who are try to make the situation better. Or, since you guys are such geniuses and think making a V:MP server will be so successful, be my guest, why do you have to put your noses into SA:MP affairs?
Now go on, call Andeey to remove my comment and request to place a punishment on me because it hurt your feelings, I mean that's what you do all the time with your goblins isn't it? :lol:
You obviously are here to bitch more about your ban and other problems, and it's not because "SA:MP is old" as you said, so therefore just stay out of this topic.
Talking about the beginning of RS5 and comparing it to the current situation is not even correct. RS5 was a beta version they had to release because when they lost data on RS4 and the only backup they had was months old, they were like "here you guys, new RS5". When in reality it was more of a downgrade from RS4 and even more limited to RS4. Eventually the scripts got better, people returned but also new people joined and that had a lot to do with hosted tab. It explains why most of the active players (or until recent active ones) are not even here when RS4 was in place, or just during the end of it.
So, to whoever can make it happen, please tell us how we can donate the cash to fund the hosted tab so we can finally get it over with. We also don't need others who aren't even playing anymore to influence us otherwise.
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Why do you care so much if you're not even playing SA:MP anymore? Just have a look at your friends instead, they play on a different community yet they don't show up here talking shit like you. I like the way you speak about your so loved staff rank you achieved in Argonath, lol, it is one of your biggest achievments in real life? Since you're raging like that, its pretty obvious you barely go outside.
And just for your info, I saw something like "Where was Cofi?". Well, before you all started playing in RS5, Cofiliano was offering me and @Stivi the chance of leading Gvardia and he was helping us with both online and offline presence. Thus, Gvardia has earned being the most poweful group after RS5 as well. Haters will moan but they all know the truth. ;)
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@Grimbeorn @Manoni @MrTrane
Sforza VS Gvardia going on, :war: :war:
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@Grimbeorn @Manoni @MrTrane
Sforza VS Gvardia going on, :war: :war:
Of course, you don't see the bigger picture, probably won't, so let me help you.
This is not Sforza vs Gvardia... This is Let it burn to ashes vs Save the server
If you got nothing to add within or at least near the topic, then don't, thanks :)
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If some people can still keep Skype relevant, pretty sure the same people can keep SA:MP relevant too.
@Grimbeorn @Manoni @MrTrane
Sforza VS Gvardia going on, :war: :war:
wut :lol:
To be honest, SA:MP is cool, fun and pretty much the only option if you have a weak PC. Heck, its currently the only game I have on my laptops.
But high end gaming hardware is getting more and more economical, and as someone who knows ins and outs of the gaming industry, next generation of gaming hardware is going to be even cheaper, offering various options in the entry level.
but as Khm pointed out, the base needs to be fixed before implementing anything. No matter how much Argonath SA:MP is advertised, put in hosted tab, or given VIP treatment by the SAMP team itself, who is going to play on an empty to low player-base server?
If you just wish to waste your funds, hey, your money, do whatever you want.
Chill the fuck down Khm, as you said, you don't even have SAMP no more, you ain't making much sense here either..
La la it wont help, la la im not only one who failed staff run.. dude, did you even read the topic? Developer alredy stated that this could be done after the update hits for better results, honestly from side view it just looks like you're salty af.. no wonder why :)
Thanks for the salt, I really missed it on this low sodium diet I have been following.
@Grimbeorn @Manoni @MrTrane
Sforza VS Gvardia going on, :war: :war:
Of course, you don't see the bigger picture, probably won't, so let me help you.
This is not Sforza vs Gvardia... This is Save the server vs Let it burn to ashes
If you got nothing to add within or at least near the topic, then don't, thanks :)
I love the order you put that in. If you are so hell-bent on saving the server, where were you earlier this year? When these things were still relevant and it would had been way easier than it will be now?
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All of you are missing the single greatest point of this entire mess.
You're still divided and fighting each others, instead of working together to bring up the server you love and want to play on.
