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What is the destination of the community? Is it gonna be revived? Is there something cooking that would probably heal it back?
I've been inactive so I'm not aware of all what's been happening here but I heard things ve been going on quite badly, therefore excuse my questions.
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I believe the new GTA V server is what will decide the future of the community. I just hope that it's not more of the same on a different game. The developers seem to have been doing a good job from what I can see and it now rests with that server's HQ to make sure it's a breath of fresh air and not more of the same.
They'll need proper rules and a proper staff team as a foundation to build from. Sadly for SA:MP it was already too late when I got the helm with Bas. I can't speak for VC:MP and IV:MP as I've not played there in ages but the situation seems to be the same.
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IV:MP, yes. VC:MP, no.
VC:MP is doing fairly well, even though it's somewhat dead at times, when people come online and play, the situation is always perfectly fine.
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A new change should revive the server and attract players with new features to Liberty city.
We are going to change the client and head for CitizenMP:IV, where ArgonathRPG server will be introduced in, Currently the server is being created and still.
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GTA is a very old game and we all are old, jalla go out and fuck bitchies and work and have fun. Its very haram to play GTA too much
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As much as it saddens me to say this, SA:MP's future is rather clear. Having paid a visit there recently, the conclusion that at this point it's pretty much on life support by the very few players that still play it. I mean, come on. 5-10 people are nowhere close to enough for a game of scale that San Andreas is and the server feels empty, the police force is nearly non existent and it is mostly people grinding the scripted jobs and meth/crafting scripts to get money.
VC:MP is probably doing the best out of all the branches. It is currently under one of its inactivity spells which are usual for the server mid-autumn to late winter, and it picks up significant activity from early spring to early autumn, when the server usually has around 15 players playing at any given moment daily, which is a lot for the size of the map. It has only been Argonath in name for quite a while now - it's hosted on a non-Argonath server and the management seems to have been following a seperate path of ideology seperate from the rest of Argonath. Therefore, it has become quite a community of its own with dedicated players who keep the server active at all times.
Last I remember of IV:MP, when it was still on the new client, things seemed grim and that was too dying out. Not sure how is the situation there now that they have moved to Citizen:MP.
I believe that eventually GTA V will revive the community and the SAMP branch will be closed. The game is now too old, it just does not have enough of a playerbase to attract new players. VC:MP survived this death of the community because for its entire existence it more or less has the same people playing it, with very few actually new players joining, and often those new players stick around, slowly replacing those who grow out of the game and dont have time to play it anymore. It's always the same ten people playing the game, hence why its currently in a stable condition. I cannot say what the future of IVMP will be, as i've no idea how things are there now.
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Last I remember of IV:MP, when it was still on the new client, things seemed grim and that was too dying out. Not sure how is the situation there now that they have moved to Citizen:MP.
Situation is not good here at the moment. I'm hoping CitizenIV will bring back some activity. It's virtually the last chance anyway.
Maybe RedM could be a nice addition too besides FiveM.
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I don't think Argonath has a future anymore. Argonath either needs new, active ownership or just die off.
How does a company function without a leader? It doesn't. It might survive for a couple of years but eventually, it will become either stagnant or eat itself from within.
If players are interested, maybe it's time to create a new community that will have active leadership that will provide a direction. The leadership must take bold moves, but also try out new markets (games) and expand with some proper ways to support the community.
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If players are interested, maybe it's time to create a new community that will have active leadership that will provide a direction. The leadership must take bold moves, but also try out new markets (games) and expand with some proper ways to support the community.
Promoting the creation of another community in this one? Now that's a -bold move-.. makes me wonder what the later part of your message truly meant. ;)
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I don't think Argonath has a future anymore. Argonath either needs new, active ownership or just die off.
How does a company function without a leader? It doesn't. It might survive for a couple of years but eventually, it will become either stagnant or eat itself from within.
If players are interested, maybe it's time to create a new community that will have active leadership that will provide a direction. The leadership must take bold moves, but also try out new markets (games) and expand with some proper ways to support the community.
100% agreed.
If players are interested, maybe it's time to create a new community that will have active leadership that will provide a direction. The leadership must take bold moves, but also try out new markets (games) and expand with some proper ways to support the community.
Promoting the creation of another community in this one? Now that's a -bold move-.. makes me wonder what the later part of your message truly meant. ;)
Can we just not? Just for once?
