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Title: Presidential Candidates
Post by: schfifty on February 06, 2008, 05:49:45 am
The people of america have spoken about who they wanted as the next candidates of the President of the USA...how about you? Please, no arguments.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 06, 2008, 05:53:41 am
I still want Bush as president.

Obama & Clinton are pussies and will make America look like Pussies.
You think what we did to Hiroshima (LMFAO THEY GOT OWNED)
Will ever happen again with Hilary Clinton in the chair?

It will be like

*Japan bombs america
*America says: please, that hurt, dont do it again or ill /report ID
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: schfifty on February 06, 2008, 05:56:53 am
If you are seriously serious, I salute you for not smearing the president  ;) sometimes I can't even help but blame him however I am a republican.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Rusty on February 06, 2008, 06:22:14 am
Even though am not American i'd Vote Barack Obama.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: X~Shaheen~X on February 06, 2008, 06:40:43 am
hillary is popular only because shes a girl, did u see the voters and stuff on her side? all 60+ old ladies.
barack obama is black - first black president - his supporters are blacks

all thats left is white men and they appear to be majority. hillary and obama just happen to be out of the ordinary and like most humans they support their own cause. heck id vote for a white president male not that i hate blacks nor females but id feel relaxed knowing a person of my kind is running the country


- im also canadian so dont bomb shell me if im off
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 06, 2008, 06:53:47 am
hillary is popular only because shes a girl, did u see the voters and stuff on her side? all 60+ old ladies.
barack obama is black - first black president - his supporters are blacks

all thats left is white men and they appear to be majority. hillary and obama just happen to be out of the ordinary and like most humans they support their own cause. heck id vote for a white president male not that i hate blacks nor females but id feel relaxed knowing a person of my kind is running the country


- im also canadian so dont bomb shell me if im off
Totally fucking agree!
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Shifter on February 06, 2008, 07:02:15 am
You think what we did to Hiroshima (LMFAO THEY GOT OWNED)
Tbh, noone deserved what happened that day, Many MANY innocent people like you and me were killed that day.......you may think they deserved because what they did to your country, But I personally think Americans Retaliation was a tad rash...But that is only my opinion, I have no real interest in war.

On topic: Since im not American It doesnt really matter to me all that much who wins.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Omri on February 06, 2008, 07:41:40 am
I will not vote on bush, but the black dude dont remembers his name :(
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Jcstodds on February 06, 2008, 08:19:52 am
Maybe we could have elections for Argonaths Mayors ? :)
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Anto on February 06, 2008, 08:30:42 am

You think what we did to Hiroshima (LMFAO THEY GOT OWNED)


I can understand your patrism Hayden but i don't agree with that and what you just said was sick, thousands of people died...No one deserves to be laughed at if they get hit by a radio-active bomb that deforms them and burns their city.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: schfifty on February 06, 2008, 03:45:03 pm
Maybe we could have elections for Argonaths Mayors ? :)
I like it!
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: PMP on February 06, 2008, 04:14:08 pm
2. Do not be inflammatory. Political discussions can get heated - do not resort to puerile tactics to prove a point.

Facing that rule, this topic should be locked.

But cause I can't contain myself on flame Mr Bush...and every idiot that supports him.

I'm glad that Bush is getting out cause Mr Bush is the leading cause to world wars.
People are dieing in Iraq since US army landed there troops there.

Were are the mass destrution weapons?
When will the "fast and clean war end"?
Who is going to be the next target?

I still want Bush as president.

Obama & Clinton are pussies and will make America look like Pussies.
You think what we did to Hiroshima (LMFAO THEY GOT OWNED)
Will ever happen again with Hilary Clinton in the chair?

It will be like

*Japan bombs america
*America says: please, that hurt, dont do it again or ill /report ID
That was a racist, flamming and completly idiotic comment.
I got warned for saying the word Serbia.
I hope you get banned you american redneck.
You know, thats cause of that coments that I enjoyed seeing WTC fall.
It was like USA itself falling.
US thought they were invincible, no1 is.

Obviously you don't pay taxes Hayden, but almost half US taxes go to war.
US is said to be a evolved country, but people still leave in wooden houses.
Celebs see there houses burn to dust in malibu fires. Never in europe that kind of stuff happens.
US is the leading ocidental country in homicide numbers. People get shot to death every day.
In Europe people don't leave afraid every day.
US will kill themselfs. The society makes kids burst into schools killing their classmates. Where in Europe that happends.

My only hope to the future is that UE get stronger and that united, world's oldest countries manage to overcome US power and finality make a peaceful world.

Hiroshima! It was the Einsteins fault too.

I would vote for Hillary cause Clinton was one of the best presidents in US.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: [GSF]Niall on February 06, 2008, 04:23:28 pm
You think what we did to Hiroshima (LMFAO THEY GOT OWNED)
that's probably the most ignorent thing i have ever heard in this forum, i'm disgusted at what you said, that's like me saying that america got 'OWNED' at 9/11, grow up.

also i honestly don't know why you want bush even though that is your opinion, anyways if i could vote i would vote for obama if not obama then hilary
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: tiderman on February 06, 2008, 04:45:06 pm
I still want Bush as president.

Obama & Clinton are pussies and will make America look like Pussies.
You think what we did to Hiroshima (LMFAO THEY GOT OWNED)
Will ever happen again with Hilary Clinton in the chair?

Wow. Just Wow. You say they got owned and want to bomb again? :neutral:
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Aragorn on February 06, 2008, 06:54:34 pm
I would like Gandalf, but presidents must not be clever (in any country and America as well)...

And I would like to know those guys who stand behind ALL of those "candidates"... But if I will know - I will be dead...
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 06, 2008, 07:15:02 pm
hehe, i started one again.


Yea i know i shouldent have the 'owned' part, but whatever.


"People are dieing in Iraq since US army landed there troops there." - Do you have even 1 clue, of what we are doing over there?
your answer: "Killing innocent people"



The reason i used "You think what we did to Hiroshima
Will ever happen again with Hilary Clinton in the chair?"
Is because, lets say japan bombed us back, like in Pearl harbour again.

