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Title: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Andeey on December 04, 2018, 09:38:20 am
Greetings Community

Argonath's SA:MP Division will be welcoming in a new donation system, This donation system will be targeting developers and the progress of the server.

We are going to be doing something that has not been done in Argonath in the past at all which is by bringing in a PAID Developer to work on the scripts that have been promised throughout the years and introduce some new intricate scripts for the players to enjoy.

Argonath in the past has never been about money for progress, But.. In recent times there has been a major lack in developers willing to work for free which is not just because they're busy but because of many other serious issues. But let's not get into that here.

Donating will not be just a simple > Donate > Get thanked > move on scenario, We will be introducing a rewards system to thank anybody that is generous enough to give their hard earned money to Argonath.


  • $5 donated > The donator can receive some of the following: Any amount between $1000-$20000, 1-3 armour/sniper/AK-47 cases, 200 Tacos, 50 cannabis seeds, a vehicle voucher, up to 100 milk. An RPG case, Kungfu blackbelt, boxing blackbelt or High quality aged wine

  • $15 donated > Player can receive some of the following: Any amount between $2,000 and $180,000; 1-3 of armour case, sniper case, or ak-47 case, random amount between $5000 and $50,000; up to 10 continental coins, Truth's Skin, 1-3 M4 case, RPG case, up to 3 Tier 1 reward crates, or 1-3 vehicle licenses or any Legal item sold in stores quantity of 1-5

  • $50 donated > Player can receive some of the following: Any amount between $5,000 and $500,000; 1-10 of Armour Case, Sniper Case, AK-47 Case, up to 15 continental coins, up 6 M4 cases, up to 3 RPG cases, up to 5 T1 crates, or up to 5 vehicle licenses

Players can also choose no reward or even remain anonymous if they wish, For those who do indeed request a gift they will be messaged via Patreon for their ingame name and they will be rewarded a gift by myself or another member of HQ.

Now anybody that plays the server will know that these amounts of items are nothing extreme, they can all be gained in a few minutes/hours of playtime.(these rewards could be changed to fit the current server situation)

We will be using Patreon to log donations and store donated money for payment, So here is the link to the Patreon page where all the donations will go through:
https://www.patreon.com/ArgonathRPG


Please feel free to ask us any questions about this system, Although if you're only here to troll and delay progress in the server you can expect a forum mute.

We do have a highly trained developer who is onboard to help and will be added to the team very shortly once a few things are worked out.

for payment info - https://www.patreon.com/info
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Kowalski. on December 04, 2018, 09:42:27 am
Best of luck! Hope things work out well!
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Younes on December 04, 2018, 09:49:44 am
I'm glad to finally see this. Hope some people are generous to help the server get back on it's feet.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Bogomil on December 04, 2018, 09:53:35 am
The one thing I kept repeating has finally happened. Now it's only a matter of time to see the good results.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Darty on December 04, 2018, 10:09:15 am
Finally the suggestions have been heard, good move.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: youoo on December 04, 2018, 10:16:53 am
Finally! I am glad to see this!
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: JackDockz on December 04, 2018, 10:31:51 am
This is a very nice :app: :app:

Edit: idea*
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: spn1725 on December 04, 2018, 11:38:49 am
What about this?


 http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=38482.msg473637#msg473637

3.   Argonath does not offer privileges against payment. The equal status prohibits any possibility of payment for extra possibilities, rights or money in game.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Chase on December 04, 2018, 11:52:41 am
What about this?


 http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=38482.msg473637#msg473637

3.   Argonath does not offer privileges against payment. The equal status prohibits any possibility of payment for extra possibilities, rights or money in game.

To me at least that's just a vision for a perfect scenario, which is far from what we're in now, not a rulebook written in stone. Gandalf has actually shown interest in some paid reward system since Teddy was around. We do and will continue to do different things with or without Gandalf. One of the reasons RS5 was a pretty big flop on release is due to the idea of waiting for him to sign off on any script change or addition which would come once a month at best.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: thegovernor on December 04, 2018, 04:31:12 pm
lmao $5 for $15k
$15 for $25k
nice australian math
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Stivi on December 04, 2018, 05:25:46 pm
Full transparency if we're paying? I'd like that. Also maybe, what's the priority list?

And how much does he actually want, or just as much as he gets? :/
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Darxez on December 04, 2018, 06:36:47 pm
Did anyone bother looking into the legal aspect of this or do I call the fiscalls :jackson:. Argonath is registered.

We all known it will be used for Carbons drinking problem.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Kostas on December 04, 2018, 06:56:34 pm
Well ... fuck the rewards. Any promises? Will this bring the change we need? Do you truly think that this will bring the server back on its feet? Players online in general are at tops 5 nowadays... Will this get us back?
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: danigold1 on December 04, 2018, 07:11:01 pm
The Patreon is set for monthly pay and there's no option to pay one time only.
Atleast from what I understand.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: jovanca on December 04, 2018, 07:16:05 pm
lmao $5 for $15k
$15 for $25k
nice australian math

This is timon ban him
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: William Carter on December 04, 2018, 07:22:58 pm
Good news :), andeey on fire :balance:
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Mr. Goobii on December 04, 2018, 07:50:47 pm
The Patreon is set for monthly pay and there's no option to pay one time only.
Atleast from what I understand.

You are right on that. Patron is only a subscription based platform. You most cancel the subscription after if you only want to make one payment and not a month-to-month payment.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Bogomil on December 04, 2018, 08:11:42 pm
As much as I like the idea, I think Gandalf should have explained this, because after all server is his. If we somehow manage to collect the needed donations, will that make the owners become more active?
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Kessu on December 04, 2018, 08:23:26 pm
Considering this entire system is made by SA:MP HQ (and them alone) it should not be using the entire community as it's name, but the SA:MP division specifically.

You shouldn't ask for donations for paid developers for Argonath RPG, when it is only one division of the community instead of the entire community, because believe it or not, Argonath RPG is not SA:MP.

VC:MP Management officially will state we have nothing to do with this.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: boostboy on December 04, 2018, 09:15:10 pm
(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/80056715/how-can-we-be-sinking-when-were-200-feet-in-the-air.jpg)
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Badandy on December 04, 2018, 09:19:09 pm
I think we should focus on GTA V Multiplayer development with this because honestly SA:MP is sunk.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on December 04, 2018, 11:49:21 pm
 I am not sure that this is the right way to bring the SA:MP server back active, given the current playerbase(The 2-3 people who join weekly), I doubt any of them can actually afford the smallest donation. And I am really looking forward for the promised updates which were mentioned. Nevertheless, good luck with this!
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Mark on December 05, 2018, 12:52:30 am
I find it shady and shallow. Those rewards demonstrate to me that you did not really thought this much when you wrote it down. I hope i'm wrong but if you want people to donate money and look at this patreon seriously you guys better have a roadmap and explanations for the community, especially on what has happened the last two years. Transparency is something you don't get often, especially here. Nevertheless, good luck getting that 325$ monthly reward.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: clancker on December 05, 2018, 02:24:44 am
I don't mean to hesitate, but did Gandalf approve this?
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Astaroth on December 05, 2018, 02:54:44 am
Best of luck fellas.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Chase on December 05, 2018, 03:08:31 am
Full disclaimer - I am not being paid from this patreon. I would refuse even if I was offered it... This is all going to fund a second developer that will help me work full time on an entire new gamemode.