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If players are interested, maybe it's time to create a new community that will have active leadership that will provide a direction. The leadership must take bold moves, but also try out new markets (games) and expand with some proper ways to support the community.
Promoting the creation of another community in this one? Now that's a -bold move-.. makes me wonder what the later part of your message truly meant. ;)
That step exactly is what Argo's based on.
Argonath RPG was founded in 2006 with a clear target.
The founders were upset with the community they left because of how people treated each other, and how there was a lack of recognition from the administration for the efforts of new players and those who were not in the favour of leaders.
There for it was decided to create a new community that would be open to all people, and where new players were treated same as regulars and veterans. With a new community this was not a problem, as everyone was new and the only veterans were the main leaders.
In other words...Argonath has become the reason people made Argonath in first place. Which I am not sure if it is bad or good...
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I don't think Argonath has a future anymore. Argonath either needs new, active ownership or just die off.
How does a company function without a leader? It doesn't. It might survive for a couple of years but eventually, it will become either stagnant or eat itself from within.
If players are interested, maybe it's time to create a new community that will have active leadership that will provide a direction. The leadership must take bold moves, but also try out new markets (games) and expand with some proper ways to support the community.
Each division kinda acts as its own community already because everyone has grown tired of inactive owners. When I was developing for SAMP I did not wait for inactive leadership to discuss features and enhancements. I only really cared to do stuff for people who still cared. The dynamic microphone feature was added primarily due to SanTV's efforts. I did not wait for the old man to give his blessing on anything. The same applies to FiveM.
I am fully aware the community can and eventually will crumble and servers will be unplugged. I don't know about other divisions but I can say that all 3 of us on the FiveM dev team are aware of this and we have other options when that happens. Everything is backed up externally. Note that this is not a message of malicious intent, remember that if Argonath suddenly goes bye bye, the Argonath NDA becomes moot because there is not Argonath.
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Gandalf is inactive, yeah, and I agree that he needs to be around but I reckon with the division leaders and the community leader, at least for now we're going onward. I honestly reckon Argonath will continue on, it has for 12 years already. :)
As for a new community, can we not have a Mudoo RPG repeat?
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If players are interested, maybe it's time to create a new community that will have active leadership that will provide a direction. The leadership must take bold moves, but also try out new markets (games) and expand with some proper ways to support the community.
Promoting the creation of another community in this one? Now that's a -bold move-.. makes me wonder what the later part of your message truly meant. ;)
Don't accuse me of shit, Mr. Zero Tolerance. I'm providing an answer to the question with a suggestion. In case you're oblivious, Argonath was built from splitting apart from another community over a conflict, as @TheGreasyChopper noted. My suggestion on creating a new community did not mean we need another Mudoo repeat but instead, I'm bringing up a valid point that with a failing leadership and lack of ownership, we're simply going to be driving this community down.
I am fully aware the community can and eventually will crumble and servers will be unplugged. I don't know about other divisions but I can say that all 3 of us on the FiveM dev team are aware of this and we have other options when that happens. Everything is backed up externally. Note that this is not a message of malicious intent, remember that if Argonath suddenly goes bye bye, the Argonath NDA becomes moot because there is not Argonath.
Thanks for bringing this point up.
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Rather than a new community, Nathan, in my opinion, a better idea is to somehow integrate more active leadership into the community, such as an assistant community leader and perhaps if possible, for Gandalf to make time to come around now and then, but if he can't, we need more active leadership. I believe that might be a better solution to creating another community. :cop:
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I don't think Argonath has a future anymore. Argonath either needs new, active ownership or just die off.
How does a company function without a leader? It doesn't. It might survive for a couple of years but eventually, it will become either stagnant or eat itself from within.
Agreed
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I don't disagree about the inactivity, but Argonath has been around for too long now, we can't just let it die. Nathan isn't wrong, but we have to keep finding ways forward and if we can, we need the Owners.
For now, in my opinion, we should keep fighting for active leadership and a prosperous future here for Argonath.
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I don't think Argonath has a future anymore. Argonath either needs new, active ownership or just die off.
Well mate, at some point you had division leader rank but you didn't do anything other than misusing your powers, I donn't know how someone can blame some other person(s) while he himself didn't do anything useful when he had rights.
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Nathan was in line for Division Leader but never had complete rights, and he didn't always misuse his powers. I can't say that Nathan is wrong in this topic, and I can't say Nathan has always done the right thing but none of us have all the time, and so I wouldn't go diverting the topic and starting to turn against Nathan, but rather trying to find viable solutions for the community.