Bush would probably bomb them back 4x harder.
Clinton & Obama - they would ask not to do it again.

Thats the reason i said that, thats how i feel about the whole sitiuation.



Niall, i understand that you think what i said was wrong, but did you ever think to what they did to us?
:ps: Watch the movie Pearl Harbor.

I'd say we got them back damn good.


I hope you get banned you american redneck.++++

I'd tell you to fuck off and die, but i wont.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Omri on February 06, 2008, 07:20:39 pm
This topic is soon going way out of hands please stick to the topic and dont come with any racist notes..
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: CM Daniel on February 06, 2008, 07:21:45 pm
Let's not forget Japan had some not-so-guilty persons living in their country at the time they were bombed back into the stone age.

I don't mind who gets elected for president in America, as I'm not American. Only thing I care about is who gets elected as prime minister in the Netherlands... Damn excuses for making things more expensive. :(
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 06, 2008, 07:22:46 pm
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that's probably the most ignorent thing i have ever heard in this forum, i'm disgusted at what you said, that's like me saying that america got 'OWNED' at 9/11, grow up.

True, but think about this.

When osama, or whoever flew the planes into the Twin Towers, what were they doing? Dancing, celebrating, praying to allah, laughing at us cry and hurt, laughing at us jump out of the buildings, laughing at us, because we cry because our loved ones are dead.

Japan did the same - you think they were laughing, when we bombed them back with an Atomic bomb on them? I think not.

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Let's not forget Japan had some not-so-guilty persons living in their country at the time they were bombed back into the stone age.
/me agrees
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: PMP on February 06, 2008, 07:24:56 pm
I'm also much more interested in my country election.
But, all world economy spins around US, if they start a war, fuel price goes up.
Fuel price goes up. Everything you buy will have the price growing too.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: CM Daniel on February 06, 2008, 07:27:52 pm
I'm also much more interested in my country election.
But, all world economy spins around US, if they start a war, fuel price goes up.
Fuel price goes up. Everything you buy will have the price growing too.

Currently other countries are profiting over America at the moment. Due to the low value of that dollar. Ka-ching.  :money:
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: PMP on February 06, 2008, 07:29:02 pm
Currently other countries are profiting over America at the moment. Due to the low value of that dollar. Ka-ching.  :money:
which is bad for us cause people now buy stuff from US instead of european made stuff(Which is much better).
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 06, 2008, 07:32:22 pm
Currently other countries are profiting over America at the moment. Due to the low value of that dollar. Ka-ching.  :money:
Yea that sucks alot :(

I gotta move to Europe sometime :D



PMP, Stop with your dumbass comments, trying to flame me & my country, who cares if EU makes some things better than US, Japan makes some better things than US & EU, So what?
Other countrys make some things better than others, its life.

Thats like saying "Hayden cant make a handmade carpet from India as good as the indian lady can"
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: PMP on February 06, 2008, 07:36:51 pm
You started it by saying Japan got Owned.

That just shows how unhonorables Americans are.

Atomic bomb wasn't even developed by americans.
Just cause some US president decided to press a button millions died.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: CM Daniel on February 06, 2008, 07:44:21 pm
Why do we always have to shoot eachother when it comes down to the difference of countries. :D
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: PMP on February 06, 2008, 07:46:16 pm
Why do we always have to shoot eachother when it comes down to the difference of countries. :D
Cause he is flamming Japan. One of the worlds most honorable countries.
And there aren't Japanese people on forum. No honor in attacking someone who can't defend.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Gandalf on February 06, 2008, 07:47:27 pm
Well 'Hayden let me ask you what takes more courage. To press that button and kill, or not to press it and risk your own life to save others.

BTW Americans are in Iraq because they accused the former leader of having such weapons that could kill millions. Bush could have pushed that button at the time, but he chose to use his soldiers instead. And while I am not agreed with the reason they are there, I respect the soldiers that go there to try and establish peace.

And when you are talking about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, people were dancing and celebrating the defeat of the Japanese at the time millions of innocent people died.
Besides that I know that some of the 9/11 'celebrations' were completely unrelated to the attack and were just shown by the media.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: CM Daniel on February 06, 2008, 07:49:55 pm
Besides that I know that some of the 9/11 'celebrations' were completely unrelated to the attack and were just shown by the media.

So people wouldn't go midevil on Bush's ass for sending troops to Iraq. :D
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 06, 2008, 07:59:16 pm
You started it by saying Japan got Owned.
That just shows how unhonorables Americans are.
PiMP, what do you think Japan was saying towards us, when they bombed us


Atomic bomb wasn't even developed by americans.
Haha, your so ignorant.
Well, lets take some history here.

J. Robert Oppenheimer, he was an American theoretical physicist, not Brazilian, not Portuguese.
He was the creator of the first Atomic Bomb.

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Just cause some US president decided to press a button millions died.
Yep.
And just because some japanese president decided to Attack us, 2350 died, including 68 civilians, and 1178 injured.

Robert Oppenheimer did not realise the full power of the atomic bomb
(from wiki)
"Oppenheimer was shocked by the weapon's killing power after it was used to destroy the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Quoting from the Bhagavad Gita, he said "If the radiance of a thousand suns were to burst at once into the sky, that would be like the splendor of the mighty one. Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."


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"BTW Americans are in Iraq because they accused the former leader of having such weapons that could kill millions. Bush could have pushed that button at the time, but he chose to use his soldiers instead."

Exactly, not to kill innocents, not to do this & that.

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Hayden let me ask you what takes more courage. To press that button and kill, or not to press it and risk your own life to save others.
The latter.


What im saying is, i fear that if clinton gets elected, and someone attacks us, lets say Al Qaeda forces attack US with a bomb, i fear that she will want to do nothing in countermeasures.



PiMP, where am i flaming Japan?
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: PMP on February 06, 2008, 08:11:53 pm
US army tested the bombs before the launchings, and they only launched Fat Man 3 days after the first launching. I think they knew what they were doing.
How can people accuse hitler of illegally occupying territories and let Bush occupy Afghanistan and Iraq?