I find it shady and shallow. Those rewards demonstrate to me that you did not really thought this much when you wrote it down. I hope i'm wrong but if you want people to donate money and look at this patreon seriously you guys better have a roadmap and explanations for the community, especially on what has happened the last two years. Transparency is something you don't get often, especially here. Nevertheless, good luck getting that 325$ monthly reward.

I agree. We need to make a roadmap for RS6. I will work on getting that done next time I get in touch with Andeey and new developer (they live on the other side of the planet from me..).

I don't mean to hesitate, but did Gandalf approve this?

If we still had to wait for Gandalf to sign off on things, we wouldn't be trying anymore. As I said earlier we're not waiting for Gandalf to get things done. If he wants to be more involved then I am sure he'd come around to partake in discussions.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: James on December 05, 2018, 03:56:15 am
Didnt you guys rewrite RS5.2 in another language and named it RS5.3? What happened to it?
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Chase on December 05, 2018, 06:04:03 am
The expert on that, Marcel fell off the face of the planet.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Dennis. on December 05, 2018, 06:08:44 am
Full transparency if we're paying? I'd like that. Also maybe, what's the priority list?

And how much does he actually want, or just as much as he gets? :/
bump
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Andeey on December 05, 2018, 06:25:34 am
The priority is making a new Game mode with all the features promised by the past leaders/developers that have come and gone. We want there to be features that everyone can enjoy bug free, For example a proper drug system, Fishing, Mayoral elections.. and many more.

For everyone wondering how patreon works here is a link that will help you - https://www.patreon.com/info

And yes we are sorry that our previous plan to re-write the code did not come through as intended, The developer who was working on it dissapeared so there isn't much we could do.
Which will not happen with our new developer as he will be under contract to work for the server.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Lonewolf on December 05, 2018, 06:53:53 am
everyone can enjoy bug free
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: JackDockz on December 05, 2018, 08:12:43 am
The expert on that, Marcel fell off the face of the planet.

He fell of the edge?
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Grizz on December 05, 2018, 08:39:21 am
 :dead:
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Younes on December 05, 2018, 08:49:25 am
There should have been some demonstration and a try to bring the community back to play before asking donations in my opinion. Right now I doubt people will really trust a new developer and give him money no matter what you say about him, unless he proves himself and manages to bring this on it's feet then maybe some people would go ahead and see about the donations because it would then look like it's worth spending money for.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: James Conway on December 05, 2018, 10:46:05 am
Considering this entire system is made by SA:MP HQ (and them alone) it should not be using the entire community as it's name, but the SA:MP division specifically.

You shouldn't ask for donations for paid developers for Argonath RPG, when it is only one division of the community instead of the entire community, because believe it or not, Argonath RPG is not SA:MP.
This I agree with. In the Patreon it's not mentioned that it's only for the samp division.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Jeremy. on December 05, 2018, 11:21:48 am
The expert on that, Marcel fell off the face of the planet.

So now you can all understand why I was shitting on him, good morning
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Chase on December 05, 2018, 11:44:49 am
The expert on that, Marcel fell off the face of the planet.

So now you can all understand why I was shitting on him, good morning

I wanted to give him as much benefit of doubt as possible. I didn't work with him much as all in the past so I didn't know him as much as some others. I feel 3 months of zero activity says he is either no longer interested or too busy to be interested. When I say zero I mean zero. All he had to do was speak up and either tell us the situation and when he may be back via any method of communication, or at the very least, tell us he is not or will not be able to support us. The fact we haven't heard a peep out of him but have seen him appear on the forum every now and then is concerning us tho.

The expert on that, Marcel fell off the face of the planet.

He fell of the edge?
I thought the Earth was a globe!  :eek:

Considering this entire system is made by SA:MP HQ (and them alone) it should not be using the entire community as it's name, but the SA:MP division specifically.

You shouldn't ask for donations for paid developers for Argonath RPG, when it is only one division of the community instead of the entire community, because believe it or not, Argonath RPG is not SA:MP.
This I agree with. In the Patreon it's not mentioned that it's only for the samp division.
@Andeey
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Andeey on December 05, 2018, 11:59:04 am
Considering this entire system is made by SA:MP HQ (and them alone) it should not be using the entire community as it's name, but the SA:MP division specifically.

You shouldn't ask for donations for paid developers for Argonath RPG, when it is only one division of the community instead of the entire community, because believe it or not, Argonath RPG is not SA:MP.
This I agree with. In the Patreon it's not mentioned that it's only for the samp division.
I did think i edited it the other night but it seems patreon's page edit function is a bit wonky. However i have edited it not to show we are promoting the SA:MP server.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Rei on December 05, 2018, 12:22:18 pm
marcel cant script anything lol , he just edited stuff
Moderator Comment Marcel made a lot of the code you see in RS5.1 and RS5.2. Please refrain from spewing false information articulated from zero knowledge.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Andeey on December 05, 2018, 12:29:59 pm
May i remind everyone that this topic is for Talking about the donation system, We do not rely on the donations but the more money we can raise the more work we can get done, If we're paying out of pocket we won't last too long with a paid developer. And yes we did try to find a developer willing to work for free for months but nobody stepped forward, So we resulted in a paid developer.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Stivi on December 05, 2018, 12:48:51 pm
The expert on that, Marcel fell off the face of the planet.

So now you can all understand why I was shitting on him, good morning

I wanted to give him as much benefit of doubt as possible. I didn't work with him much as all in the past so I didn't know him as much as some others. I feel 3 months of zero activity says he is either no longer interested or too busy to be interested. When I say zero I mean zero. All he had to do was speak up and either tell us the situation and when he may be back via any method of communication, or at the very least, tell us he is not or will not be able to support us. The fact we haven't heard a peep out of him but have seen him appear on the forum every now and then is concerning us tho.
He made the drug script after you left, so there's that? Called him powerhungry on a discussion in QA chat one time and Mikro and Dylan quit the team :(
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on December 05, 2018, 12:50:23 pm
And yes we are sorry that our previous plan to re-write the code did not come through as intended, The developer who was working on it dissapeared so there isn't much we could do.
Which will not happen with our new developer as he will be under contract to work for the server.

Announcing such a thing without having the funds to pay for the contract and without being able to guarantee that such person won't just skip ship once he has his cash is not the brightest of ideas, to be honest. He should have done something at first - to prove he is interested and motivate the players to donate. Another thing I would like to address is - where are these features coming from? The suggestion board? Half of the ideas are now obsolete and the people who suggested them are long gone. New features is not what's going to bring the community back(Chase, despite all my respect for you - that storage script thing...just no...)

This whole thing feels rushed and unplanned - last time I offered to make a donation I was told off and promised that  "Argonath will never have a donation system!". And I sincerely doubt anyone will donate for just another bunch of promises - we had enough of those.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Miki. on December 05, 2018, 01:16:53 pm
I wish ya'll the best of luck with this but I really doubt it will lead somewhere donations were not asked when the server was at it's peak and when SAMP was alive.
regardless the SAMP division is simply unstable the platform it's self and specially how argonath's server been operating for a quite a while now and even if some one would have the will to donate I doubt he'll trust this cause.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Mark on December 05, 2018, 01:36:58 pm
The expert on that, Marcel fell off the face of the planet.