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There's nothing unnatural here to be honest. People get older, have less free time aka people ain't 12/15yo anymore. Once your free time shrinks, you're trying to balance things in your life and set priorities. If in the process of that Argonath discouraged its members to show up IG, that's why there are no more. For the server to become active again, we need to pass on the torch to a new gen of 12yos in clients of newer multiplayer games like V:MP. Otherwise, it will always be some veterans who still care dropping by from time to time. Also, we need an active leader only to get decisions through faster or at all, not because we trying to cling to a person to carry us to peak again. What I'm nearly sure about though is the community can never peak again consisted of the same players that the last peak was consisted of.
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I don't think Argonath has a future anymore. Argonath either needs new, active ownership or just die off.
How does a company function without a leader? It doesn't. It might survive for a couple of years but eventually, it will become either stagnant or eat itself from within.
Agreed
Just because you didn't get what you wanted it doesn't mean you can be a doubleface.
Loving Argonath & being obsessed with it and then because you didn't get what you wanted turn against it. Calm it down.
I believe the new GTA V server is what will decide the future of the community. I just hope that it's not more of the same on a different game. The developers seem to have been doing a good job from what I can see and it now rests with that server's HQ to make sure it's a breath of fresh air and not more of the same.
They'll need proper rules and a proper staff team as a foundation to build from. Sadly for SA:MP it was already too late when I got the helm with Bas. I can't speak for VC:MP and IV:MP as I've not played there in ages but the situation seems to be the same.
Totally agree. V:MP is the future of Argonath. The GTA V server will last a few more years, hopefully a decade until FiveM dies.
Nathan was in line for Division Leader but never had complete rights, and he didn't always misuse his powers. I can't say that Nathan is wrong in this topic, and I can't say Nathan has always done the right thing but none of us have all the time, and so I wouldn't go diverting the topic and starting to turn against Nathan, but rather trying to find viable solutions for the community.
There's no solution to fix this community. We live in 2020, Liberty City is from 2008, Vice City is from 2002 and San Andreas is from 2004.
Argonath has been a thing since 2006. You can't just expect people to come back to Argonath for whatever reason. They grew up, most have families, most don't like such games.
as on the Nathan part, re-read this as well plz lolololol
You need to make a sticky note and affix it to your monitor that says "think before acting" "think before speaking". This applies to your actions in game as well as on the forums.
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To focus on the true relevance on this topic (yes please piss off with your derailing Stefos), Argonath could potentially have a solution or two:
- Expand our marketing
- Transparency and active leadership
- Spread the word
Nathan isn't being double-faced, he's stating facts. Yes, Argonath needs active ownership and an active leadership body too. HOW is that double-faced?
So please Stefos, either post relevant replies or just get lost because you're not helping us find ways to move forward.
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To focus on the true relevance on this topic (yes please piss off with your derailing Stefos), Argonath could potentially have a solution or two:
- Expand our marketing
- Transparency and active leadership
- Spread the word
Nathan isn't being double-faced, he's stating facts. Yes, Argonath needs active ownership and an active leadership body too. HOW is that double-faced?
So please Stefos, either post relevant replies or just get lost because you're not helping us find ways to move forward.
I'm talking about Jones3106 being double-faced, not Nathan - don't squeeze in situations that don't even include you.
Also I mentioned that Argonath cannot be revived until V:MP is a thing - so if that's irrelevant then I do not know what is.
And why me get lost? You act like you care even though you're inactive, you don't even know what's going on.
We don't need active ownership. We need active EMS and SAFD ownership - that will start actual roleplay and start increasing the playerbase at least even a bit.
And again, read this.
You need to make a sticky note and affix it to your monitor that says "think before acting" "think before speaking". This applies to your actions in game as well as on the forums.
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This topic seemed to lead to somewhat of a debate. From my viewpoint, FiveM VMP is the future of Argonath since it will be the newest game we have in our community and many many possibilities are possible with this, I'm quite excited to continue working on it. We are on a tipping point since we relied on the same games for years, hopefully FiveM changes that.
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This topic seemed to lead to somewhat of a debate. From my viewpoint, FiveM VMP is the future of Argonath since it will be the newest game we have in our community and many many possibilities are possible with this, I'm quite excited to continue working on it. We are on a tipping point since we relied on the same games for years, hopefully FiveM changes that.
Very excited for V:MP as well. Will bring in some fresh new blood if launched properly!