You flammed Japan by saying they were "owned" and by laughing at the fact that millions lost their lives.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Jcstodds on February 06, 2008, 08:28:19 pm
Guys there is a lot of offtopic here. Remember think what reaction you will get from what you have typed before you post.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 06, 2008, 08:32:05 pm
Guys there is a lot of offtopic here. Remember think what reaction you will get from what you have typed before you post.
Yes Jcs...
But a picture is worth 1000 words :D

(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z239/rob_loves_hot_moms/1198876902400.gif)
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Wolfe on February 06, 2008, 08:43:54 pm
so you celebrate million of deaths..imagine if it was one of your friends that died there,you woulnt fell so hapy right..now japan destroyed military ships and killed soldiers that what happen in a war but US go and kill inocents civilians,that aint right neither should be celebrate...
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Gandalf on February 06, 2008, 08:47:23 pm
So people wouldn't go midevil on Bush's ass for sending troops to Iraq. :D
troops to Iraq were two years later  ;)
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: UberPwner on February 06, 2008, 08:50:31 pm
Hayden Hayden Hayden.....

I am in no way Japaniese, but i am digusted at what you said, Absolutly DISGUSTED.


IN NO WAY would/should you laugh at a country at being bombed with MILLIONS dead, Unless you had some kind of "Problem"

Let us set another FOV,

A japanese person laughing a Pearl Harbour or 9/11

Feelings now hayden?

Pretty shit methinks.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: CM Daniel on February 06, 2008, 08:57:20 pm
troops to Iraq were two years later  ;)

Better starting to spread hate early than late.  ;)

But I don't know anything about what Bush did good or bad.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Knoothead on February 06, 2008, 08:59:44 pm
PiMP, what do you think Japan was saying towards us, when they bombed us
J. Robert Oppenheimer, he was an American theoretical physicist, not Brazilian, not Portuguese.
He was the creator of the first Atomic Bomb.


Robert Oppenheimer did not realise the full power of the atomic bomb
(from wiki)
"Oppenheimer was shocked by the weapon's killing power after it was used to destroy the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Quoting from the Bhagavad Gita, he said "If the radiance of a thousand suns were to burst at once into the sky, that would be like the splendor of the mighty one. Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."



If i've known that this morning in school i wouldwe have A+!!
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 06, 2008, 09:09:55 pm
Hayden Hayden Hayden.....

I am in no way Japaniese, but i am digusted at what you said, Absolutly DISGUSTED.


IN NO WAY would/should you laugh at a country at being bombed with MILLIONS dead, Unless you had some kind of "Problem"

Let us set another FOV,

A japanese person laughing a Pearl Harbour or 9/11

Feelings now hayden?

Pretty shit methinks.
You should read all of my posts.
You and Type_Montana.

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Let us set another FOV,

A japanese person laughing a Pearl Harbour or 9/11

That was why i said that.
To use it as a hard example, to make people realise it, and it worked 100%
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: UberPwner on February 06, 2008, 09:13:01 pm
You should read all of my posts.
You and Type_Montana.

That was why i said that.
To use it as a hard example, to make people realise it, and it worked 100%


What posts?  many of them are deleted?


Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 06, 2008, 09:14:13 pm
This one.
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=12586.msg150488#msg150488

And none of them got deleted.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 06, 2008, 09:19:47 pm
your "lol"ing at japan did.
Where?

Just stop, your grounds for discussion have no support...
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Dogmatic on February 06, 2008, 09:48:20 pm
Huckabee and Romney might as well be out of the race, John McCain is in the lead and many people think he will win, by votes.

But with Hillary and Obama it's a even race. Hillary won the most populated states (8), like NY and LA. meaning more votes/delegates. And Obama won the most ammount of differnet states (13), not meaning more votes.

Hillary has 900 delegates and Obama has 835, idk how much is needed for someone to win, but whatever. There are still more primaries to come
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Wolfe on February 06, 2008, 10:11:55 pm
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You think what we did to Hiroshima (LMFAO THEY GOT OWNED)
enjoy
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 06, 2008, 10:37:02 pm
enjoy
Flip that around.

When they bombed us, the said
"LMFAO America got OWNED"

and....

Just stop, your grounds for discussion have no support...




Anyways, i agree 100% with shaheen, the votes being biased.
Hialry - most of her votes are from 60+ year old women, they vote, just cause she could be the 1st female president
Obama - Most of his votes are by who else? Black people, not for what his goals are, just because he could be the 1st black president.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: [GSF]Darren on February 06, 2008, 10:39:11 pm
PiMP, what do you think Japan was saying towards us, when they bombed us

Haha, your so ignorant.
Well, lets take some history here.

J. Robert Oppenheimer, he was an American theoretical physicist, not Brazilian, not Portuguese.
He was the creator of the first Atomic Bomb.


Is the atomic bomb not based on the fact that Einstein, a swede, came up with the theory that an atom could be split, resulting in a huge surge of explosive power?





What im saying is, i fear that if clinton gets elected, and someone attacks us, lets say Al Qaeda forces attack US with a bomb, i fear that she will want to do nothing in countermeasures.


One, Hillary will not pick a fight with someone who can't be defeated. I say this as Al Qaeda remind me a lot of the IRA, only worse. You can't defeat them, as you don't know who they are.
Two, even if she did who would she attack? Al Qaeda isnt a country.
Three, you underestimate Hillary as she is a woman. There are a lot of strong women. History has shown us that. I.e. St. Joan of Arc. A woman, who lead the french admirably.

Hayden, you have to realise that you are an american. As such, you will naturally be biased against people you see as threats to your nation. It is natural.
Im not flaming, but could you please step outside of the box and look in as a neutral man?

Lets think about this. Act completely ignorant about the war.
Now if i told you that a man started a war with a country without any proof that they were a genuine threat, and there is a possibility he was abusing there oil supplies what would you say?

In spite of this i agree with Obamas health care plan, which is the main thing i would worry about as an American. Vote Obama.