So now you can all understand why I was shitting on him, good morning

I wanted to give him as much benefit of doubt as possible. I didn't work with him much as all in the past so I didn't know him as much as some others. I feel 3 months of zero activity says he is either no longer interested or too busy to be interested. When I say zero I mean zero. All he had to do was speak up and either tell us the situation and when he may be back via any method of communication, or at the very least, tell us he is not or will not be able to support us. The fact we haven't heard a peep out of him but have seen him appear on the forum every now and then is concerning us tho.

As a member of RS5.1 and 5.2 QA Team i can tell you that most of the time he wasn't doing anything or at least he wasn't showing anything to us. The most active developers have always been Dylan, Mikro and Teddy.
The drug script, which should've been done by him, was rushed in the final weeks prior to the release and it was bugged like hell. We didn't have anything  new to test on Marcel's drug script for months and when we did, it was very late and only a few bugs were fixed, i'm sure that anyone who played back then remembers that after the official release of rs5.2 it was still broken and had to be disabled for some period.

I do not want to blame it all on Marcel but this is why i wouldn't believe someone like him and if people used rough manners to say it on the forums,  they have their reasons. If he had lost any will in scripting for samp he should've quit.

As i said previously, some explanations on what happened and how you guys are going to avoid this from happening again are necessary if you wanna continue with patreon.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Richard. on December 05, 2018, 02:20:00 pm
Full disclaimer - I am not being paid from this patreon. I would refuse even if I was offered it... This is all going to fund a second developer that will help me work full time on an entire new gamemode.
So back in August you stated in the rs5 dev blog that there's something being worked on but can't be shown to the public as there's nothing to show, has there anything been done all these months to show people that you guys are actually taking this seriously?
Surely people aren't going to be donating money to buy freshly baked potatoes or just read more false promises, like the FiveM server, or the new gamemode even.
I mean, I really hope there's a little bit of material you can show publicly about the new gamemode atleast, it has been a couple of months...surely some progress have been made, yes?
Regardless of that, good luck with this. I really do hope these potatoes sell out so you can get going.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Andeey on December 05, 2018, 02:35:13 pm
Alright, Well it's clear that everyone is a bit scepitcal about the idea of a donation system to pay a developer, So i have talked with the leaders and we came to an agreement.

That agreement was that we will pay for this Developer for 30 days, If people aren't satisfied with the progress we are making or it ends up being a bust and nobody likes the work he can put toward the community then we will stop this whole deal and focus our efforts elsewhere, But.. If things work out well and we see some improvements maybe people will be more open to the possibility of a donation system working on Argonath.

* The Patreon page will remain open aswell as the gifting system, Though we do not expect anybody to donate in these first 30 days, If you do happen to donate then that will 100% go towards paying the developer and a little toward the hosted tab(if there is enough).*
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Darxez on December 05, 2018, 07:03:35 pm
Still a lack of transparency. This isn't a surprise however. We're being requested to donate, but I see no way I'll be giving my well earned money to someone I don't even know the name off, or how it will be properly used and even reach the developer. It's not the first time a HQ isn't fully transparent with it's community members, which led to this situation.

I'd donate rather to see a V:MP server up, for that I'm willing to aid.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Bogomil on December 05, 2018, 09:01:59 pm
That's why it's donation system, not taxation system. No one is forcing you to donate. Most of the people commenting here supported that and when it happened they started opposing the HQ again. Donation system existed before, but while it was bugged no one cared.

I'm positive about this and looking forward to donate as soon as I get a chance to.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: AK47 on December 05, 2018, 09:52:22 pm
I'd donate rather to see a V:MP server up, for that I'm willing to aid.

Yes
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Nathan on December 06, 2018, 03:40:52 am
Do you have a timeline on how much time it will take? Are you developing using some sort of sprint/agile methodology and will you show us results on a timely basis?

I'm willing to donate/sponsor a good amount of money (let's just say the entire $325/month can easily be met/exceeded) but I want to make sure that what I'm sponsoring will actually do good, not just have some guy spin his wheels for 3 months and abandon the project. Convince me.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Hevar. on December 06, 2018, 04:09:44 am
What i can get for 100 swedish crowns haha
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Andeey on December 06, 2018, 08:02:46 am
Do you have a timeline on how much time it will take? Are you developing using some sort of sprint/agile methodology and will you show us results on a timely basis?

I'm willing to donate/sponsor a good amount of money (let's just say the entire $325/month can easily be met/exceeded) but I want to make sure that what I'm sponsoring will actually do good, not just have some guy spin his wheels for 3 months and abandon the project. Convince me.
We are going to trial the developer out for 1 month and see how it all goes, i have 100% faith and certainty in the project myself, We are also in the progress of making a base roadmap as we speak.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: jovanca on December 06, 2018, 01:13:08 pm
How can you be sure if players are actually gonna come back anyway? I myself and i imagine there is a lot more people who are simply over samp and have more important things in life to do. And theres also part of the old player base that moved to another server, but honestly i wouldnt even let them back.

What im trying to say, other than fixing scripts do you really think this can also revive the server?
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: tonibler. on December 06, 2018, 01:20:58 pm
supPorted,  some thing Need to be donee  :uhm:

Do you have a timeline on how much time it will take? Are you developing using some sort of sprint/agile methodology and will you show us results on a timely basis?

I'm willing to donate/sponsor a good amount of money (let's just say the entire $325/month can easily be met/exceeded) but I want to make sure that what I'm sponsoring will actually do good, not just have some guy spin his wheels for 3 months and abandon the project. Convince me.

wow  .. Big guy's All . respect To you ! :eek:


How can you be sure if players are actually gonna come back anyway? I myself and i imagine there is a lot more people who are simply over samp and have more important things in life to do. And theres also part of the old player base that moved to another server, but honestly i wouldnt even let them back.

What im trying to say, other than fixing scripts do you really think this can also revive the server?

if People Wan't play Then u're problem is>>?

always "myself Myself" in This server here . all Gready (selfish).

andeey This is Good idea mann money It's yours U do what u like,
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: jovanca on December 06, 2018, 02:11:15 pm
supPorted,  some thing Need to be donee  :uhm:

Do you have a timeline on how much time it will take? Are you developing using some sort of sprint/agile methodology and will you show us results on a timely basis?

I'm willing to donate/sponsor a good amount of money (let's just say the entire $325/month can easily be met/exceeded) but I want to make sure that what I'm sponsoring will actually do good, not just have some guy spin his wheels for 3 months and abandon the project. Convince me.

wow  .. Big guy's All . respect To you ! :eek:


How can you be sure if players are actually gonna come back anyway? I myself and i imagine there is a lot more people who are simply over samp and have more important things in life to do. And theres also part of the old player base that moved to another server, but honestly i wouldnt even let them back.