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Related to the topic, I agree that if anything - FiveM is what can save argonath, and those who try to shame Nathan for misusing power and what not, he had very positive input no matter of the outcome - instead of shitting, he did stuff, so please, respect that.
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To focus on the true relevance on this topic (yes please piss off with your derailing Stefos), Argonath could potentially have a solution or two:
- Expand our marketing
- Transparency and active leadership
- Spread the word
Nathan isn't being double-faced, he's stating facts. Yes, Argonath needs active ownership and an active leadership body too. HOW is that double-faced?
So please Stefos, either post relevant replies or just get lost because you're not helping us find ways to move forward.
I'm talking about Jones3106 being double-faced, not Nathan - don't squeeze in situations that don't even include you.
Also I mentioned that Argonath cannot be revived until V:MP is a thing - so if that's irrelevant then I do not know what is.
And why me get lost? You act like you care even though you're inactive, you don't even know what's going on.
We don't need active ownership. We need active EMS and SAFD ownership - that will start actual roleplay and the playerbase at least even a bit.
And again, read this.
You need to make a sticky note and affix it to your monitor that says "think before acting" "think before speaking". This applies to your actions in game as well as on the forums.
You firstly should quit talking out of your ass about the FD and EMS, seeing as EMS is closed since we're reforming it while Nylez and I are rather active as FD and others have exams or are busy with life yet have stated they'll be back soon.
As for the double-face, my apologies, but due to your quote in its entirety it seemed as if you were going at Nathan out of nowhere.
As for getting lost, I'm not inactive, I'm just a little LESS active. There's a difference. You bringing quotes from others out of nowhere is just plain idiotic as well as the fact you look like a troll who wishes to derail the topic with your remarks:
as on the Nathan part, re-read this as well plz lolololol
Regardless of that, let's just get off this topic and back to whats relevant :)
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Now that Argonath is no longer Argonath 'RPG', how about expanding the community to different games as well that do not involve RP.
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We're still Argonath RPG but yes, that could be a solution!
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Now that Argonath is no longer Argonath 'RPG', how about expanding the community to different games as well that do not involve RP.
We've tried that with Paruni, CS 1.6, TF2, Mafia 2, Minecraft, SWAT 4, ...
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Now that Argonath is no longer Argonath 'RPG', how about expanding the community to different games as well that do not involve RP.
We've tried that with Paruni, CS 1.6, TF2, Mafia 2, Minecraft, SWAT 4, ...
Those games are as old as the other games with dying servers here.
How about trying that again, but with more popular
mainstream titles. The ones that top steam charts like CS:GO, Rainbow Six Siege, DotA 2, Overwatch, Pubg, Fortnite and whatnot. (idk how many of these support group system)
Re-Make The Social Club Crew and The Steam Group with more active leaders. Some decent players from Argonath in the competitive games might be enough to attract attention.
Besides, games like CSGO support dedicated servers with custom gamemodes. Argonath surely can implement such servers.
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Now that Argonath is no longer Argonath 'RPG', how about expanding the community to different games as well that do not involve RP.
I don't think we we're ever limited to the 'RPG' side of Argo, but I am interested in experimenting with different games and different gamemodes. Maybe we can create some kind of 'taskforce' to do these kinds of things?
In other words...Argonath has become the reason people made Argonath in first place. Which I am not sure if it is bad or good...
Good one
You need to make a sticky note and affix it to your monitor that says "think before acting" "think before speaking". This applies to your actions in game as well as on the forums.
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we can get more players in the server if we stick to comparatively newer games likes redm or fivem, or any other new games for that matter. possibilities are endless, its only a matter of choice.
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Argonath either needs new, active ownership or just die off.
How does a company function without a leader? It doesn't. It might survive for a couple of years but eventually, it will become either stagnant or eat itself from within.
If players are interested, maybe it's time to create a new community that will have active leadership that will provide a direction. The leadership must take bold moves, but also try out new markets (games) and expand with some proper ways to support the community.
Do not mess with professionals.