 :ps: In an interrogation before he died, Saddam Hussein said he only pretended to have WMDs to stop Iran from invading Iraq, and did not believe that the USA would act upon it.
It is not all americas fault, however; Tony Blair is as much to blame as Bush. Aleader, no a man needs to be able to say no and look out for the interests of others
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: schfifty on February 07, 2008, 01:20:57 am
Ok guys, when I posted this, all I wanted was to know the opinion on who they wanted as a candidate, not why we bombed japan or how americans are gung ho to kill people. Can we stay on the topic that I created, you guys can go create an Atomic Bomb topic if you want but keep it out of here  ;) It is getting too out of hand and people are starting to turn on each other like tires on a car. BTW just to clear things up, the atomic bombs only killed like 200,000 people (learned in history today) however only 200 were left in the cities. I think thats correct. Disregard the last comment...it was off topic...
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Abraham on February 07, 2008, 05:13:10 am
Ron Paul for world dictator.   :redface:
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: schfifty on February 07, 2008, 06:04:57 am
Way to break the ice Abe lol
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: UberPwner on February 07, 2008, 10:02:49 am
Im voting Obama if i was USA'an,


Whi?

Cuz he is teh bestest then that BITCH Hillary

 kthxbai
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Aragorn on February 07, 2008, 10:20:52 am
When they bombed us, the said
"LMFAO America got OWNED"

Did you hear that? Hardly... Then why you write words to all nation? Who the hell are you?

About bomb you proud? That the first who made a bomb - were americans?
The whole world is shamed of it... The whole world was shamed of American/Russian weapons races who will make powerful and a lot...

And only americans are proud... Proud of what? that the Earth has enough weapons to be destroyed???
This is what I do not like in americans... They do not think what they do... They wanna power all over the world and use bombs to bring their "democracy"... They turned around the meaning of "democracy"...

Europe is a democracy... America is more dictatorship, and not at home only but outside their boards...

Russians made a bomb after americans in an order from government... As soon as russian government knew about nuclear bomb USA made, in two weeks russians made the same... Right now America made a new bomb generation... And called it "The mother of all bombs"... After 1 month Russia presented their new bomb, and americans were so impressed of huge destroyable features that called it "The father of all bombs"...

But will you see any russian that is proud of it? no... Russians did not like that america involved others in this nuclear races... Russians do not like their own bombs production as well...

But many countries are really thankful to Russia, that they do not give the nuclear technologies to all the world... Cos in choice:

* America plays teh God, cos Russia do not get involved in it and does not give technologies out to american enemies
* Russia gives technologies to other countries (Middle east, Asia) to shut up America

The world in peace - that is important... And Americans should understand that.... Otherwise - America will be the reason of total humanity destruction...

========

I wrote this all to you Hayden to stop thinking America leads the world... America leads it as far as big bosses allow it... And do not be proud that your country destroyed two cities... I do not think you will like a maniac psycho who will kill your parents and sisters/brothers... And hardly you will be proud of that maniac...

Never be proud of wars... cos every war - a shame... Ill minded intellects...
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Rodriguez on February 07, 2008, 10:33:49 am
^ Word.

About iraqi war. I am totally against what bush did, because of him, i will have a nice visit in the desert next year too. ( Dutch Marines, yes.. )
Though, not to take away the respect i have for all soldiers of all countries who are there, the people who are made to go there, fighting for the people next to them, while there is no apperent reason ( to me ) to fight there.. Only thing that happens = More casualties every day. More hate towards western communities everyday, and the other way around.

In the time i came to holland, no problem, spanish are not much hated here. Look now.. 80% of Foreign community is against Dutch people in HOLLAND for christ sake. People get hated in their OWN country. As for me, i can speak of patriottism more for Holland, then for the foreigners, as i have grown into the community because i wanted to. There is so much sh*t going on here - nowhere is paradise anymore, we ruin this planet.
(Dutch members of Argonath probably recognize this)

(Sorry for parts offtopic)
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Shifter on February 07, 2008, 11:16:45 am
In the time i came to holland, no problem, spanish are not much hated here. Look now.. 80% of Foreign community is against Dutch people in HOLLAND for christ sake. People get hated in their OWN country. As for me, i can speak of patriottism more for Holland, then for the foreigners, as i have grown into the community because i wanted to. There is so much sh*t going on here - nowhere is paradise anymore, we ruin this planet.
My goodness, I knew it was bad over there but 80%???? That is crazy.......
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Rodriguez on February 07, 2008, 11:19:32 am
My goodness, I knew it was bad over there but 80%???? That is crazy.......

Note that i said 80% of the FOREIGN community, there are about 3 million non-dutch, and 14 million dutch people. still its alot.
But yea, there are alot who are not willing to blend into the community, and only to make trouble for themselves, mostly starting from ages as 12 years old. Most above 40 Years make no problems.

Most of them use as excuse: "Dutch discriminate us, bla bla bla" Oh, then tell me why Moluks ( Dunno how to write it, its at Indonesia ) didn't get discriminated? Because they came here for a purpose, they were offered work, and were willing to do it.. What you see from the "Rebellish" is that they only live from Child support and some money you get when your not "Able" to work. Don't know how to say that in English. Plus, the kids make problems like hell. Go look at the latest "School murders/attacks". Always between Turkish/Morrocans, go check the news " 15 Year old kid stabbed with a knife at school for fighting over a girl". This has happened about 3 times last month.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Gandalf on February 07, 2008, 12:46:46 pm
Rodriguez you might want to read back some history like I have done after I arrived here.
In the 1950's people were having problems with the 'peanuts' who came from the West-Indies, former colonies. Later they would call out the 'lazy' Surinam people. The Moluks held a school and a train hostage in the 1970's. So all these groups had to go through the same integration process, and had some trouble doing it.

Thing is the first generation knows why they came to Holland. To work in jobs that were available and get a better life for their children. Their children already have some trouble. They know their home country, but can not live there any more. But as they were born in their home country and partly raised there, they understand and accept the home culture. The third generation gets in to a mess. There were born here, and educated here. At home their parents and grandparents try to teach them a culture they do not understand. Outside they are not accepted as locals but seen as foreigners. The values of their parents are not theirs. The local people see them as outsider. So they have nobody to turn to. Some solve this by sticking together and forming gangs. Others run to religion. Fortunately a large group copes with it and will overcome the negative image in time.

