Argonath on Hosted list?

[Khm]

It's been done before with the current HQ and HQs before and it proved that it did nothing (except from when we had an active playerbase), new players wont join in a RP server with lower than 30 average playerbase because this is SA:MP (a dying client) and RP servers need a large amount of players to get new ones which explains why every new SA:MP project does not and will never succeed let alone an old project that's suffering from never-to-be-solved problems.

You're talking out of your ass right now, you weren't involved in those past times of previous HQ's, and you weren't even there.

When MadBoi was alone on the begging of RS5, it was new players that made an average of 30 players, because of the hosted list, and because of that veterans started joining back. Then with Teddy's development of scripts and "innovating atmosphere", it went up to 60-70.

@Bolded Another proof how much you're just saying words based on nothing yet theory in your head.

I guess that the playerbased at Muddo is fake, they're all bots. You should know this, its your friends out there.

And there you ruin another topic like always, not even surprised even though it's your own.
Speaking of talking out of the ass; I was there back when RS5 first released and playerbase was 0 and it wasn't hosted tab that made it raise it was the devs who fixed the scripts back then and pushed new updates. I was there with @JDC creating events with the help of Zaila and Devin under a group callede ProjectARISE and was in the staff team aswell during the year of 2014 and the playerbase was around 60 not 30 as you said (after March of course) @AK47 was there too in the staff team and when the server started to gain life again as Svensson reached their peak of activity during that time then Teddy came by the end of 2014  to the end of 2015 and it raised to 100 not 60 because of the quickly pushed updates and where were you? Inactive as always and fighting people on forums. Another thing, I don't play SA:MP and I don't play Mudoo. I don't even have SA:MP on my PC that game is too old now for it to deserve some space in my hard drive.
Where's your common sense first you say bots play there then you say my friends play there, I don't see whats wrong with my friends playing there although I know your members are playing there but back to the bot thing just trying to point out your common sense, how can you claim bots are playing there then say they are my friends, are you indicating my friends are bots?  am I talking to bots on discord and played on argo with bots before?  Now go on, call Andeey to remove my comment and request to place a punishment on me because it hurt your feelings, I mean that's what you do all the time with your goblins isn't it?
Same advice goes back to you, don't talk out of your ass and don't ruin your own topic we all have opinions that we can share as long as they stay civilised and not attacking others.

Just scrap samp and go for vmp instead

Why not do this? Other servers are coping with the constant updates, why can't we do the same aswell if that's the problem with starting V:MP server. If 32 slots are too low then just make 2 servers for the time being, delaying it more like this and another game will come out and outdo V:MP that if other servers don't get too known and steal all the new players from any new server.

[Cofiliano]

It's been done before with the current HQ and HQs before and it proved that it did nothing (except from when we had an active playerbase), new players wont join in a RP server with lower than 30 average playerbase because this is SA:MP (a dying client) and RP servers need a large amount of players to get new ones which explains why every new SA:MP project does not and will never succeed let alone an old project that's suffering from never-to-be-solved problems.

You're talking out of your ass right now, you weren't involved in those past times of previous HQ's, and you weren't even there.

When MadBoi was alone on the begging of RS5, it was new players that made an average of 30 players, because of the hosted list, and because of that veterans started joining back. Then with Teddy's development of scripts and "innovating atmosphere", it went up to 60-70.

@Bolded Another proof how much you're just saying words based on nothing yet theory in your head.

I guess that the playerbased at Muddo is fake, they're all bots. You should know this, its your friends out there.

And there you ruin another topic like always, not even surprised even though it's your own.
Speaking of talking out of the ass; I was there back when RS5 first released and playerbase was 0 and it wasn't hosted tab that made it raise it was the devs who fixed the scripts back then and pushed new updates

While you were busy participating in other peoples events by your own words, we were having this same shit attitude from some people like you're having right now, that Hosted tab wont help, that its dead, and that its a 10+ year old game. Common sense prevailed and proved them wrong, same way you are.

I didn't read most of the hysteric PMC smiley spam sentences after, since where ever I look'd brief, you're taking out of your ass again, so I cba with it rly.

To think you were a manager here, a consequence of reasons why Argonath went down in the first place, maybe that's what's hurting you here, you failed completely, and now you're igar to tell others is something gonna work or not. 

The fact you can't apprehend and understand when someones pointing you wrong, by quoting you and saying "If SAMP is dead, and every new project will never succeed, then who are those people playing at that server, bots?" yet you understood it as my claim and not yours, means that stupidity will always prevail in your case, and I'm sorry, but that's your problem.

[POGCHOMP]

It's been done before with the current HQ and HQs before and it proved that it did nothing (except from when we had an active playerbase), new players wont join in a RP server with lower than 30 average playerbase because this is SA:MP (a dying client) and RP servers need a large amount of players to get new ones which explains why every new SA:MP project does not and will never succeed let alone an old project that's suffering from never-to-be-solved problems.