Put aside your differences and quit acting like children on the forums and maybe things can actually get done, instead of good proper posts being missed in the mountains of shitposts that add nothing to the discussion except more frustration.
There is no server without players willing to play on it, and there won't be a will to play on the server if it's a warzone between it's veterans/regulars.
No matter how much the HQ or devs might try to create interesting gameplay, if the atmosphere is shit then so is the server.
That's my 2 cents.
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The only ones who are bitter are the ones that don't even play anymore lol.
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Thanks for the salt, I really missed it on this low sodium diet I have been following.
How am I salty? It's just pathetic how someone who doesn't have the game anymore comes and just trashes ideas on how we could try to revive the server.
I love the order you put that in. If you are so hell-bent on saving the server, where were you earlier this year? When these things were still relevant and it would had been way easier than it will be now?
And I love how one out of the two points you have is that I should've changed the order, don't worry, I will.
On the other point - at beginning of this year I was actively playing the server, I'm no magician to predict that some shit like this would go down, so now when it has, I'm here helping as I can, still on empty server helping newer players getting around on Argonath and also ready to donate so we can be noticed..
And where are you?
Aside from the salt pouring, I think it would be good if the HQ could choose someone out of staff team who they and we can trust on collecting the donations, I think Al was mentioning he could? We could already get everything done and as soon as the updates hit the server we can active the listing and do our best to make the server alive.
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*grabs popcorns*
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You're still divided and fighting each others, instead of working together to bring up the server you love and want to play on.
Not to be an asslicker as I don't even play VC:MP anyway. (perhaps agreeing with you just so you close your eyes on future bullshitting of mine :rofl:)
In all seriousness, since most of you SA:MP buddies hate on Kessu for muting your ass on forums for obvious bullshitting content, why don't you just focus on what he has to say for once and improve the server you supposedly love?
This drama is senseless and endless.
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I love the order you put that in. If you are so hell-bent on saving the server, where were you earlier this year? When these things were still relevant and it would had been way easier than it will be now?
This is not a problem from earlier this year. I stopped playing RS4 to play RS5 Beta. I was playing SAMP when my friends moved to MTASA. I was making deals about selling drugs on forum PM because that's how scared people were to log In-Game when RS5 was released. And yet, through many HQs, many developer teams, many single developers, the playerbase has been active on the forum, but hesitant to log in game because of the poor numbers. And no "get IG be the example" is going to fix that. New players can, because they don't know the peak hours, they don't want a server with numbers of an LS based server, or they just want to try something new. If you think that placing the server on hosted tab is going to save the server then I don't know what to say to you. And how stupid do you have to be to get baited by Bennzy Trapani lol
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Hey about we all grow up and act our age, This is a topic which is trying to give an idea to increase our playerbase.. Not a topic about who has a bigger E-weiner.
Take your bitter comments to your private messages.
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Pathetic. Instead of crying and blaming eachother for something, go to the server and play there, thats why we are here, not to cry like a 5 year old kid who lost his pink balloon.
Hosted tab doesnt solve anything. Server has been in hosted tab list in past 3 years about 25 months and the only thing is, it never bring the new players (for the roleplaying server). If we watch the statistics we can find 1(barely) player who starts playing on the server after 400 banned hackers and new registred users. I can set us back there but its a waste of money, ive seen that.
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Pathetic. Instead of crying and blaming eachother for something, go to the server and play there, thats why we are here, not to cry like a 5 year old kid who lost his pink balloon.
Hosted tab doesnt solve anything. Server has been in hosted tab list in past 3 years about 25 months and the only thing is, it never bring the new players (for the roleplaying server). If we watch the statistics we can find 1(barely) player who starts playing on the server after 400 banned hackers and new registred users. I can set us back there but its a waste of money, ive seen that.
I think the best form of action is what was mentioned by chase, To wait until the server updates are put in place and the new players have something to occupy and help guide them into the server, rather than the off chance a player who is skilled enough to teach somebody is online.
