Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Fatboy_Rob on June 17, 2008, 02:25:27 pm
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Well, I've been getting crap from some players, and [ALS]Ronn (or [AV]) topped the icing for me.
From the PD, to you 'criminals'...
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+ When you shoot at us...
... Do not expect us to ask surrender.
+ When you call us names, and harass us...
... Do not start complain when we suspect you for Verbal Assault.
+ When you jump into a suspects car...
... Do not start complain when we suspect you for Aiding and Abetting.
+ When you throw things at us, such as, but not limited to, Donuts, tomatoes, shoes, soda cans, dildos...
... do not start complain about abuse when we suspect you for Assault & Battery with a Deadly Missile.
+ When you decide to block us with your car purposely, or try to stop us from getting the suspect...
... Do not complain about abuse when we suspect you for Obstruction of Justice.
+ When we order you to pull your car to the side of the road...
... Do not cry about abuse abuse when we suspect you for Failure of Compliance.
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(Crime meanings in a nutshell)
Verbal Assault - The abuser tends to verbally assault their victim by calling names, degrading, screaming, threatening, criticizing, berating and humiliating. They will center their victim out in front of family and friends by taking small personality flaws and embellishing them to the extreme. They make snide remarks and use sarcasm to erode the victim’s sense of self-worth and self confidence. Making the victim look bad in front of others is an attempt to isolate the victim and keep them at their mercy. Then, the abuse worsens.
Aiding and Abetting - A criminal charge of aiding and abetting or accessory can usually be brought against anyone who helps in the commission of a crime, though legal distinctions vary by state. A person charged with aiding and abetting or accessory is usually not present when the crime itself is committed, but he or she has knowledge of the crime before or after the fact, and may assist in its commission through advice, actions, or financial support. Depending on the degree of involvement, the offender's participation in the crime may rise to the level of conspiracy.
Assault & Batter with a Deadly Missle - Whoever, wantonly or maliciously, shoots at, within, or into, or throws any missile or hurls or projects a stone or other hard substance which would produce death or great bodily harm, at, within, or in any public or private building, occupied or unoccupied, or public or private bus or any train, locomotive, railway car, caboose, cable railway car, street railway car, monorail car, or vehicle of any kind which is being used or occupied by any person, or any boat, vessel, ship, or barge lying in or plying the waters of this state, or aircraft flying through the airspace of this state shall be guilty of a felony of the second degree. (Throwing stuff at someone with intention to do harm)
Obstruction of Justice - In different places, this term has diffrent meanings. Where I have grown up, and seen on TV all my life. Obstruction of Justice basically means: You're trying to stop us from getting to the suspect on purpose, accidents happen yes, though we can tell if your blatantly trying to block us from getting to, apprehending, or shooting/killing the suspect.
Failure of Compliance/Being non-compliant - Again, In different places, this term has diffrent meanings. Where I have grown up, and seen on TV all my life. Failure of Compliance meaning: You're not listening to us, you're not doing what we say. As in, if I order you to pull over, and you start speeding off, your being non-compliant.
Have a nice day friends.
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+ When you throw things at us, such as, but not limited to, Donuts, tomatoes, shoes, soda cans, dildos...
... do not start complain about abuse when we suspect you for Assault & Battery with a Deadly Missile.
made me giggle :)
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Well, the 'Deadly Missile' part, is just a legal term defining something thats being projected.
You do not think, that if you throw a dildo at someone, you could poke an eye out? :lol:
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Hayden... Dpends how Big the Diildo is...
my GF has one that HUGE its like 2 times the size of my umm yea..... and mine is BIG!
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Hayden... Dpends how Big the Diildo is...
my GF has one that HUGE its like 2 times the size of my umm yea..... and mine is BIG!
LMAO ... :lol: :rofl:
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I think its funny that cops have GPS system on their belts and eyes in back of their head. :)
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I think its funny that cops have GPS system on their belts and eyes in back of their head. :)
Yeah and don't forget about their hearing^^ They can understand that a drug deal is taking place even if it's behind the building or in the top floor^^ w00t for Super Robo-cops!
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I think its funny that cops have GPS system on their belts and eyes in back of their head. :)
Well you've got all the same systems as them...what you have said there is no argument for cops being biased...
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I aggree with hayden,Suspects have to read it so dont cry next time
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Well you've got all the same systems as them...what you have said there is no argument for cops being biased...
@ Merc: You have officially been pwnt. :lol:
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Reality over this : You commit a roleplay crime, you get suspected.
Now a few things I want to point out :
When you call us names, and harass us...
... Do not start complain when we suspect you for Verbal Assault.
This is also considered as flaming and you can get weither warned or kicked (if repeated offence). Dawg is slang but it still mean dog. Never will you call a cop a dog... At least I never saw such in Finland and I don't think that it happen alot in other countries either except for some rare cases.
+ When you decide to block us with your car purposely, or try to stop us from getting the suspect...
... Do not complain about abuse when we suspect you for Obstruction of Justice.
This is also Anti-RP and can be reported to admins.
Finaly my wise sentence : Don't do something in Argonath that u wouldn't do in real life.