What im trying to say, other than fixing scripts do you really think this can also revive the server?

if People Wan't play Then u're problem is>>?

always "myself Myself" in This server here . all Gready (selfish).

andeey This is Good idea mann money It's yours U do what u like,

If people want to play why is there 0 people online. And if they dont, script updates might but also might  NOT change their mind.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Jeremy. on December 06, 2018, 03:42:34 pm
It will change mine
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Norrage on December 06, 2018, 03:50:36 pm
I'de rather see my money being spend to pay for a developer developing V:MP than SA:MP.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Rudy on December 06, 2018, 05:31:56 pm
I'de rather see my money being spend to pay for a developer developing V:MP than SA:MP.
This
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: JackDockz on December 06, 2018, 05:33:21 pm
I'de rather see my money being spend to pay for a developer developing V:MP than SA:MP.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Paco on December 06, 2018, 06:16:30 pm
No ones gives a flying fuck where you want to spend your money, this topic was created in SA:MP for SAMP fucking development. If you don't want to support it, then get the fuck out. I think Andeey was very clear regarding the goal the donation was aimed at. And hey, honestly cudos to those in the management trying to satisfy your big luxurious needs.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Norrage on December 06, 2018, 06:20:38 pm
No ones gives a flying fuck where you want to spend your money, this topic was created in SA:MP for SAMP fucking development. If you don't want to support it, then get the fuck out. I think Andeey was very clear regarding the goal the donation was aimed at. And hey, honestly cudos to those in the management trying to satisfy your big luxurious needs.

If they never wanted feedback about it why not post it in News & Announcements instead of SA:MP General? If I remember correctly SA:MP General are about discussions except locked topics.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Paco on December 06, 2018, 06:24:39 pm
No ones gives a flying fuck where you want to spend your money, this topic was created in SA:MP for SAMP fucking development. If you don't want to support it, then get the fuck out. I think Andeey was very clear regarding the goal the donation was aimed at. And hey, honestly cudos to those in the management trying to satisfy your big luxurious needs.

If they never wanted feedback about it why not post it in News & Announcements instead of SA:MP General? If I remember correctly SA:MP General are about discussions except locked topics.
And how's your post a constructive feedback for SA:MP? How does that shit help the SA:MP argo community develop further?
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Norrage on December 06, 2018, 06:26:25 pm
And how's your post a constructive feedback for SA:MP? How does that shit help the SA:MP argo community develop further?

It isn't a constructive feedback post and it doesnt help with the SA:MP Community, however I believe I am still allowed to state what my opinion is on the matter and what I believe can be done better.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Paco on December 06, 2018, 06:30:00 pm
And how's your post a constructive feedback for SA:MP? How does that shit help the SA:MP argo community develop further?

It isn't a constructive feedback post and it doesnt help with the SA:MP Community, however I believe I am still allowed to state what my opinion is on the matter and what I believe can be done better.
And your opinion is welcome, just not in this topic where it's irrelevant as a division of Argo.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Cyclone on December 06, 2018, 07:13:11 pm
Can you just lock the topic? It is turning into a fight like it would anytime Argonath tries to do something.

@Andeey
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: JackDockz on December 06, 2018, 07:25:34 pm
Can people make peace in SAMP please. 20s idea is good and yeah fivem would not benefit Samp but the whole community.
In the other hand, Andeey is Samp div leader and its his choice to do whatever he wants with this division and its a very constructive step tbh towards development since they can get someone full time to work here.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Mr. Goobii on December 06, 2018, 08:15:17 pm
Make SA:MP great again!  :bananarock:
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Sup_ on December 06, 2018, 09:57:56 pm
Make SA:MP great again!  :bananarock:
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Mac Taylor on December 06, 2018, 10:04:46 pm
Make SA:MP great again!  :bananarock:
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Cyclone on December 06, 2018, 10:12:30 pm
Make SA:MP great again!  :bananarock:
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Kowalski. on December 06, 2018, 10:18:55 pm
That's what I said!  :D
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Gird3r on December 06, 2018, 10:34:35 pm
...

 :uhm:

Are you for real? Selling ingame money and stuff? Did you collectively hit your heads on a rock or something in HQ?
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Stivi on December 07, 2018, 01:54:32 am
...

 :uhm:

Are you for real? Selling ingame money and stuff? Did you collectively hit your heads on a rock or something in HQ?
Are you for real? Most of the players who still log in can sponsor a $15k payday for at least 10 players online. It's just there so people donate, not so they get donator perks.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Bogomil on December 07, 2018, 04:43:26 am
...

 :uhm:

Are you for real? Selling ingame money and stuff? Did you collectively hit your heads on a rock or something in HQ?
I don't want to sound disrespectful, but people who join the forum once per year and the game once per five years don't really have the right to be sceptical on ideas like this one simply, because they won't be aware of the server situation. Server is not what it used to be 5 or 10 years ago. Cheers.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Thom on December 07, 2018, 07:39:13 am
For once just stop turning any topic regarding samp into a fight. Those who are around just to be butthurts don't you have anything better to do with your lives?

I'm not talking only for this topic but for all the topics the past months that have been locked.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Gird3r on December 07, 2018, 10:25:07 am
I don't want to sound disrespectful, but people who join the forum once per year and the game once per five years don't really have the right to be sceptical on ideas like this one simply, because they won't be aware of the server situation. Server is not what it used to be 5 or 10 years ago. Cheers.

No you are not being disrespectful.

However, this suggestion directly breaks a point in the Argonath Vision, it was made very clear that there would be no offering of ingame advantages.
It kills the spirit of Argonath RPG in my opinion.

If people want to find a solution that's all good. But what is the point if you kill the soul in the process?
If something should be offered, it should purely be on the cosmetic side. That would be at least somewhat of a compromise.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Bogomil on December 07, 2018, 10:51:49 am
Indeed no one needs $10k or even $100k. If someone is willing to donate it would be because he believes things will change. I suggest removing the in-game rewards and replacing them with donator badge or medals in forum.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Norrage on December 07, 2018, 12:41:03 pm
People are missing the difference between arguements and constructive feedback...
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Sawyer on December 07, 2018, 12:54:04 pm
People are missing the difference between arguements and constructive feedback...
In this mess I just witnessed there is none of the above.

Server is dead, HQ tries to do something > we bitch on them for 'that's not the right away'.
Server is dead, HQ goes inactive > we bitch on them for 'resign if you ain't doing anything'.
Server is dead, HQ does not know what to do > we bitch on them for 'you are not capable of doing anything'.

Either donate or gtfo, simple as that.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Andeey on December 07, 2018, 02:47:29 pm
I don't want to sound disrespectful, but people who join the forum once per year and the game once per five years don't really have the right to be sceptical on ideas like this one simply, because they won't be aware of the server situation. Server is not what it used to be 5 or 10 years ago. Cheers.

No you are not being disrespectful.

However, this suggestion directly breaks a point in the Argonath Vision, it was made very clear that there would be no offering of ingame advantages.
It kills the spirit of Argonath RPG in my opinion.