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Every rational person would understand it's useless to get more people into a chaotic place, scripters will take time but lets face it you don't need scripts to RP RS4 was barely having proper scripts and I can enjoy /me only existing even RS5 currently has much more RP supporting scripts then we ever had it's all about players/veterans/staff/HQ and if we don't close our eyes and face it each of these has a problem inside of it.
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:rolleyes:@Grimbeorn tbh if it were up to me, I'd spend money on hiring some of the old scripters to help out for a few months until everything is in place. The place needs it.
Also, miss you all. <3 :gand:
Edit: Thoughts on the hosted tab also. I don't think money is an issue anymore. All of us are grown ass men that can probably chip in $20 a month to make it work. I think we just need to see some initiative?
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:rolleyes:@Grimbeorn tbh if it were up to me, I'd spend money on hiring some of the old scripters to help out for a few months until everything is in place. The place needs it.
Also, miss you all. <3 :gand:
Edit: Thoughts on the hosted tab also. I don't think money is an issue anymore. All of us are grown ass men that can probably chip in $20 a month to make it work. I think we just need to see some initiative?
Wow you show up without even messaging me... And also im a grown man with no money :(
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:rolleyes:@Grimbeorn tbh if it were up to me, I'd spend money on hiring some of the old scripters to help out for a few months until everything is in place. The place needs it.
Also, miss you all. <3 :gand:
Edit: Thoughts on the hosted tab also. I don't think money is an issue anymore. All of us are grown ass men that can probably chip in $20 a month to make it work. I think we just need to see some initiative?
Wow you show up without even messaging me... And also im a grown man with no money :(
Sorry babe. I'll try to hop in game whenever I can to see u. Can u talk Carbon into /setlevel Astaroth 5?
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Pathetic. Instead of crying and blaming eachother for something, go to the server and play there, thats why we are here, not to cry like a 5 year old kid who lost his pink balloon.
Hosted tab doesnt solve anything. Server has been in hosted tab list in past 3 years about 25 months and the only thing is, it never bring the new players (for the roleplaying server). If we watch the statistics we can find 1(barely) player who starts playing on the server after 400 banned hackers and new registred users. I can set us back there but its a waste of money, ive seen that.
Its not a waste of money if there's some initiative to follow the host tab with a good plan and organisation, with full activities on all fronts. Script wise, event wise, roleplay simuation wise, and so on. The server would boom if this would be done properly in a matter of week.
People dont want to spend there time somewhere, where you can't see much of a progress on important things that matters, such as criminal roleplay scripts , and that you still after 5 years or something, can not save your weapons in your house. Now this isn't a critic toward the current HQ, since every other didn't fix it as well, but small things like that is something that gives you a clue, is someone actually doing something about it, or just not even bothering to see the importance of such. You give the players that, and not only that we will have lots of new players around, yet the old ones gonna return as well.
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1(barely) player
If I was you, I wouldn't understimate that 1 player, tho'.
Hosted tab won't slove the problem but it's a step into fixing it.
What about donating for a full-time scripter for a month or two, to put few things in order and help the current team to finish their current projects? I think it's possible to find one online, isn't it?
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1(barely) player
If I was you, I wouldn't understimate that 1 player, tho'.
Hosted tab won't slove the problem but it's a step into fixing it.
What about donating for a full-time scripter for a month or two, to put few things in order and help the current team to finish their current projects? I think it's possible to find one online, isn't it?
We could just put some faith and respect into the current Development team and await their planned update.