As it is a numbers game, we hear about it now more than it was in the news 20, 30, 40 or 50 years ago. But it is of all times, and the same problems are in all countries where people emigrate to. America has the Mexicans, Moscow has Ukrainians, England has Pakistani and Indians. The problems are similar, the reactions are similar.

If we do think less of people who are doing the simple and dirty jobs, or who do not speak our language perfectly, it will happen again. People are equal, they all have their talents, their culture and values. It does not matter if they are rich or poor, intelligent or stupid. They all deserve the same respect and to be treated as people.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Rodriguez on February 07, 2008, 01:03:24 pm
But most of them call it over themselves. Like..
Did you have problems with the community when you came to Holland? I didn't...
I went to school, i learned Dutch, my mom Learned Dutch, my mom went working in the management of a factory, my dad working at BMW.
Now, i work at BMW Den Haag, finishing my HAVO. Going to the Navy at the end of the year.
Unlike the other Majority i see here in Den Haag.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: PMP on February 07, 2008, 01:10:32 pm
It's true what rodriguez is saying. If you want to be threated like natives, you have to blend with them.
Not getting on ghettos with others of your kind.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Rodriguez on February 07, 2008, 09:20:11 pm
Anyway, Obama won't win.
America has too much powerfull people in the south who will stick their hands in it, and i am not racist, but they are.. And they will make sure America isn't being lead by an Afro-American.. It's all about the $. :)
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Jserg on February 07, 2008, 09:23:57 pm
*JSerg is praying for Aliens to come and kill all of us :D
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: PMP on February 07, 2008, 09:39:59 pm
Anyway, Obama won't win.
America has too much powerfull people in the south who will stick their hands in it, and i am not racist, but they are.. And they will make sure America isn't being lead by an Afro-American.. It's all about the $. :)
yeah, the KKK
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: schfifty on February 07, 2008, 11:25:27 pm
Well no offense to any one...but I am a little scared of Obama being elected as he was raised in an Islam environment and was sworn in as senator using a Quaran not a Bible which is traditional. I don't think he would islamize the nation or anything but I am scared that some crazy guy will come in and kill 10 days into his first term. Again I have nothing against Islamic people...just crazy ones.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Wolfe on February 07, 2008, 11:51:18 pm
lol everibody in world after 9/11 now thinks all islamics are terrorists...
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Aragorn on February 08, 2008, 12:26:08 am
lol everibody in world after 9/11 now thinks all islamics are terrorists...

On professional secret service language 9/11 was NOT a terrorist act... It was a professional diversion...
Which means it was done by special force (service)...
Not by "akhmeds" "location location location"...
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: PMP on February 08, 2008, 12:29:39 am
Ever seen "Loose change" guys, it's awesome...
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: schfifty on February 08, 2008, 01:20:08 am
lol everibody in world after 9/11 now thinks all islamics are terrorists...

Well they themselves aren't helping by blowing up themselves and therefore causing the media to go hysterical every other day. But, not all Muslims are terrorists   ;)
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: BlackBird on February 08, 2008, 01:24:07 am
9/11 was a poor excuse to blame the iraquis and others for something it has been proven they didnt do, Bush clearly knew it was gonan happen and chose to do nothing about it, Then he used the excuse to invade iraq and afghanistan to take over there oil supply.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: PMP on February 08, 2008, 01:25:49 am
9/11 was a poor excuse to blame the iraquis and others for something it has been proven they didnt do, Bush clearly knew it was gonan happen and chose to do nothing about it, Then he used the excuse to invade iraq and afghanistan to take over there oil supply.

It was planed by americans themselfs. "Loose change"
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 08, 2008, 01:33:27 am
9/11 was a poor excuse to blame the iraquis and others for something it has been proven they didnt do, Bush clearly knew it was gonan happen and chose to do nothing about it, Then he used the excuse to invade iraq and afghanistan to take over there oil supply.
It was planed by americans themselfs. "Loose change"
See you guys in 5 months when you still posting about this :D

This type of discussion - Lies, Blasphemy, coverup's - will never end.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: moneris0 on February 08, 2008, 01:39:12 am
You know what the world needs?

Weed

Why?

in AMsterdam  it has great people, you hear everybody talking in store lineups :O

My brother went there and he made 5 freinds in a day -.0

so if the world had weed legalized, the masters of the countries will be sitting around passing around the spliff


well thats my thought  ;)
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 08, 2008, 02:33:31 am
Thats 100% right man.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Shifter on February 08, 2008, 06:32:29 am
You know what the world needs?

Weed

Why?

in AMsterdam  it has great people, you hear everybody talking in store lineups :O

My brother went there and he made 5 freinds in a day -.0

so if the world had weed legalized, the masters of the countries will be sitting around passing around the spliff


well thats my thought  ;)
Then watch the cancer rate soar
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: MrEcks on February 08, 2008, 06:48:22 am
It was planed by americans themselfs. "Loose change"

Wait a second... I'm an American and if I planned this than where is my free oil!?
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: schfifty on February 08, 2008, 06:55:10 am
I don't understand why people think that we did this to ourselves...do you guys not realize that the Taliban claimed the attack? Do you not realize that 9/11 was a serious matter and that no one in their right mind would plan 3000 deaths? I dont understand why people can say it was a cover up so we could get oil. The whole world knew 9/11 was serious when it happened, but now every thinks it's a joke...seriously, are 3000 deaths funny to you?
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 08, 2008, 06:59:50 am
I don't understand why people think that we did this to ourselves...do you guys not realize that the Taliban claimed the attack? Do you not realize that 9/11 was a serious matter and that no one in their right mind would plan 3000 deaths? I dont understand why people can say it was a cover up so we could get oil. The whole world knew 9/11 was serious when it happened, but now every thinks it's a joke...seriously, are 3000 deaths funny to you?
If they had no right, or reason to die - no.