If people want to find a solution that's all good. But what is the point if you kill the soul in the process?
If something should be offered, it should purely be on the cosmetic side. That would be at least somewhat of a compromise.
No disrespect to you but the gifts given in return for a donation are not anything major, Most of them can be earned in a 1 hour session of playing the game, The vision is also severely outdated and generally doesn't fit alot of the current circumstances, We still stick to the core Argonath, Just some things need a change.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Jeremy. on December 07, 2018, 04:48:27 pm
Moderator Comment Comment removed due to off-topic and insensitive.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Astaroth on December 07, 2018, 07:41:21 pm
Indeed no one needs $10k or even $100k. If someone is willing to donate it would be because he believes things will change. I suggest removing the in-game rewards and replacing them with donator badge or medals in forum.
Yeah, this one seems nice. Or like a mapped board in pershing square that has the players name written out and it stays there for 30 days.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: jesse on December 08, 2018, 06:19:14 pm
gambel 4 donation
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: AryaN on December 08, 2018, 07:43:15 pm
Indeed no one needs $10k or even $100k. If someone is willing to donate it would be because he believes things will change. I suggest removing the in-game rewards and replacing them with donator badge or medals in forum.
Consider it as a gesture of thanks for donating. Why bother making it an issue which is irrelevant?
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Hevar. on December 10, 2018, 04:40:27 pm
What if the donation goes the scripter and the scripter doesn't do his job and ignore all bugs or ideas?
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: jovanca on December 10, 2018, 05:30:02 pm
What if the donation goes the scripter and the scripter doesn't do his job and ignore all bugs or ideas?

they get sued as they will be under a contract
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Mr. Goobii on December 10, 2018, 05:50:52 pm
What if the donation goes the scripter and the scripter doesn't do his job and ignore all bugs or ideas?

Paid after the work being done, that's how I would have done it.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Hevar. on December 10, 2018, 05:57:30 pm
What if the donation goes the scripter and the scripter doesn't do his job and ignore all bugs or ideas?

Paid after the work being done, that's how I would have done it.

I hope so
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Andeey on December 11, 2018, 04:09:56 am
Yes, the developer will be getting paid after his full month of work.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Hevar. on December 13, 2018, 01:00:22 am
Yes, the developer will be getting paid after his full month of work.

If you want, i can be account manager and keep an eye on the money and pay their salary. Im a very trustful person :D
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Andeey on December 13, 2018, 02:25:16 am
UPDATE:


Our new Developer has begun work as of yesterday, Get ready for a better future.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Dennis. on December 13, 2018, 03:28:00 am
Who’s he?
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Axison on December 13, 2018, 04:16:21 am
does he even play SA:MP or...?
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: tonibler. on December 13, 2018, 04:40:58 pm
UPDATE:


Our new Developer has begun work as of yesterday, Get ready for a better future.

wow It's so good Bro  :bananarock: :bananarock: :bananarock:
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Hevar. on December 13, 2018, 07:03:56 pm
Who’s he?

Teddy
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Andeey on December 13, 2018, 08:07:12 pm
Who’s he?
His name is Yashiro and we have decided to keep him off the forums for the beginning, We will be posting our progress and have an active roadmap for everyone to view.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Younes on December 13, 2018, 08:31:48 pm
Who’s he?
His name is Yashiro and we have decided to keep him off the forums for the beginning, We will be posting our progress and have an active roadmap for everyone to view.

Is there a link to the roadmap?
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: youoo on December 13, 2018, 09:27:17 pm
Who’s he?
His name is Yashiro and we have decided to keep him off the forums for the beginning, We will be posting our progress and have an active roadmap for everyone to view.

Is there a link to the roadmap?
He said he will post it soon.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Younes on December 14, 2018, 02:12:56 pm
Who’s he?
His name is Yashiro and we have decided to keep him off the forums for the beginning, We will be posting our progress and have an active roadmap for everyone to view.

Is there a link to the roadmap?
He said he will post it soon.

That's not what he said. What he said was:
His name is Yashiro and we have decided to keep him off the forums for the beginning, We will be posting our progress and have an active roadmap for everyone to view.

I just would love to see that public roadmap and have an idea on what is coming in future. I would like to follow the progress myself.  ;)
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Chase on December 14, 2018, 02:39:50 pm
We have a roadmap website. I just made it public. It's incomplete but still has a lot of tasks added. I'm currently still adding some.

You can view it here: https://inside.argonath.club/projects/rs6/work_packages
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Badandy on December 14, 2018, 03:46:25 pm
We have a roadmap website. I just made it public. It's incomplete but still has a lot of tasks added. I'm currently still adding some.

You can view it here: https://inside.argonath.club/projects/rs6/work_packages

May not be the best place to ask but will there be a stat/money/property reset when this gamemode is done? Since that is what happened when we went from RS4 to RS5.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Chase on December 14, 2018, 09:04:13 pm
May not be the best place to ask but will there be a stat/money/property reset when this gamemode is done? Since that is what happened when we went from RS4 to RS5.

Yes and no - let me explain:

The database will still retain it's data but will be heavily modified for the scope of RS6. However we want to clean up the database by getting rid of old/irrelevant/inactive accounts and asset data.

So to get the best of both ideas, we will be giving a grace period for returning players to join and keep their data. This grace period length has yet to be determined, but it will probably be along the lines of 3-4 weeks after RS6 release. If you return after this grace period is over, your account data will be purged along with others who didn't return. The password hashes will be upgraded to a more industry standard as well. There's nothing necessarily wrong with the current hashing algorithm, but we'd like to improve it by replacing it with a industry standard hashing method designed for passwords.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Jeremy. on December 15, 2018, 09:36:21 pm
UPDATE:


Our new Developer has begun work as of yesterday, Get ready for a better future.

Nice, good luck to him
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Nathan on December 17, 2018, 03:41:50 am
We have a roadmap website. I just made it public. It's incomplete but still has a lot of tasks added. I'm currently still adding some.

You can view it here: https://inside.argonath.club/projects/rs6/work_packages

Awesome. Thanks for this. Expect a donation soon.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Andeey on January 01, 2019, 04:47:03 pm
Thank you to the people who contributed this month, We managed to reach $16 for the month of December!

We will have some updates for you shortly, Bring on 2019!

Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Hevar. on January 01, 2019, 05:54:57 pm
Thank you to the people who contributed this month, We managed to reach $16 for the month of December!

We will have some updates for you shortly, Bring on 2019!

Wihoo 16$ HAHAHAHA #WeMadeIT
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Richard. on January 06, 2019, 02:27:37 pm
Thank you to the people who contributed this month, We managed to reach $16 for the month of December!

We will have some updates for you shortly, Bring on 2019!

What happened with the RS6 roadmap? I tried to check it but it says the RS6 roadmap is closed. I found a new RS6 roadmap, but the description says it will be like RS5.2.5 (with more features). There is another roadmap on it aswell saying RS5.2.5 that will be refactored. Did you guys change the plans in making a new gamemode from scratch... what happened with the developer? Where did those $16 of donations go to? An update would be nice.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Bas on January 06, 2019, 04:45:09 pm
Thank you to the people who contributed this month, We managed to reach $16 for the month of December!

We will have some updates for you shortly, Bring on 2019!

What happened with the RS6 roadmap? I tried to check it but it says the RS6 roadmap is closed. I found a new RS6 roadmap, but the description says it will be like RS5.2.5 (with more features). There is another roadmap on it aswell saying RS5.2.5 that will be refactored. Did you guys change the plans in making a new gamemode from scratch... what happened with the developer? Where did those $16 of donations go to? An update would be nice.

The new developer is hard at work and as far as we know plans have not changed away from the original road map, although it did move to a new link which should be around here somewhere. As you can expect the $16 went to the developer. :)
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Julio. on January 06, 2019, 08:17:30 pm
As a developer myself, I do find that a bit confusing. A professional developer doesn't work for free, so does the $16 mean he did 10 minutes of work for us?