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:rolleyes:@Grimbeorn tbh if it were up to me, I'd spend money on hiring some of the old scripters to help out for a few months until everything is in place. The place needs it.
spending money on that would be way better than for the hosted tab appearance, definitely needed
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:rolleyes:@Grimbeorn tbh if it were up to me, I'd spend money on hiring some of the old scripters to help out for a few months until everything is in place. The place needs it.
spending money on that would be way better than for the hosted tab appearance, definitely needed
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:rolleyes:@Grimbeorn tbh if it were up to me, I'd spend money on hiring some of the old scripters to help out for a few months until everything is in place. The place needs it.
spending money on that would be way better than for the hosted tab appearance, definitely needed
Both are needed but in my point of view what astaroth said got the priority
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What about donating for a full-time scripter for a month or two, to put few things in order and help the current team to finish their current projects? I think it's possible to find one online, isn't it?
I never thought I would ever agree with something Dennis says, but he's right. And seriously, cut the 'lets be patient with current developers' drama, playerbase is around 0-10 players so what the fuck you're talking about? We've been waiting for some BASIC scripts since YEARS but all we heard was just silly excuses regarding 'IRL issues'. We're sick of 'we will do this' 'we will do that' propaganda, facts matter much more than words. If you just sit on your ass and choose to cry how busy IRL you are then just go away, retire for a few weeks/months then come back whenever you can do your work properly.
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What about donating for a full-time scripter for a month or two, to put few things in order and help the current team to finish their current projects? I think it's possible to find one online, isn't it?
I never thought I would ever agree with something Dennis says, but he's right. And seriously, cut the 'lets be patient with current developers' drama, playerbase is around 0-10 players so what the fuck you're talking about? We've been waiting for some BASIC scripts since YEARS but all we heard was just silly excuses regarding 'IRL issues'. We're sick of 'we will do this' 'we will do that' propaganda, facts matter much more than words. If you just sit on your ass and choose to cry how busy IRL you are then just go away, retire for a few weeks/months then come back whenever you can do your work properly.
I'll be honest here - The only reason we took this on and are staying is because there's absolutely zero other people able and willing to do free scripting work. The recent spike in toxicity in the community has essentially warded off anybody other than us to even consider it.
I want features such as item storage just as much as you guys, but the way RS5 is structured makes that very difficult to implement. RS5 isn't a gamemode, it's a collection of filterscripts that have to communicate with each other, and making them communicate with each other effectively takes thousands of lines of code. Most of the bugs you guys encounter are actually a result of miscommunication between these separated scripts.
If we had the time and manpower to do it, I would honestly see to it that RS5 be rewritten into an RS6 with everything modulated but all in one gamemode for simplicity sakes.
Not only would we need more help to do something like this, such a drastic change would probably require an entire server stats wipe, which IMO is probably needed but it would make people with their thousands of kilos of drugs and money to leave...
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How much would a dev team cost?
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How's everyone doing?
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I'm willing to sponsor a couple hundred dollars for a dev to get things done.
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Make RS6. Form a testers team to have it as much bug free as possible. Reset player stats. Wait for the exams to finish. Enjoy the activity.
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Make RS6. Form a testers team to have it as much bug free as possible. Reset player stats. Wait for the exams to finish. Enjoy the activity.
Exams in Oct :lol:.
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Make RS6. Form a testers team to have it as much bug free as possible. Reset player stats. Wait for the exams to finish. Enjoy the activity.
Exams in Oct :lol:.
in argonath exams are at all times of the year.
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If we had the time and manpower to do it, I would honestly see to it that RS5 be rewritten into an RS6 with everything modulated but all in one gamemode for simplicity sakes.
Not only would we need more help to do something like this, such a drastic change would probably require an entire server stats wipe, which IMO is probably needed but it would make people with their thousands of kilos of drugs and money to leave...
As far as I remember RS5 was supposed to make it much easier for new features to the script to be added and that implementing RS5 a complete server stats swipe would never be needed again. That's what Gandalf said, I don't know anything about scripting.
A server stat swipe would be a bad idea even if it were possible now, because we don't have a big playerbase to rebound on afterwards. Even though we had such a huge playerbase on RS4 we all know how dead was RS5 on its release.