If they deserve to die (I.E Terrorists, pedophiles, Rapists, etc.) - yes.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: schfifty on February 08, 2008, 07:04:29 am
I am talking about the New York victims...not the Terrorist ones...by "No1 in there right mind could plan 3000 deaths" I mean that no ally of america aka President or American Government
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: UberPwner on February 08, 2008, 09:46:44 am
On professional secret service language 9/11 was NOT a terrorist act... It was a professional diversion...
Which means it was done by special force (service)...
Not by "akhmeds" "location location location"...

sorry, but i have to LOL at that,

he must of seen jeff dunham too :D


People make up the stupidest things

For example,
a website was created blaming the JEWs for 9/11...


i mean...  :neutral:
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Rodriguez on February 08, 2008, 10:01:03 am
You know what the world needs?

Weed

Why?

in AMsterdam  it has great people, you hear everybody talking in store lineups :O

My brother went there and he made 5 freinds in a day -.0

so if the world had weed legalized, the masters of the countries will be sitting around passing around the spliff


well thats my thought  ;)

Amsterdam people are no different from others in Holland.. That's kind of stereotyping...
Besides, Den Haag ( Where i live ) is biggest rival of Amsterdam in all.  :cool: Especially football hooligans, So i do not like Amsterdam.
( By the way, you can buy weed everywhere here, not only in Amsterdam. Weed comes from the countrysides, just like the XTC etc. )
Anyway, what makes you think all Dutch community smokes weed all day?..
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Radagast on February 08, 2008, 10:08:38 am
Chuck Norris can't be president? That's a shame! :(
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Aragorn on February 08, 2008, 11:13:03 am
I don't understand why people think that we did this to ourselves...

Cos some people on forum know very good what are politics and what suppose to do the special forces of countries...

If it could be terrorist attack - there should be more then one...
You ever thought that to bring down American economy HAVING SUCH pilots - Islamic terrorists or whatever terrorists could do it everyday... Just make one attack from all "friendly to America" countries...

No man... That was a diversion made by special forces... To see which forces you can check up the following events...

Why America?
Well... Only America makes its "patriotic" feelings on having enemies... Only America needs an enemy to be alive...

BTW why you think that Osama Bin Laden exists? Maybe its an actor who needs to be "real" to give America more "reasons" to invade other countries...

For many special security forces to trace and kill one man - nothing... America has problems...
So just to think: if America cannot kill one man, why America thinks it can own all the world?

 :ps: Sorry for off-topic... Could not pass the comments...  :( Tips I gave - so I stop off-top...  :redface:
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Watti on February 08, 2008, 03:56:55 pm
ok here is some facts
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Gandalf on February 08, 2008, 04:14:26 pm
I am talking about the New York victims...not the Terrorist ones...by "No1 in there right mind could plan 3000 deaths" I mean that no ally of america aka President or American Government
Any president that says OK for an air strike plans 3000 deaths. When the US committed to go to Iraq they planned 3000 deaths. Only difference is that it is not usual to admit planning to kill your own citizens.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 08, 2008, 07:36:37 pm
Cos some people on forum know very good what are politics and what suppose to do the special forces of countries...

If it could be terrorist attack - there should be more then one...
You ever thought that to bring down American economy HAVING SUCH pilots - Islamic terrorists or whatever terrorists could do it everyday... Just make one attack from all "friendly to America" countries...

No man... That was a diversion made by special forces... To see which forces you can check up the following events...

Why America?
Well... Only America makes its "patriotic" feelings on having enemies... Only America needs an enemy to be alive...

BTW why you think that Osama Bin Laden exists? Maybe its an actor who needs to be "real" to give America more "reasons" to invade other countries...

For many special security forces to trace and kill one man - nothing... America has problems...
So just to think: if America cannot kill one man, why America thinks it can own all the world?
So you are saying that America did this, just for laughs or just to 'test

If i had said somthing bad, or even somthing at all about 'mother' Russia - you would get pissed, and probably ban me.... wouldent you.

Anyways, i wouldent care, and i still dont care what you say about America, because who says you are right?
Have you seen this 'actor'? - then how would you know he is real or some 'actor'

Special Forces? What are you on and on about some damn special forces, coming to attack their own country, and killing over 3000 people?
Do you think Russia would bomb their own country, just for laughs? 'That was a diversion made by special force' - just for that? get out...

Quote
You ever thought that to bring down American economy HAVING SUCH pilots - Islamic terrorists or whatever terrorists could do it everyday... Just make one attack from all "friendly to America" countries...
Thats very true.
And vice Versa with every other country.

But, that wouldent happen, cause it will result in World War III - then to nuclear war - then after that war, because some people act like children and want to shoot nuclear bombs off - they sucessfully wipe the human race from this planet.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: schfifty on February 08, 2008, 11:53:36 pm
Everyone thinks America is the bad guy...you think we like going to war? We only went to war because Saddam was doing it to his own citizens. Sure, we claimed they had WMD's and there weren't. But hey, I would rather have Saddam not in power now than in power and still killing innocent people. (He tested weapons on his own people) And we didn't PLAN 3000 deaths in Iraq...we didn't want any but sometimes people do have to die. If you don't agree with that look at Hitler, millions of deaths happened because of one man. Hitler. Saddam was the middle east version of him. We didn't want those deaths, so I don't think its fair to blame it all on our "stupid government". People just like to blame everything on us because we are so easily blamed upon. I am not trying to flame anyone here but I am just speaking my mind.

BTW, WWIII will be over in like 15 minutes because of nuclear attack...AKA We are all going to die lol
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Alsatian on February 09, 2008, 12:04:14 am
Everyone thinks America is the bad guy...you think we like going to war? We only went to war because Saddam was doing it to his own citizens. Sure, we claimed they had WMD's and there weren't. But hey, I would rather have Saddam not in power now than in power and still killing innocent people. (He tested weapons on his own people) And we didn't PLAN 3000 deaths in Iraq...we didn't want any but sometimes people do have to die. If you don't agree with that look at Hitler, millions of deaths happened because of one man. Hitler. Saddam was the middle east version of him. We didn't want those deaths, so I don't think its fair to blame it all on our "stupid government". People just like to blame everything on us because we are so easily blamed upon. I am not trying to flame anyone here but I am just speaking my mind.