I'd be interested in knowing how the task/reward system is working here.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Bogomil on January 06, 2019, 08:36:09 pm
I believe the owner pays the bills and the donations are small compensation.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: AryaN on January 06, 2019, 08:40:14 pm
I believe the owner pays the bills and the donations are small compensation.
Its probably the management doing all the hard work. I don't think owners pay any attention to server anymore. I have witnessed this myself before too.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Afyea on January 06, 2019, 11:55:27 pm
As far as I understood, the developer is doing first month for free/whatever is raised, in order for us to see if it's worth donating.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Andeey on January 07, 2019, 03:41:33 am
The first month of work is being paid for by us, However the first months donations will go into the 2nd months donations amount, Though if we don't reach the donation limit we will pay however much is remaining ourselves as we're currently pleased with the current workload.

This first month has been more focused on fixing what broken and making room for newer additions(RS6). - (You should notice the server running smoother)

We will post updates weekly if not daily as the new paid month begins.

*EDIT* But ofcourse the more donations we receive the more work we can get done and the longer we can have a paid developer to tend to every development need we might have.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Chase on January 07, 2019, 05:04:30 am
Roadmap is still there. It's just been modified to match our recent decision not to re-write RS5 but refactor it and update it until we reach RS6 version. I haven't posted much because I've been busy working on an update but I will work on it tonight.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: JackDockz on January 07, 2019, 12:36:27 pm
(You should notice the server running smoother)

Runs laggier than ever for me tho at Angel Pine. :uhm:
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Cyclone on January 07, 2019, 01:27:50 pm
Potato asf PC?

I have a laptop from 2012 that has never been checked and formatted shit ton of times because of viruses, but I can get 60 FPS at Angel Pine.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: JackDockz on January 07, 2019, 03:58:48 pm
Potato asf PC?

I have a laptop from 2012 that has never been checked and formatted shit ton of times because of viruses, but I can get 60 FPS at Angel Pine.

No, I normally ran upto full 90 fps on Samp. Gta 4 works smoother than Samp rn
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Skecis on January 07, 2019, 04:18:39 pm
Potato asf PC?

I have a laptop from 2012 that has never been checked and formatted shit ton of times because of viruses, but I can get 60 FPS at Angel Pine.

No, I normally ran upto full 90 fps on Samp. Gta 4 works smoother than Samp rn

This is getting off topic, but - Maybe some mods or something doesn't agree with concentrated population and/or custom mapping? A few days ago ad to switch to 5y/o laptop, and it's quite shit. Can play GTA 4 only on min settings and with huge frame drops, but nowhere in samp it lags or spikes for me.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Thom on January 07, 2019, 09:04:25 pm
Potato asf PC?

I have a laptop from 2012 that has never been checked and formatted shit ton of times because of viruses, but I can get 60 FPS at Angel Pine.

This is funny my pc is 15 years old with only a graphics card renewal 5 years ago and my sa:mp runs fine at AP.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: JackDockz on January 08, 2019, 06:42:03 am
Potato asf PC?

I have a laptop from 2012 that has never been checked and formatted shit ton of times because of viruses, but I can get 60 FPS at Angel Pine.

No, I normally ran upto full 90 fps on Samp. Gta 4 works smoother than Samp rn

This is getting off topic, but - Maybe some mods or something doesn't agree with concentrated population and/or custom mapping? A few days ago ad to switch to 5y/o laptop, and it's quite shit. Can play GTA 4 only on min settings and with huge frame drops, but nowhere in samp it lags or spikes for me.

Did try with a clean copy. Same result. Most probably due to large no of objects near fd and pd.
Runs smoother at windowed mode but same resolution.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Denis_Koja on January 08, 2019, 07:30:30 am
Interesting...
It's good to know some people still care for this server and the community.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Andeey on January 08, 2019, 12:59:46 pm
Potato asf PC?

I have a laptop from 2012 that has never been checked and formatted shit ton of times because of viruses, but I can get 60 FPS at Angel Pine.

No, I normally ran upto full 90 fps on Samp. Gta 4 works smoother than Samp rn

This is getting off topic, but - Maybe some mods or something doesn't agree with concentrated population and/or custom mapping? A few days ago ad to switch to 5y/o laptop, and it's quite shit. Can play GTA 4 only on min settings and with huge frame drops, but nowhere in samp it lags or spikes for me.

Did try with a clean copy. Same result. Most probably due to large no of objects near fd and pd.
Runs smoother at windowed mode but same resolution.
This isn't the place for PC help but i can tell you that i am currently running Argonath on a dual core laptop built in 2009, with 4gb of DDR2 ram and a cracked windows 7, running at 60 fps in angel pine, with a minimum framerate of 58 according to MSI afterburner, So there must be something else wrong with your game/PC.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Andeey on January 13, 2019, 11:12:58 am
I regret to inform everybody that our Developer Yashiro has given us word that he will no longer be able to work for Argonath due to lack of time and irl issues, Though in this small time we have managed to work hard and speed up the server and make room for new scripts thanks to @Chase and Yashiro, Now with this being said we have been exploring other options but have come out dry as unfortunately there isn't many people willing to work for a SA:MP server.

Moving forward we will keep the donation page open for if anybody wishes to help pay for the hosted tab of SA:MP and if people are pleased with future scripting we can possibly reward our hard working Developer.

Now that everything is in order to continue scripting we will still be focusing on RS6 though it may take a little bit longer than expected due to not having a paid developer on board.
(We have some scripts currently in testing so lookout for future updates)
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Kowalski. on January 13, 2019, 11:15:40 am
Unfortunate. Hope things work out for the best!
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on January 13, 2019, 08:03:04 pm
 So the first month was pro bono, he leaves early second month. Was he paid for it? I thought things were set in stone and were going to work. Way I see it, no official communication from his side, just a name mentioned, Roadmap's down so no way to confirm what part of the work was done by him. So he ditched with our money? Or he was not paid? Or was this all sand in the players' eyes? If I recall correctly we had people willing to sponsor the Hosted tab without the use of the donation system and that worked out well.

 Not putting the blame on any of the HQ, but this pretty much compromises everything achieved since the announcement and pretty much kills off any hope for progress. Chase said it on his own - he can't pull off a new script on his own. Kudos for the effort, but I believe that's it. Good luck in the future!
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: JackDockz on January 13, 2019, 08:53:15 pm
Atleast something greats coming up.

Well if I recall, he was paid after the job was done. So he probably didn't get the second month's money.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Chase on January 13, 2019, 09:53:32 pm
AFAIK nobody was paid. While I can't make an entire game mode from scratch in a timely manner, the only thing I can do is try to upgrade RS5 the best I can.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Antonio. on January 13, 2019, 10:59:54 pm
Lol
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Grizz on January 14, 2019, 08:05:24 am
Lol
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Mark on January 14, 2019, 10:32:18 am
Please no more promises, this is more ridiculous than the whole no blip arguments by Gandalf.

Give a final update to this old game mode and let it go. GTA V is the future if you guys want to bring back some interest in the community.

Good luck
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Bogomil on January 14, 2019, 11:36:35 am
Things will get better, don't lose hope.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Afyea on January 14, 2019, 12:44:32 pm
Things will get better, don't lose hope.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: William Carter on January 14, 2019, 02:58:00 pm
Please no more promises, this is more ridiculous than the whole no blip arguments by Gandalf.