Oh, come on Nathan! we already have a VERY ACTIVE leader who login ONCE a year to say "we are professionals" :rofl: :rofl:
Just kidding !
yes indeed we need new active leaders who cares about the community! not someone who only pays the hosting fees and login once a year (anyone can do that u_u)
for those who keep blaming gta sa ("samp is an old game, its 18yo game, the game is dying, blah blah blah )
I would love to remind you that others RP servers regularly reach daily (+50 players) (i can prove that with SS in private )
Just ask urself why they play on other RP servers and don't play on argo one?
took the SS ATM(while writing this post)
(https://i.imgur.com/Jujw5fs.png)
I have no idea about VCMP , so not gonna talk about it
The only hope that I can see for Argonath is IVMP and specially VMP
I think VMP Scripters are doing a great job, we just need to wait for them
about IVMP, moving to CitizenIV client is good move , since the GUIs there are smooth and better also new maps and mods can be added
but that's not enough to revive it, IVMP need a solid advertisement team and new scripts.
3 or 4 sticky notes are needed or even more :")
You need to make a sticky note and affix it to your monitor that says "think before acting" "think before speaking". This applies to your actions in game as well as on the forums.
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Just FYI. http://www.mauzen.org/samp/
The servers that have 50 players now had 200-300 before and think their server's dead because of its current playerbase. ;)
Unless you're talking about Mudoo (in which you are), it has what we had in our garbage cans. Don't compare a dm server that stole players with a RP server svp.
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Just FYI. http://www.mauzen.org/samp/
The servers that have 50 players now had 200-300 before and think their server's dead because of its current playerbase. ;)
Unless you're talking about Mudoo (in which you are), it has what we had in our garbage cans. Don't compare a dm server that stole players with a RP server svp.
Playerbase=/=Activity
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Now that Argonath is no longer Argonath 'RPG', how about expanding the community to different games as well that do not involve RP.
We've tried that with Paruni, CS 1.6, ...
(https://i.imgur.com/L5u5GYW.jpg)
I am a living witness of Paruni's CS 1.6 prime time due to it being the very first community I've joined and in fact, I've found out about Argonath along with tons of other veterans from Paruni itself. Actually I pretty much can remember myself firstly expressing my interest in English language at the age of 13 since I could not even catch a word other than 'hi all' or "fkng wallhacker" that everyone kept spamming in-game. Additionally, not to mention that the server was constantly and entirely FULL of players that you had to wait in queue for even an hour to be able to join, and yes, not even kidding about this one; a freaking hour. Ah.. glorious days.
I don't want to make a drama here but do not for a second think that Paruni always was Monte's playground. It has been equally if not more active than Argonath RPG during 2008-2011. It just kept sinking and sinking due to lack of appropriate management and as far as I am concerned, funds for hosts.
So yeah Doggi, scratch that off your list. Paruni's CS 1.6 during Indigo was a privilege, and my whole childhood. :gand:
@Indigo one in a million chances you fella are seeing this, I hope life is treating you most kindly :cop:
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As for Paruni, we've had like Charles said CS1.6, BF3, CS:GO and many more and all of them have had decent activity because the games at that time were actually popular, try to open a server on the same games now and you will find it pretty hard to hit 1 player. Unfortunately gaming communities are starting to suffer now because of the hardships of creating multiplayer mods due to legal reasons which make big companies dominate and milk more money from players.
Just FYI. http://www.mauzen.org/samp/
The servers that have 50 players now had 200-300 before and think their server's dead because of its current playerbase. ;)
Unless you're talking about Mudoo (in which you are), it has what we had in our garbage cans. Don't compare a dm server that stole players with a RP server svp.
Playerbase=/=Activity
Sherlock.
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Unfortunately gaming communities are starting to suffer now because of the hardships of creating multiplayer mods due to legal reasons which make big companies dominate and milk more money from players.
What legal reasons exactly? IDK about BF3, but Counter Strike dev team has supported custom game-modes ever since the beginning of the steam workshop. In fact, they ignore illegal plugins implemented on servers, the plugins which allows players to have cosmetic items worth thousand of dollars while they're in the server.
The older Counter Strike games are alive only because the 'community' hosts them, not the devs to farm money.
As for Paruni, we've had like Charles said CS1.6, BF3, CS:GO and many more and all of them have had decent activity because the games at that time were actually popular, try to open a server on the same games now and you will find it pretty hard to hit 1 player.
I really don't think it would be hard to hit '1' player in a game like CS:GO, a game which peaks 700k+ daily, majority of which comes from EU.
Its really not difficult to attract players there, just need to host demanding gamemodes like re-takes or 1v1 servers.
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Unfortunately gaming communities are starting to suffer now because of the hardships of creating multiplayer mods due to legal reasons which make big companies dominate and milk more money from players.