BTW, WWIII will be over in like 15 minutes because of nuclear attack...AKA We are all going to die lol
if ether a world war III, the worlds doomed  :(
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: [GSF]Darren on February 09, 2008, 12:06:01 am
you cant compare saddam to hitler dude...
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: schfifty on February 09, 2008, 12:07:40 am
Why not? I agree that Hitler was way worse, but Saddam created a genocide too!
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Gandalf on February 09, 2008, 12:13:44 am
Lets make it clear that there is a very big difference between what we think of America as country and Americans as people.

As country, America wants to be the most powerful. What was the problem in Iraq ? Oil. Things in Saudia are not much better (women who are raped get convicted a death penalty) but they are friends, so nobody cares. Every country in the Middle East was happy to see Saddam go, including Iran. But what they do not like is that there can be no government without the influence of American politics.
Do you believe people in Iran all follow the Ayatollahs ? No way, but they accept it as the alternative is having America telling what they should do.

Americans are great people, and I like most of them. however they are brought up to see everything as good or bad, black or white. Check any movie, story, music clip. It is always us vs them. That means that the worst thing for Americans is not to have a collective enemy that threatens their country.

For 50 years it was Russia, but Russia stopped playing the game. Then they came up with Iran. As Iran was not threatening enough, they made Saddam Hussain the worlds worst dictator. But after 10 years he was down to the point where it was a joke as threat. So they removed him and put in his place a guy who nobody can see or find, and who has not done anything big in the last 6 years.
Once people stop believing there is already a replacement..... North Korea, Syria and after that they will have made Russia look like a big threat again.

Communism is bad ? Where is the boycot of China.
Dictatorships are bad ? Saudi-Arabia, Egypt.
Muslims are bad ? Turkey, Pakistan.

Remember the leader of the Taliban, Mullah Omar ? He was cornered by American troops, stole a motorbike and rode in to the desert, never to be seen again. So all the spy planes and sattellites that can tell what Putin eats for breakfast could not find one guy on a motorbike in the desert.... :lol:

America will be the greatest country in the world once they stop pushing everyone to follow their ideas.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: BlackBird on February 09, 2008, 12:15:59 am
Why not? I agree that Hitler was way worse, but Saddam created a genocide too!
Yes but hitler was not always a crazy genocidal man, He was at one time a very highly intellegent, and wise man Then he came to the influence of his power and he became a corrupt leader who caused ww2

Saddam was not very wise or intellegent he was a cold hearted assf*ck who didnt care baout his country


 :ps: Gandalf i hate Amercia  :roll: i was born in London and loved it but then we ahd to move to the penis of america
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: [GSF]Darren on February 09, 2008, 12:34:11 am
ok, hitler killed 6million Jews, apparently, saddam killed 1 million kurds.
hitler started a world war that caused tens of millions of deaths. saddam.... well... didnt.
hitler stayed in his country's city until the end, even if he hid in a bomb shelter in the last few hours. saddam fled and lived in a hole.

whilst both were dictators, they both ran their country completely differently.

oh and if im not mistaken hitlers dad was his mums uncle, so he was DESTINED to be f****d up.

 :ps: i am in no way condoning or excusing hitlers actions, but i gotta say, the guy was smart. japan messed everything up on him
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: PMP on February 09, 2008, 12:38:01 am

Communism is bad ?
Dictatorships are bad ?
Muslims are bad ?

uuuhh, i want to answer those ;D

Communism is an utopia, what you have in China isn't communism since they handed farms to farmers back in the mid 80's. Why did they did that, cause it wasn't working.
China is now far from a communist country, they have McDonald's.

Dictators are IMO good cause most people dunno anything about politics and as you can see, between the right and the left parties, center ones always wins.

Muslims are bad, radical muslims are. But only as bad as the medieval time church.
They have jihad, we had cruzades, they just started a few centuries later  :neutral:
Religion is bad, it's makes wars, not love.

About Hitler. You have to admit that jews are annoying.(I don't want to offend any jew here) Allways trying to trick you to make a bad business with they. Hitler just wanted their richnesses to finance war.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: schfifty on February 09, 2008, 12:48:44 am
North Korea, Syria and after that they will have made Russia look like a big threat again.

Communism is bad ? Where is the boycot of China.
Dictatorships are bad ? Saudi-Arabia, Egypt.
Muslims are bad ? Turkey, Pakistan.

America will be the greatest country in the world once they stop pushing everyone to follow their ideas.

For one, the people who believe Russia is still a threat were raised in the Cold War...back then I am sure you were just as scared of us as we were of you. I don't believe Russia is a threat ATM, we are at peace for now. Why do we think communism is bad? Well for starters, the big bird at the top of the wire cage stack is telling the other below him what to do and they are crapping all over the guy at the bottom. I understand most aren't that extreme anymore especially after the Soviet Union collapse. We don't talk to China about it because well, frankly we don't want any beef with them...I heard once we don't have enough bullets for each of them. Why not Saudi Arabia or Egypt? Because they are our premiere source of oil and we don't want beef with them!
   Muslims are not bad but it is hard for people to think that when Islamic terrorists crashed two planes into the biggest city in the country, and also the Pentagon where my cousin that was a retired Colonel of the US Army was almost killed as his office was destroyed. Luckily, he wasn't on that side of the building when it happened. We don't think muslims are bad, why do you think half the country voted for Obama in the elections? It is just going to take time to get over the fact that Muslim Terrorists were behind 9/11. I know some muslims and they are not bad people. They are just like the Japanese-Americans after the bombing of Pearl Harbor...they loved their country and their home. I read a quote from one who was interrogated...he said "When your mother and father fight, do you want them to kill each other? Or do you want them to just stop fighting?" They aren't bad but they are living in a country where they are considered bad and up to no good.
   When is the last time you saw us invade a Communist country to push Democracy on them? hmmm the 1970's? Keep in mind we were still at "War" with Russia, in other words we were trying to bring down your nation by attacking one of your allies. You did the same with Afghanistan keep in mind ;). You have to remember, Vietnam was 30 years after WWII, right after our transition from Isolationism to getting involved in world matters.
   I don't like arguing with people from a server I play on...it brings me down. So can we just agree to disagree?