Give a final update to this old game mode and let it go. GTA V is the future if you guys want to bring back some interest in the community.

Good luck
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Darxez on January 14, 2019, 07:49:24 pm
Lol
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Teddy on January 14, 2019, 08:01:55 pm
this is more ridiculous than the whole no blip arguments by Gandalf.

Ironic ;)
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Andeey on January 14, 2019, 08:06:31 pm
Godamn it @Teddy beat me to the topic, Welcome back Teddy as a developer, This time as a PAID developer.

"lifts up coffee cup"  Let's have a good 2019 folks!


Do note: If anybody thinks they can spread hate and negativity to try get rid of hope and in attempt to disrupt progress you can expect a full forum/ingame ban.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Mr. Goobii on January 14, 2019, 08:11:06 pm
this is more ridiculous than the whole no blip arguments by Gandalf.

Ironic ;)

I can't believe my eyes!  :eek:

Welcome back!
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Carbon on January 14, 2019, 08:16:36 pm
Whalecum back Teddy.  :bananarock:
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: AK47 on January 14, 2019, 08:20:11 pm
Ironic ;)

Heeeeyaaaaaa
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Teddy on January 14, 2019, 08:21:11 pm
Ironic ;)

Heeeeyaaaaaa

Yo
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Paco on January 14, 2019, 08:29:48 pm
Ironic ;)

Heeeeyaaaaaa

Yo
Now, that's a nigga I wanna pay for. Good to see you again, pal. Hit us up on discord, we still here
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: HomeLess on January 14, 2019, 08:30:41 pm
Welcome Back @Teddy  :gand:
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on January 14, 2019, 08:33:56 pm
Kudos for the effort, but I believe that's it.

You know what, for get I said anything...


Welcome back Teddy!
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: JackDockz on January 14, 2019, 08:36:31 pm
These 2 weeks have good news finally. :bananarock:
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Teddy on January 14, 2019, 08:42:59 pm
Ironic ;)

Heeeeyaaaaaa

Yo
Now, that's a nigga I wanna pay for. Good to see you again, pal. Hit us up on discord, we still here


Ayyyyyyyeee send me an inv to WS Discord man.

Kudos for the effort, but I believe that's it.

You know what, for get I said anything...


Welcome back Teddy!

o/

Welcome Back @Teddy  :gand:

\o

Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: AryaN on January 14, 2019, 08:47:10 pm
I don't know why but now i certainly know Argonath will be back on track. I always loved your work mate. Welcome back .
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: HemanthTG on January 14, 2019, 08:52:33 pm
Welcome back, @Teddy !

(https://media.giphy.com/media/OC5Wo0drhtbwc/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Antonio. on January 14, 2019, 09:07:54 pm
Seems too good to be true after that last update. :lol:
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Cyclone on January 14, 2019, 09:11:49 pm
TEDDY
COME
SUCK
MY
TITTY


#TCSMT2019
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Bogomil on January 14, 2019, 09:16:50 pm
Welcome back, dude. If you spend a week reading how everyone praised your efforts, you'll see what a significant role you had. Hope you stay longer this time.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: martin_farm. on January 14, 2019, 09:19:36 pm
how mutch salary? Wow Rich ass's  :app: :app:
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Hammer_ on January 14, 2019, 09:22:17 pm
Welcome back! People who didn’t even know who you were praised you, :P Good to see you back.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Badandy on January 14, 2019, 09:22:53 pm
Welcome back, Teddy!
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Afyea on January 14, 2019, 09:43:22 pm
Welcome back!
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Skecis on January 14, 2019, 10:30:41 pm
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Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Rei on January 14, 2019, 11:36:57 pm
Back Welcome
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Dennis. on January 15, 2019, 12:39:49 am
That’s what I was saying to HQ! Welcome back Teddy! Make Argonath great again!
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: StevenCollin on January 15, 2019, 04:11:13 am
Welcome back Teddy.. :bananav:
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Shorty. on January 15, 2019, 08:46:23 am
Ironic ;)

Heeeeyaaaaaa

Yo
It’s just too late, but WB  :app:
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Sarmed on January 15, 2019, 09:16:16 am
Damn! Welcome back!
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: William Carter on January 15, 2019, 01:25:54 pm
Song for you teddy..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYwF-jdcVjY
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: julian_Censor on January 15, 2019, 06:20:25 pm
this si good, i like it
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Hevar. on January 15, 2019, 07:34:37 pm
i donated 100 euro, i heard Andeey took and it spent it on Pornhub membership.

In that case, that account should be shared to all argonath players.

@Andeey share the password
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Kenji on January 15, 2019, 08:13:38 pm
i donated 100 euro, i heard Andeey took and it spent it on Pornhub membership.

In that case, that account should be shared to all argonath players.

@Andeey share the password
haha
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Logan_Paul on January 15, 2019, 08:39:52 pm
I hope I donate too on server but I cant I ban :(
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Bogomil on January 15, 2019, 08:43:57 pm
You don't need to be unbanned to donate.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Logan_Paul on January 15, 2019, 08:47:32 pm
Really then tell me how I donate?
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: AK47 on January 15, 2019, 09:25:40 pm
Really then tell me how I donate?

First page ... https://www.patreon.com/ArgonathRPG
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: JackDockz on January 15, 2019, 09:29:23 pm
I hope I donate too on server but I cant I ban :(

Donations are for real money not ingame money
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Andeey on February 01, 2019, 03:16:53 pm
Thanks to everybody that donated! we managed to raise $80 in the month of January!

That's a crazy amount to have gotten and we couldn't be more greatful. Just a small reminder that the more money that's donated = the more work that gets done.

Remember to post your development ideas in the SA:MP ideas boards and communicate with our developers!
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Kaze on February 01, 2019, 03:33:18 pm
Despite this community being somewhat toxic (from what I can remember) I will not hesitate to throw a donation. Argonath will forever be in my heart for the countless of enjoyable childhood. Gotta wait for payday because I literally just a ticket to go Amsterdam. Expect a donation from me in the near future. @Teddy welcome back man, shame you're doing this paid but if it means reviving this server then so be it. I'll be lurking in the background to see your development. Goodluck!



@Brian. Let's sort out my unban request in person, come Amsterdam 6th of February. #GetTheStrap #ComeAroundTheCorner  :D
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Bogomil on February 01, 2019, 03:35:20 pm
Brian is a regular player now and you tagged the wrong one .  :D
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: JackDockz on February 01, 2019, 04:43:21 pm
You tagged the wrong brian.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Andeey on February 24, 2019, 07:03:40 am
Greetings Community,

With the release of the RAGEMP server we have decided to dedicate funding toward that server instead of SA:MP, This doesn't mean we are stopping this system or stopping development for that matter.

Due to getting help from a very generous player we are able to keep Teddy onboard at a much lower rate which means Teddy will be working for alot less than what was agreed upon, This means there will obviously be a change in working hours but still enough time to make progress in the scripts.

Though this also means that the more money that is raised toward the patreon goal will go to extra hours being worked on the server.