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This is also considered as flaming and you can get weither warned or kicked (if repeated offence).
This is the most stupid thing in my opinion...IC flaming isn't allowed? So everyone is happy in the utopia that is Argonath are they? Nobody ever gets angry or insults anyone else.
Why not come join me in the flourishing meadows where the bunnies hop and play
*Poncho skips into the bountiful meadows with all the happy citizens singing "la la la di daa"*
Give me a break...
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This is the most stupid thing in my opinion...IC flaming isn't allowed?
It isn't allowed.
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This is the most stupid thing in my opinion...IC flaming isn't allowed? So everyone is happy in the utopia that is Argonath are they? Nobody ever gets angry or insults anyone else.
Why not come join me in the flourishing meadows where the bunnies hop and play
*Poncho skips into the bountiful meadows with all the happy citizens singing "la la la di daa"*
Give me a break...
Right on, I mean seriously People Say F**k IRL, here's an Example.
Cop Shouts Megaphone):Pullover
*Citizen Pulls over
Citizen Says To himself:Aww F***ing S**t What Did I do this time...
Citizen(0) Is warned for Flaming/cussing
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Citizen Says To himself:Aww F***ing S**t What Did I do this time...
Citizen(0) Is warned for Flaming/cussing
That is not flaming, this is flaming:
"Aww you F***ing S**t What Did I do this time..."
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Just Saying, Ive seen it happen..
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I would like to discuss about two points of that:
+ When you jump into a suspects car...
... Do not start complain when we suspect you for Aiding and Abetting.
You can not suspect for 'being in suspects car'. Maybe he was in civilian car, when him friend done something bad and him status turned to 'suspect'
You can suspect citizen who are with suspect only when, when he start screaming like - leave us alone, if he doing drive-by etc.
10-14 - Citizen with suspect
+ When you throw things at us, such as, but not limited to, Donuts, tomatoes, shoes, soda cans, dildos...
... do not start complain about abuse when we suspect you for Assault & Battery with a Deadly Missile.
When I saw this - I laughed a lot. Catch that civilian, aim gun at him, he will scare and put him hands up, bring him to the wall and fine him. Suspecting for that - its an abuse...
I typed this comment long... Because this situation is hard, and... I can't say anything more without - no comments. But few reasons why you doing /su is strange...
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No friend.
If your in a friends car, and he turns to a suspect, all you gotta do is say "Hey man, I don't want any part of this" and hop out.
Otherwise, you're an accessory.
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When I saw this - I laughed a lot. Catch that civilian, aim gun at him, he will scare and put him hands up, bring him to the wall and fine him. Suspecting for that - its an abuse...
Go QQ some more friend.
Its not abuse, why? Well, I'll answer you with a question.
Why on earth are you throwing things at a cop?
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Fatboy, you can't know if your friend is wanted. In real life your friend won't change colour from white to orange. Its a ten-code 10-14, and if civilian doing nothing - just sitting - you can not suspect him.
About throwing things to cops - you don't read all what I said. Its a fineable crime, not suspectable. You wont jail/shoot civilian if he throw something to you. You can write a fine for few 100 dollars and let him go. If he refuses to pay ticket - only then you are letable to use /suspect.
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This is the most stupid thing in my opinion...IC flaming isn't allowed? So everyone is happy in the utopia that is Argonath are they? Nobody ever gets angry or insults anyone else.
Why not come join me in the flourishing meadows where the bunnies hop and play
*Poncho skips into the bountiful meadows with all the happy citizens singing "la la la di daa"*
Give me a break...
You can be angry and insult IC all you want, as long as you do not use swearing and are ready to get called on your actions without moaning.
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Fatboy, you can't know if your friend is wanted. In real life your friend won't change colour from white to orange. Its a ten-code 10-14, and if civilian doing nothing - just sitting - you can not suspect him.
Oh do not try and play the 'Real Life' card on me here.
About throwing things to cops - you don't read all what I said. Its a fineable crime, not suspectable. You wont jail/shoot civilian if he throw something to you. You can write a fine for few 100 dollars and let him go. If he refuses to pay ticket - only then you are letable to use /suspect.
So, if you throw a rock at me, I should say "Hey thats not nice, pay a fine of $50."
No, I'm gonna suspect you and shoot and kill you.
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Oh do not try and play the 'Real Life' card on me here.
So, if you throw a rock at me, I should say "Hey thats not nice, pay a fine of $50."
No, I'm gonna suspect you and shoot and kill you.
I can't say anything more... If you don't know which crimes is fineable and which is suspectable... That it's not my fault.
Please inform me when you will apply at ARPD.
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I do know which are fineable and suspectable.
About throwing objects, I don't mean one, I mean like an onslaught of objects being thrown at me.
Yes, if you throw one at me, I won't fine you, I'll just hop out and beat you down a bit with my nighstick.
If you start throwing lots of things at me, then I will suspect you.
Please inform me when you will apply at ARPD.
That made me laugh.
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Please inform me when you will apply at ARPD.
Hayden is already ARPD Officer, or above officer, im not sure ;)
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Well you've got all the same systems as them...what you have said there is no argument for cops being biased...