Dang PMP I just realized you posted...you just ruined about everything in this post  :lol:

I have to go for now...
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: PMP on February 09, 2008, 12:51:11 am
DW you stil manage to say alot of right things that I didn't mention  ;)
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: schfifty on February 09, 2008, 12:51:52 am
Thanks ;)
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Aragorn on February 09, 2008, 12:57:21 am
   Muslims are not bad but it is hard for people to think that when Islamic terrorists crashed two planes into the biggest city in the country, and also the Pentagon

The same was in communist propaganda... Needs an enemy to raise economic and push useless papers (dollars) - make a shit and say it was muslim...
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Wolfe on February 09, 2008, 06:25:31 am
Well I really dont consider osama bin laden Islamic he says he is, but a real islamic wouldnt made what he made...
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: rJCaiG on February 09, 2008, 06:53:42 am
I live in Australia, but I think that Hilary Clinton should be president.
She'll put all americas funds into kitchens  :rofl:
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: schfifty on February 09, 2008, 07:23:33 am
Lol Giac...We might as well have Martha Stewart lol :P
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: UberPwner on February 09, 2008, 08:29:12 am
I live in Australia, but I think that Hilary Clinton should be president.
She'll put all americas funds into kitchens  :rofl:


Giac, You inhumane monster


Hillary SUCKS


Barack FTW

<3
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Jcstodds on February 09, 2008, 10:59:36 am
I live in the UK.

Im dont really care who will be next president of the USA. I think maybe Hillary I prefer most, simply because I think it will be fun to find out what happens if she was to become president, and I don't think anyone can be any more foolish than good old George. it will also give the brits a new target for comedians.

I heard Tony Blair is trying to become president of Europe, but then again, my source is dodgy, as the nations favourite newspaper has the reading age requirements of an 8 year old.

 The reality is, whoever comes to power, they will be too corrupt with greed and power to make much difference to the speed of which society is deteriorating, so it doesn't really matter. The rich will still get richer, the poor will still get poorer, and the world will still be ravaged upon by greedy oil companies.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Gandalf on February 09, 2008, 11:11:25 am
Well as said I do not hate America, but the 'do not have any beef' just shows the hypocrisy of the leaders.

It would be funny if Hilary Clinton would become president and then being kicked out for having an affair with a guy in the White House :D
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Maximus on February 09, 2008, 11:29:45 am
I still want Bush as president.

Obama & Clinton are pussies and will make America look like Pussies.
You think what we did to Hiroshima (LMFAO THEY GOT OWNED)
Will ever happen again with Hilary Clinton in the chair?

It will be like

*Japan bombs america
*America says: please, that hurt, dont do it again or ill /report ID

Well thats not even funny, and because of people like you, regular humans in iraq are called teorrists for fighting for their country.


I dont really know much about the policy in the US, but i dont want McCain to be a president. Him becoming a president will result in even more are going to be called teorrists. If Obama gets elected, im gonna stick to the theory of him being murdered, cause America is not ready for a black president. Hilary i really dont know about, maybe some countries in the middle east will hate america even more. So im really stuck with who i wish to be the King of USA.
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Maximus on February 09, 2008, 11:32:53 am
hehe, i started one again.


Yea i know i shouldent have the 'owned' part, but whatever.


"People are dieing in Iraq since US army landed there troops there." - Do you have even 1 clue, of what we are doing over there?
your answer: "Killing innocent people"



The reason i used "You think what we did to Hiroshima
Will ever happen again with Hilary Clinton in the chair?"
Is because, lets say japan bombed us back, like in Pearl harbour again.

Bush would probably bomb them back 4x harder.
Clinton & Obama - they would ask not to do it again.

Thats the reason i said that, thats how i feel about the whole sitiuation.



Niall, i understand that you think what i said was wrong, but did you ever think to what they did to us?
:ps: Watch the movie Pearl Harbor.

I'd say we got them back damn good.


I hope you get banned you american redneck.++++

I'd tell you to fuck off and die, but i wont.

You cant compare a fucking movie to reality, and thats ages ago, what would happen if german attacked france.. you make no sense. You think its all about bombing back, look where your country is now, and thats not even from bombing back, thats just for starting some dumb shit war. Dont deny that!
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: Anto on February 09, 2008, 11:36:49 am
he became a corrupt leader who caused ww2

It was not only Hitler, but Britain, America and France. After the First world war, These three countries tried to put all the blame on Germany, when it was not all their fault. They made them pay endless reparations, taxes and give all their countries treasure away in all forms, to compensate for this war, German people were sick and tired of these three countries and their shitty Versailles treaty, so they opted to take the best option at the time - Hitler.

If not for America, Britain and espiacally France trying to squeeze everything out of the German people for something that they didn't do, then all this shit wouldn't have happened, History is a lot more than 'Hitler caused WW2, he was evil' A lot more than Hitler caused WW2, it wouldn't even have began if not for the immaturity of the three countries at that time, many top American historians agree.

Anto  :)
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: CM Daniel on February 09, 2008, 01:50:32 pm
It would be funny if Hilary Clinton would become president and then being kicked out for having an affair with a guy in the White House :D

Time for a revenge on Bill :D
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: schfifty on February 10, 2008, 06:59:08 am
Well as said I do not hate America, but the 'do not have any beef' just shows the hypocrisy of the leaders.

It would be funny if Hilary Clinton would become president and then being kicked out for having an affair with a guy in the White House :D

How ironic would that be! Next thing you know she will be in front of the supreme court be questioned and being threatened for impeachment  :lol:
Title: Re: Presidential Candidates
Post by: [GSF]Darren on February 10, 2008, 11:59:51 am
i think that was unfair on ol' Bill to get dragged before the supreme court.
it just showed everyne that he was a man :)
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