Here's a special thank you to everyone who has already been kind enough to donate to the server, We couldn't have done this without you and we wouldn't have progressed as far as we already have if it wasn't for you all! (lots more to come)
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Andeey on March 25, 2019, 12:48:03 am
Gday, We have decided to rework the reward system to increase the potential loot from donation rewards, The section posted below is now updated on the first post.

  • $5 donated > The donator can receive some of the following: Any amount between $1000-$20000, 1-3 armour/sniper/AK-47 cases, 200 Tacos, 50 cannabis seeds, a vehicle voucher, up to 100 milk. An RPG case, Kungfu blackbelt, boxing blackbelt or High quality aged wine

  • $15 donated > Player can receive some of the following: Any amount between $2,000 and $180,000; 1-3 of armour case, sniper case, or ak-47 case, random amount between $5000 and $50,000; up to 10 continental coins, Truth's Skin, 1-3 M4 case, RPG case, up to 3 Tier 1 reward crates, or 1-3 vehicle licenses or any Legal item sold in stores quantity of 1-5

  • $50 donated > Player can receive some of the following: Any amount between $5,000 and $500,000; 1-10 of Armour Case, Sniper Case, AK-47 Case, up to 15 continental coins, up 6 M4 cases, up to 3 RPG cases, up to 5 T1 crates, or up to 5 vehicle licenses
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Stivi on March 25, 2019, 02:19:57 pm
Doesn't the money go to GTA5?
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Hevar. on March 25, 2019, 02:27:34 pm
Why would donator get Kungfu blackbelt, boxing blackbelt  when it cost 20$ ingame? hahaha
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Thomas_A on March 25, 2019, 03:15:47 pm
Doesn't the money go to GTA5?
This doesn't mean we are stopping this system or stopping development for that matter.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Teddy on March 25, 2019, 03:51:12 pm
Why would donator get Kungfu blackbelt, boxing blackbelt  when it cost 20$ ingame? hahaha

To be fair, these weren't designed with being a donation reward they were intended for in-game rewards and login bonuses.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Hevar. on March 25, 2019, 05:02:53 pm
Why would donator get Kungfu blackbelt, boxing blackbelt  when it cost 20$ ingame? hahaha

To be fair, these weren't designed with being a donation reward they were intended for in-game rewards and login bonuses.

Honestly Kung fu and boxing blackbelt should cost more. My Ganton gym doesn't make profit it only cost 20$ as limit
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Jeremy. on April 18, 2019, 08:24:29 pm
Any reason why the server is inactive again? There is still more developement on GTA V instead of SAMP?
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Bartek on April 19, 2019, 06:48:25 pm
Any reason why the server is inactive again? There is still more developement on GTA V instead of SAMP?

Considering it's the IV:MP developers working on V:MP I find it hard to understand where you get this assumption from.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Teddy on July 02, 2019, 02:47:06 pm
As there is no more funding, my deal to continue to work on SA-MP has reached its end.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: badboy.dhia on July 02, 2019, 03:14:52 pm
As there is no more funding, my deal to continue to work on SA-MP has reached its end.
manny players are under 18yo , and some others including me ,paypall ,neteller are banned in my country ...also the server is kinda empty this days ..
all argonath rpg scripters should be paid from the community leaders for work.
i really hope u change ur mind and u stay cuz SAMP community really needs such amazing scripters like u and chase.
and we are more than grateful for all the hard work that u did for us so we can enjooy the game  :)
thank you
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Kessu on July 02, 2019, 04:28:55 pm
As there is no more funding, my deal to continue to work on SA-MP has reached its end.
all argonath rpg scripters should be paid from the community leaders for work.
aahahahahahhahah fuck no
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Morais on July 02, 2019, 04:52:32 pm
As there is no more funding, my deal to continue to work on SA-MP has reached its end.

How much for RS6?
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: danigold1 on July 02, 2019, 04:54:20 pm
As there is no more funding, my deal to continue to work on SA-MP has reached its end.

How much for RS6?
They need about tree fiddy.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on July 02, 2019, 05:55:43 pm
As there is no more funding, my deal to continue to work on SA-MP has reached its end.
manny players are under 18yo , and some others including me ,paypall ,neteller are banned in my country ...also the server is kinda empty this days ..
all argonath rpg scripters should be paid from the community leaders for work.
i really hope u change ur mind and u stay cuz SAMP community really needs such amazing scripters like u and chase.
and we are more than grateful for all the hard work that u did for us so we can enjooy the game  :)
thank you

I do agree that payments should be given by the respective community/division leaders in order to avoid people sponsoring such features and magically joining staff and climbing up the ladder in no time.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Kostas on July 02, 2019, 06:07:26 pm
Ey lmao
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Kostas on July 02, 2019, 06:08:10 pm
Just fucking kill it already. Take it from this misery.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Marcell on July 02, 2019, 06:10:09 pm
Just fucking kill it already. Take it from this misery.
I'm sure the rs4 server will bring back argo prime and 200 players per day just matter of time, players are busy with exams nowadays and its holidays too, some are probably fighting as mercenaries in ukraine as well.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Morais on July 02, 2019, 06:23:19 pm
Just fucking kill it already. Take it from this misery.
I'm sure the rs4 server will bring back argo prime and 200 players per day just matter of time, players are busy with exams nowadays and its holidays too, some are probably fighting as mercenaries in ukraine as well.

You're a visionary.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Nathan on July 02, 2019, 06:28:38 pm
Just fucking kill it already. Take it from this misery.
I'm sure the rs4 server will bring back argo prime and 200 players per day just matter of time, players are busy with exams nowadays and its holidays too, some are probably fighting as mercenaries in ukraine as well.

 :lol:
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Conor_Bradford on July 02, 2019, 06:32:12 pm
players are busy with exams nowadays
Exams in July? Jeez come on
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: KJ_deactivated on July 02, 2019, 06:43:25 pm
Just fucking kill it already. Take it from this misery.
I'm sure the rs4 server will bring back argo prime and 200 players per day just matter of time, players are busy with exams nowadays and its holidays too, some are probably fighting as mercenaries in ukraine as well.

 :app: :app: :app:
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: James on July 02, 2019, 06:46:31 pm
Don't know why my post got disapproved from posting but again, RS4 needs to happen
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Norrage on July 02, 2019, 06:50:53 pm
players are busy with exams nowadays
Exams in July? Jeez come on

Oi I got exams in July :(
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Bas on July 02, 2019, 06:51:35 pm
players are busy with exams nowadays
Exams in July? Jeez come on

Oi I got exams in July :(

Same, last is on the 11th of july :l
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Teddy on July 02, 2019, 07:31:03 pm
For the record, I did attempt to get the RS4 server up however as the code was incredibly dated, it requires a lengthy task of updating outdated functions to newer versions, as well as plugins. The code was written for a much older version of SA-MP. I did say it wouldn't be as straight forward, but nobody listened.. go figure. The server does run, but most of it does not work.

Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Nathan on July 09, 2019, 03:12:08 am
A 2 month contract has been established with Teddy to continue development on SA:MP and V:MP now that he has a PC he can use. After two months, I will review what has been accomplished and will decide whether financial support makes sense.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] Donation System
Post by: Nathan on July 27, 2019, 06:39:43 am
Locking this topic and removing sticky for now.

We will revisit the donation aspect in two months and as well as the incentives they provide.
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