What legal reasons exactly? IDK about BF3, but Counter Strike dev team has supported custom game-modes ever since the beginning of the steam workshop. In fact, they ignore illegal plugins implemented on servers, the plugins which allows players to have cosmetic items worth thousand of dollars while they're in the server.
The older Counter Strike games are alive only because the 'community' hosts them, not the devs to farm money.
As for Paruni, we've had like Charles said CS1.6, BF3, CS:GO and many more and all of them have had decent activity because the games at that time were actually popular, try to open a server on the same games now and you will find it pretty hard to hit 1 player.
I really don't think it would be hard to hit '1' player in a game like CS:GO, a game which peaks 700k+ daily, majority of which comes from EU.
Its really not difficult to attract players there, just need to host demanding gamemodes like re-takes or 1v1 servers.
CSGO's true identity is a competitive faction, not a public or DM one.
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I never liked samp dm servers, but if someone decides to open a cs server, I can guarantee the success.
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As for Paruni, we've had like Charles said CS1.6, BF3, CS:GO and many more and all of them have had decent activity because the games at that time were actually popular, try to open a server on the same games now and you will find it pretty hard to hit 1 player.
Argonath never hosted a CSGO server, even if there was, there would be plenty of players playing in the server. The one I can't agree with your post is that you have mentioned CSGO in the inactive list too. Do you know how many players login and play once a day? I bet you don't know, go and check it out. CS:GO is still rocking out there.
Consider we are hosting a server in CS:GO now, we could possibly reach at least 5-6 players or even more. It's not that hard to reach 1 player in a popular game, hm?
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As for Paruni, we've had like Charles said CS1.6, BF3, CS:GO and many more and all of them have had decent activity because the games at that time were actually popular, try to open a server on the same games now and you will find it pretty hard to hit 1 player.
Argonath never hosted a CSGO server, even if there was, there would be plenty of players playing in the server. The one I can't agree with your post is that you have mentioned CSGO in the inactive list too. Do you know how many players login and play once a day? I bet you don't know, go and check it out. CS:GO is still rocking out there.
Consider we are hosting a server in CS:GO now, we could possibly reach at least 5-6 players or even more. It's not that hard to reach 1 player in a popular game, hm?
It wasn't an "inactive" list, it was an actual list of servers that Paruni has opened before.
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Paruni didn't host a CSGO server afaik.
EDIT: Opening up a CSGO server will be awesome. I can contribute some help to the server.
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EDIT: Opening up a CSGO server will be awesome. I can contribute some help to the server.
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That’s great bro what do you think you can contribute?
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As for Paruni, we've had like Charles said CS1.6, BF3, CS:GO and many more and all of them have had decent activity because the games at that time were actually popular, try to open a server on the same games now and you will find it pretty hard to hit 1 player.
Argonath never hosted a CSGO server, even if there was, there would be plenty of players playing in the server. The one I can't agree with your post is that you have mentioned CSGO in the inactive list too. Do you know how many players login and play once a day? I bet you don't know, go and check it out. CS:GO is still rocking out there.
Consider we are hosting a server in CS:GO now, we could possibly reach at least 5-6 players or even more. It's not that hard to reach 1 player in a popular game, hm?
lol csgo somewhat aint rocking. it has 700,000 players ONLINE. It takes 5 minutes to get into a competitive game though with only 2000 people searching. However, I'd enjoy an Argonath CS:GO server. Combat Surf, 1v1 arenas, Jailbreak, etc.
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Is there argo gta 5 on xbox? If so, can someone show me how to join
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Is there argo gta 5 on xbox? If so, can someone show me how to join
Consoles don't support the multiplayer mods like FiveM and RageMP. There was a crew on social club long ago but I don't know if it still exists.
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What would make a CS:GO server of our own interesting among literally hundreds (if not thousands) of others? I never played that game but I spent thousands of hours on the good ol' cs_assault_upc on CS 1.5. (Even older than 1.6)
Most of you wouldn't know this map, but this map was more popular than dust2 in my country, literally spent my hole childhood on LAN parties playing this map till I was obsessed with it. Now I am doing console.
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What would make a CS:GO server of our own interesting among literally hundreds (if not thousands) of others?
What made any of the Argonath servers interesting among hundreds? The same could've been said for SAMP. The same can be said for FiveM
If given a good start, it may have the same chance of success as FiveM, if not more.
There was a crew on social club long ago but I don't know if it still exists.
It does exist, but quite dead.
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Piracy is not allowed - Forum mod.