He isn't wrong.  Hosted tab isn't going to do what you hope it will, people will pass on a empty/near empty server.

Just scrap samp and go for vmp instead

Shame they announced it, built hype then what? Nothing.  FiveM server should be the focus now, no doubt about it.

[Mr. Goobii]

This video is basically showing all the players that played at the time being(it was like max 10 people online); 2014 looked quite a like what it does today. When the RS5 update hit and a lot of people was unhappy then we fought back trying to be active.

As the server progressed, more and more people came to play.

[Khm]

It's been done before with the current HQ and HQs before and it proved that it did nothing (except from when we had an active playerbase), new players wont join in a RP server with lower than 30 average playerbase because this is SA:MP (a dying client) and RP servers need a large amount of players to get new ones which explains why every new SA:MP project does not and will never succeed let alone an old project that's suffering from never-to-be-solved problems.

You're talking out of your ass right now, you weren't involved in those past times of previous HQ's, and you weren't even there.

When MadBoi was alone on the begging of RS5, it was new players that made an average of 30 players, because of the hosted list, and because of that veterans started joining back. Then with Teddy's development of scripts and "innovating atmosphere", it went up to 60-70.

@Bolded Another proof how much you're just saying words based on nothing yet theory in your head.

I guess that the playerbased at Muddo is fake, they're all bots. You should know this, its your friends out there.

And there you ruin another topic like always, not even surprised even though it's your own.
Speaking of talking out of the ass; I was there back when RS5 first released and playerbase was 0 and it wasn't hosted tab that made it raise it was the devs who fixed the scripts back then and pushed new updates

While you were busy participating in other peoples events by your own words, we were having this same shit attitude from some people like you're having right now, that Hosted tab wont help, that its dead, and that its a 10+ year old game. Common sense prevailed and proved them wrong, same way you are.

I didn't read most of the hysteric PMC smiley spam sentences after, since where ever I look'd brief, you're taking out of your ass again, so I cba with it rly.

To think you were a manager here, a consequence of reasons why Argonath went down in the first place, maybe that's what's hurting you here, you failed completely, and now you're igar to tell others is something gonna work or not. 

The fact you can't apprehend and understand when someones pointing you wrong, by quoting you and saying "If SAMP is dead, and every new project will never succeed, then who are those people playing at that server, bots?" yet you understood it as my claim and not yours, means that stupidity will always prevail in your case, and I'm sorry, but that's your problem.

"Oh no he wrote everything  that I was going to do and proved me wrong, let me pretend that i never read it and reply to the text before and after it"

Participating in others' events? Can't you read simple English or you need the text to be bigger so you can read? I CREATED events alongside a team called ProjectARISE led by JDC which eventually helped the server a bunch with activity since they weren't events like "escape the shamal" "hurr durr DD"

Talking about my manager run yet you weren't here and forgot that I wasn't the only person in HQ or did you simply forget about everything just like your short staff run when it ended because you teleported to Charlie Corleone (the old Charlie) to kill him because you lost a war?

Now about my opinion on the subject of the hosted tab, someone who's blind would look at what I said exactly like you did someone else would look at it differently, Chase himself mentioned before me on his post that the server itself needs to get its updates so the new players dont get a bad a first impression on the server.
Even Al mentioned afterwards himself

This video is basically showing all the players that played at the time being(it was like max 10 people online); 2014 looked quite a like what it does today. When the RS5 update hit and a lot of people was unhappy then we fought back trying to be active.

As the server progressed, more and more people came to play.

The server needs to progress first to get new players the more it progresses the more people will come hell lets give it even a real life example. If Central Africa (which is in civil war now) advertise that they are giving passports and nationality  for free would people go for it? Think before you type something out of your ass

[Afyea]

Chill the fuck down Khm, as you said, you don't even have SAMP no more, you ain't making much sense here either..

La la it wont help, la la im not only one who failed staff run.. dude, did you even read the topic? Developer alredy stated that this could be done after the update hits for better results, honestly from side view it just looks like you're salty af.. no wonder why

[Antonio.]

First of all, I don't get what the individuals who are saying "forget SA:MP" are doing here. There's another board if you want to suggest anything in regards to expanding the community. It's funny these comments are given once said individuals are banned or already moved to a new server; if you're not interested, let the ones who are try to make the situation better. Or, since you guys are such geniuses and think making a V:MP server will be so successful, be my guest, why do you have to put your noses into SA:MP affairs?

Now go on, call Andeey to remove my comment and request to place a punishment on me because it hurt your feelings, I mean that's what you do all the time with your goblins isn't it?

You obviously are here to bitch more about your ban and other problems, and it's not because "SA:MP is old" as you said, so therefore just stay out of this topic.