Just too blind to see my point. Maybe I actually roleplay.
Omg im turning orange? Wtf? *BANG BANG* your dead :)
Difference is, we cant take advantage of this sh*t, and yea, we really spawn with weapons and the /su ability ;)
We get punished for doing something wrong, cadets and police dont, all they get is abuse as far as ive seen.
Personally, I think suspects should stop being "orange players" and maybe the cops actually might have to do some investigating rather than click clank *pow* any orange they see, there is too many cops in the server anyways, they usually dominate over half of the server, which should be cut down to at least 25% of the server as cop. . . . . then ye, maybe we would be equal ;)
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You can be angry and insult IC all you want, as long as you do not use swearing and are ready to get called on your actions without moaning.
That kinda limits my roleplay character. Makes it hard to roleplay for me, unless I can use the f*** s**** with the stars " * "
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Hayden is already ARPD Officer, or above officer, im not sure ;)
:o It is Hayden? Sorry for my misunderstood then :)
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Yea Merc, I see that all the time too.
Like yesterday, since you've never met my new character, I'd figure I would go say hi.
I pulled up, all I asked was "Everything alright here boys?" all you had to do is be like "Yup, nothin' goin' on here" I would have been gone lol.
I'm basically the cop that everyone (even the criminals) likes, and again, the cop thats the meanest through the whole ARPD if you get on that side.
The ESG gang knows I'm cool already, sometimes, like if you don't put up a fight, or even run, I'll jail you for 15 seconds and refund your cash of your cool with me :D
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Yea Merc, I see that all the time too.
Like yesterday, since you've never met my new character, I'd figure I would go say hi.
I pulled up, all I asked was "Everything alright here boys?" all you had to do is be like "Yup, nothin' goin' on here" I would have been gone lol.
I'm basically the cop that everyone (even the criminals) likes, and again, the cop thats the meanest through the whole ARPD if you get on that side.
The ESG gang knows I'm cool already, sometimes, like if you don't put up a fight, or even run, I'll jail you for 15 seconds and refund your cash of your cool with me :D
Lol, My RP character likes no cop. Good or Bad, still a cop. He doesn't like 'em. Your part of the law to my character. He likes no law :P
Freedom of speech
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Imagine if I am a cop IRL and some naabcake comes and throws a tomato at me. I will get him, make him lick my whole uniform, break his teeth and then throw him out of the PD.
No officer will say "Sir, it's not polite to throw tomatos at people, they might not like it, please pay fine $25", they will kick your ass instead. :lol:
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You can be angry and insult IC all you want, as long as you do not use swearing and are ready to get called on your actions without moaning.
Fair enough, I understand that swearing isn't the best way, especially as children are playing on the server; 11-12 year olds etc. But what if someone crashes into my car and speeds off, my character would be pretty pissed off and probably shout, can I only shout "Ooooh damn you! damn you bad man!"?
I think a list will have to be made to know what is swearing and what isn't such as "crap", is that a swear word in your eyes? bastard? tosser? Some of them are acceptable in one country but not in others, so depending on the admin that sees it, you may or may not get warned or kicked etc...
Just a thought, but thanks for clearing that up Gandalf because I have heard many different views from the admins.
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Admins kicking and warning for that ... someone sent a complaint about me calling him 'fishface' (that's how kids call eachother in the kindergarden ... "Fishface" "Waaaa, Imma tell mom :cry: :cry:" ) in the roleplay chat. I had to apologize about it, but it was a bit too harsh, don't you think ? :D
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You can be angry and insult IC all you want, as long as you do not use swearing and are ready to get called on your actions without moaning.
Oh and on this note...I have some ingame screenshots of ADMINS IC flaming with swearing etc...maybe if the admins stuck to the server rules, we would to...
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That rule sucks, no offence.
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That rule sucks, no offence.
You didnt read why the rule is there... If you still think the rule sucks then i know whats wrong between me and you.
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It limits afro-american roleplay :devroll: nothing personal
Can we use stars in the letters? like f*ck, sh*t ?
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It isn't allowed.
Well why not? Roleplay flaming, is just normal -.-..... I mean if two black gangs call themselves motherf*ckers, assh*les, b*tches....whats wrong with it? Its just normal-.-
Or you call a cop..( as a black) dunno: you say: 187 on all cops you fool....(if you suspect him then, its kind of childy...for verbal assault. i mean in Real in the ghetto the gangs flame them all time and cops dont do nothng)
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Well why not? Roleplay flaming, is just normal -.-..... I mean if two black gangs call themselves motherf*ckers, assh*les, b*tches....whats wrong with it? Its just normal-.-
Or you call a cop..( as a black) dunno: you say: 187 on all cops you fool....(if you suspect him then, its kind of childy...for verbal assault. i mean in Real in the ghetto the gangs flame them all time and cops dont do nothng)
I don't know where the reason is, but my take on it is that there are younger players playing. Think about Counter-strike servers that turn any word such as "f*ck" into "****", it's because it's not a good word to use and another word could easily be used in its place.
But yeah, if the admins followed the rules, I would to.