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Is CS:GO really the salvation for This community tho
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Is CS:GO really the salvation for This community tho
Not exclusively but what other games do you think can push the community forward other than FiveM?
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Argonath RPG. Role Playing Game. How the hell are you going to roleplay in Counter Strike or Battlefield?
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:)
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We can make multiple clans in clash of clans aswell, if someone plays it tho.
And If i get permission I'll make a clan and will advertise this community..
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Argonath RPG. Role Playing Game. How the hell are you going to roleplay in Counter Strike or Battlefield?
We had a minecraft server where roleplay happened but it wasn't really a roleplay server. Technically Role playing game could be applied to many things. Technically in Counter Strike you roleplay as a solider who needs to kill the enemy. I feel like the RPG in the name doesn't limit us from doing other things.
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Paruni didn't host a CSGO server afaik.
There was a Paruni CSGO DM server up and running I believe in 2016. It was ran by Indigo and Gakgoss. However, it didn't last very long despite hitting a decent amount of players occasionally.
CSGO is definitely not the salvation of this community, Emmett. It's rather late for CSGO. And again.. like I've mentioned earlier, CSGO's money in the bank is a competitive five on five feature, DEFINITELY not public or DM.
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It's hard to say what the future is. Who knew that San Andreas was going to garner the following it did for the length of time?
Like Charles, I remember the Paruni CS:GO server being probably more popular than the SA:MP server on a fairly regular basis. The whole community kinda dropped off with inactivity over a prolonged length of time.
To be exactly as it was, on Argonath, games like GTA V offer a better opportunity - but the "official" client being offered limits the chance of a third party developer being successful... If we're following the same pattern as GTA SA, then a successful platform would take a single player game and make it MP with free-roam possibility. This suggests games like "Just Cause 3" etc as potential candidates.
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To be exactly as it was, on Argonath, games like GTA V offer a better opportunity - but the "official" client being offered limits the chance of a third party developer being successful... If we're following the same pattern as GTA SA, then a successful platform would take a single player game and make it MP with free-roam possibility. This suggests games like "Just Cause 3" etc as potential candidates.
I see where you are coming from but I have to disagree about how it limits the chances for a third party developer being successful. I think people play GTA Online and FiveM for different reasons. FiveM has a healthy amount of players playing it, of course not as much as GTA Online but enough for a server to be successful.
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With the return of GTA V:MP I'm pursuing some ways to bring some fun RP back into the community. Both on a small scale, interacting with players in funny ways, and also looking to create RP events and competitive events on a larger scale.
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Most people who'd even be into GTA or game overall (insert version) RPG have grown up. It's all about instant gratification LE Fortnite now for the new blood courtesy of faggot stockholders who deserve the ROPE!
Kill the fortnite faggotry and kill the instant gratification games and you might get a future worth living in.
I lost braincells reading this, Go back in your hole.
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Most people who'd even be into GTA or game overall (insert version) RPG have grown up. It's all about instant gratification LE Fortnite now for the new blood courtesy of faggot stockholders who deserve the ROPE!
Kill the fortnite faggotry and kill the instant gratification games and you might get a future worth living in.
ok boomer
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Most people who'd even be into GTA or game overall (insert version) RPG have grown up. It's all about instant gratification LE Fortnite now for the new blood
Yes
courtesy of faggot stockholders who deserve the ROPE!
Kill the fortnite faggotry and kill the instant gratification games and you might get a future worth living in.
Good ol' argonath
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Most people who'd even be into GTA or game overall (insert version) RPG have grown up. It's all about instant gratification LE Fortnite now for the new blood courtesy of faggot stockholders who deserve the ROPE!
Kill the fortnite faggotry and kill the instant gratification games and you might get a future worth living in.
What the fuck man.
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I lost braincells reading this, Go back in your hole.
Hxhahxhahhxgahxgagxgagxgag What a reply! Love ya <3
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Way too Greek. :fly:
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Way too Greek. :fly:
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True, true xD
Look what else will remind you Greece.
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hahaha sad cuz this is also the community's highlight for the past two weeks(?)
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Look what else will remind you Greece.