Talking about the beginning of RS5 and comparing it to the current situation is not even correct. RS5 was a beta version they had to release because when they lost data on RS4 and the only backup they had was months old, they were like "here you guys, new RS5". When in reality it was more of a downgrade from RS4 and even more limited to RS4. Eventually the scripts got better, people returned but also new people joined and that had a lot to do with hosted tab. It explains why most of the active players (or until recent active ones) are not even here when RS4 was in place, or just during the end of it.

So, to whoever can make it happen, please tell us how we can donate the cash to fund the hosted tab so we can finally get it over with. We also don't need others who aren't even playing anymore to influence us otherwise.

[Jeremy.]

Why do you care so much if you're not even playing SA:MP anymore? Just have a look at your friends instead, they play on a different community yet they don't show up here talking shit like you. I like the way you speak about your so loved staff rank you achieved in Argonath, lol, it is one of your biggest achievments in real life? Since you're raging like that, its pretty obvious you barely go outside.

And just for your info, I saw something like "Where was Cofi?". Well, before you all started playing in RS5, Cofiliano was offering me and @Stivi the chance of leading Gvardia and he was helping us with both online and offline presence. Thus, Gvardia has earned being the most poweful group after RS5 as well. Haters will moan but they all know the truth. 

[Bennzy]

@Grimbeorn @Manoni @MrTrane

Sforza VS Gvardia going on, 

[Afyea]

@Grimbeorn @Manoni @MrTrane

Sforza VS Gvardia going on, 

Of course, you don't see the bigger picture, probably won't, so let me help you.

This is not Sforza vs Gvardia... This is Let it burn to ashes vs Save the server

If you got nothing to add within or at least near the topic, then don't, thanks

[Matt Murdock]

If some people can still keep Skype relevant, pretty sure the same people can keep SA:MP relevant too.

@Grimbeorn @Manoni @MrTrane

Sforza VS Gvardia going on, 

wut

To be honest, SA:MP is cool, fun and pretty much the only option if you have a weak PC. Heck, its currently the only game I have on my laptops.

But high end gaming hardware is getting more and more economical, and as someone who knows ins and outs of the gaming industry, next generation of gaming hardware is going to be even cheaper, offering various options in the entry level.

but as Khm pointed out, the base needs to be fixed before implementing anything. No matter how much Argonath SA:MP is advertised, put in hosted tab, or given VIP treatment by the SAMP team itself, who is going to play on an empty to low player-base server?

If you just wish to waste your funds, hey, your money, do whatever you want.

Chill the fuck down Khm, as you said, you don't even have SAMP no more, you ain't making much sense here either..

La la it wont help, la la im not only one who failed staff run.. dude, did you even read the topic? Developer alredy stated that this could be done after the update hits for better results, honestly from side view it just looks like you're salty af.. no wonder why

Thanks for the salt, I really missed it on this low sodium diet I have been following.

@Grimbeorn @Manoni @MrTrane

Sforza VS Gvardia going on, 

Of course, you don't see the bigger picture, probably won't, so let me help you.

This is not Sforza vs Gvardia... This is Save the server vs Let it burn to ashes

If you got nothing to add within or at least near the topic, then don't, thanks

I love the order you put that in. If you are so hell-bent on saving the server, where were you earlier this year? When these things were still relevant and it would had been way easier than it will be now?

[Kessu]

All of you are missing the single greatest point of this entire mess.

You're still divided and fighting each others, instead of working together to bring up the server you love and want to play on.

Put aside your differences and quit acting like children on the forums and maybe things can actually get done, instead of good proper posts being missed in the mountains of shitposts that add nothing to the discussion except more frustration.


There is no server without players willing to play on it, and there won't be a will to play on the server if it's a warzone between it's veterans/regulars.

No matter how much the HQ or devs might try to create interesting gameplay, if the atmosphere is shit then so is the server.

That's my 2 cents.

[Antonio.]

The only ones who are bitter are the ones that don't even play anymore lol.

[Afyea]

Thanks for the salt, I really missed it on this low sodium diet I have been following.

How am I salty? It's just pathetic how someone who doesn't have the game anymore comes and just trashes ideas on how we could try to revive the server.

I love the order you put that in. If you are so hell-bent on saving the server, where were you earlier this year? When these things were still relevant and it would had been way easier than it will be now?

And I love how one out of the two points you have is that I should've changed the order, don't worry, I will.
On the other point - at beginning of this year I was actively playing the server, I'm no magician to predict that some shit like this would go down, so now when it has, I'm here helping as I can, still on empty server helping newer players getting around on Argonath and also ready to donate so we can be noticed..

And where are you?



Aside from the salt pouring, I think it would be good if the HQ could choose someone out of staff team who they and we can trust on collecting the donations, I think Al was mentioning he could? We could already get everything done and as soon as the updates hit the server we can active the listing and do our best to make the server alive.

[CrUpt3d_$oUL]

*grabs popcorns*