Good point
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yes to die
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Look what else will remind you Greece.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_government-debt_crisis
Thought it would've been your terrible border control with Turkey.
yes to die
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T-Eo0j092Q
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VC:MP's still going strong. 15-22 players daily, so hop in if you want to play an active Argo server :war:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8EVJraToy4
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VC:MP's still going strong. 15-22 players daily, so hop in if you want to play an active Argo server :war:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8EVJraToy4
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I came back as nostalgia, not knowing anything about what happened in the past 8 years or so. But i do see GTAV as the only way to rebuild something of what once was. Im not delusional and thinking it could be the community it once was but if building a server where we can have fun after working hours or in weekend, then id be happy to have achieved that. Reading a lot of the comments here make me a lil sad. Everyone who was around in 2007 is now old and mature like me. We would not show such behaviour.
But i guess the glue that had hold us together fell apart at some point.
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I came back as nostalgia, not knowing anything about what happened in the past 8 years or so. But i do see GTAV as the only way to rebuild something of what once was. Im not delusional and thinking it could be the community it once was but if building a server where we can have fun after working hours or in weekend, then id be happy to have achieved that. Reading a lot of the comments here make me a lil sad. Everyone who was around in 2007 is now old and mature like me. We would not show such behaviour.
But i guess the glue that had hold us together fell apart at some point.
The scripts on the V:MP server takes me back to the good old SA:MP days, RS3 - RS4 days, which is the reason im playing currently - so I think you're right.
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I came back as nostalgia, not knowing anything about what happened in the past 8 years or so. But i do see GTAV as the only way to rebuild something of what once was. Im not delusional and thinking it could be the community it once was but if building a server where we can have fun after working hours or in weekend, then id be happy to have achieved that. Reading a lot of the comments here make me a lil sad. Everyone who was around in 2007 is now old and mature like me. We would not show such behaviour.
But i guess the glue that had hold us together fell :gand: :war: :janek: apart at some point.
Truth is, the mistakes in SA:MP have only accelerated the downfall, other servers just keep on delaying what is the inevitable of a slowly dying client. It's futile discussing further what caused this and how to fix this, the only thing "broken" is people not wanting to join because simply they don't want to. The server is sitting there with all its scripts and ready to go at any moment to re-live glory days, but we've proven that nothing we've tried works as a permanent solution. It's fine for some motivated people left to try and rise up the activity and that's not what I'm talking about here. For a chance for this community to live on, it must happen through V:MP, old guys with no free time won't be the ones to bring steady activity. Young people hardly know san andreas, vice city maybe iv too. I like SA:MP and i've tried to take it all on my shoulders especially back in 2018, like kjones does now and other people have before, I really hope it works out not only cause i'm an admin in sa:mp, it's because I really like the game and how it stands in time , but seeing the realistic option for the future of the server is keeping up with new technologies. I don't mean to be pessimistic, but I've seen with my eyes a loop of failed attempts, personally I still feel motivated to help SA:MP, just trying to be objective as an outsider would.
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I think the original vibe of Argonath was simplicity with a focus on fun, wholesome RP and we somewhat lost that along the way. GTA V feels the way forward - a platform that is thriving.
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I think the original vibe of Argonath was simplicity with a focus on fun, wholesome RP and we somewhat lost that along the way. GTA V feels the way forward - a platform that is thriving.
Just couldn't agree less - this^
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What is the destination of the community? Is it gonna be revived? Is there something cooking that would probably heal it back?
I've been inactive so I'm not aware of all what's been happening here but I heard things ve been going on quite badly, therefore excuse my questions.
it could be revived, but new rules have to change. now people can deny to roleplay, and go afk to avoid it, so it's impossible to roleplay properly.
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I came back as nostalgia, not knowing anything about what happened in the past 8 years or so. But i do see GTAV as the only way to rebuild something of what once was. Im not delusional and thinking it could be the community it once was but if building a server where we can have fun after working hours or in weekend, then id be happy to have achieved that. Reading a lot of the comments here make me a lil sad. Everyone who was around in 2007 is now old and mature like me. We would not show such behaviour.
But i guess the glue that had hold us together fell apart at some point.
Old yes, mature? Hell no old friend.
Im still amazed that the community is still around all though it may seem its going through a rough period. Spent so many hours in the community when I was younger and I am thankfull for everything they done.
Written from my Phone, excuse my poor writing etc.
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Still don’t know why you’re all taking such hard time to think over it, SA:MP “may” be dying, but the main thing keeping a server alive is groups. No actively role-playing criminal, police, etc groups, the server would not be alive. For a server like Argonath, it needs Gvardia, CM, etc etc the groups that were once a part of the community but driven out by the toxicity shifted somewhere else.
For V:MP, I could join in whenever I’d want to, but what would be the point of it if I were to be playing in a big ass map with no groups, etc.