Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Collin on May 03, 2009, 11:43:01 pm
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The problem here is, if you are in a gang, you will have rivals and allies.
if you go and drive by somebody it is ok if you do it. but if someone else does it to you, HOLY SHIT DM DM.
seriously guys, the last few days have been hell for police, admins, gang members and just regulars are sick of /p spamming DM.
if you go to a gang fight, go to it for a valid reason of RP, not just to shoot someone down for the sake of the fun.
when you fight in gangs, EXPECT to be shot at and killed,
when you flame someone, EXPECT to be flamed back at.
because everybody is sick and tired of the pointless frowing shit of DM and flame.
as CBF wisely said; Treet them as you want to be treeted yourself.
you flame them, expect to be flamed back at.
and guys dont /report for DM and then go and kill them yourselves. you will be punhished not them.
Hope this riot ends soon befor bans occour.
Collin.
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First of all, Argonath is a RPG server. That means we give options to play different styles and characters.
However while we do not use strict rules, we feel that criminal RP should be different as the idea many have.
Gang Wars
A gang war is a large meeting between two rival groups, mafia's or gangs. The object of this is to settle a difference between them that can not be solved otherwise.
Gang wars are not permitted without strict rules.
First of all, they must be held in a place where they are not likely to meet (innocent) bystanders. Grove street is a bad locations, as many new players from other servers will go there first. On top of a hill in the desert is a better one, you can see anyone coming for miles.
Secondly, they must ave a clear and defined, big reason. That reason is not 'a member was killed yesterday' or 'we do not like you'. It can be 'the right to protect business in Grove Street' or 'placement of headquarters in LV'.
Third, it must be under admin supervision.
Fourth, those involved in gang war can not return when killed.
Fifth, once the war is over any following shooting or conflict will be seen as revengekilling/DM and is punishable.
Gang fights/shootouts
Several times a day gang member fight for almost no reason. The administration does not accept 'they killed a member yesterday, this morning, 5 minutes ago' as a reason to load a car with gang memebers and start shooting. Unless there is a clear and valid reason as to why people meet and fight, this is seen as either revenge killing (even without the killed member present) or DM.
If administration notice several members going to the area of another gang with the purpose of fighting or provoking a fight, the provoking members will be punished.
Any complaints as that they were returning a previous provoke are invalid to escape punishment.
Meetings between gangs that end without fight are allowed.
Gang provoking
A lot of the issues come from provoking. One gang/mafia holding a 'party' on the terrain of another or driving by 100 times in order to provoke a reaction. Players caught in provoking or setting up other gangs/mafias will be punished.
What is the use of criminal roleplay ?
Ok now a lot of players will ask this. A gang or mafia is trying to build an empire and gain power, by using legal and illegal methods. That does not include hanging out for no other reason than to kill rivals that happen to be near by. When empires meet, it can cause a mass shootout, but not on a daily basis.
As we have already mentioned in our very first guide, taking the role of a criminal or murderer by 'I hate you, I kill you' is not good RP, and is not for our server.
If we spot any gang or mafia being formed for no other reason than an excuse to attack others and shoot, they can be closed after receiving official warnings.
Those who wish to play criminals are invited to bring ideas on how we can continue allowing fights between rival gangs/mafias.
But try to answer the following points:
- how to avoid constant conflicts turning the play to DM rather than RP.
- how to incorporate the element that in life nobody wants to die.
- how to stop provoking and annoying between rivals.
- how to avoid a gang disturbing the RP scenario of other gangs by an 'attack'
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Gangs were never meant to be ways of fighting - they were meant to be powerful roleplaying groups where you can experience some of the greatest roleplaying moments of your Argonath life
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Gangs were never meant to be ways of fighting - they were meant to be powerful roleplaying groups where you can experience some of the greatest roleplaying moments of your Argonath life
And to get that power, there has to be fights.
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Wrong...
The only way of getting "power" is respect, and the only way to earn respect is to do respectable things
Do you see businessmen shooting each other for no reason other than for being different? We do business deals and do corporate takeovers...and we end up more "powerful" than any gang
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Business man? WTF? I am talking about street gangs, that want power. How they gain respect? Not with selling andom shit to rich people, but showing other gangs that they are no craddle toys. Mafias and Organizations are pbviouslyt more powerfull than any gang, cause they do business, but gangs dont. They show fight gangs, mafias fight mafias.
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Business man? WTF? I am talking about street gangs, that want power. How they gain respect? Not with selling andom shit to rich people, but showing other gangs that they are no craddle toys. Mafias and Organizations are pbviouslyt more powerfull than any gang, cause they do business, but gangs dont. They show fight gangs, mafias fight mafias.
No?
They have gang war or gunfight because:
- Another side trespass their area
- Another side sprayed their graffiti
- Another side betray
- Another side win the race/chalenge/etc.
- Another side steal girl/friend/property/etc.
- etc. as u can see in GTA SA Single Player
Gang do NOT fight because just "OMG it's another side, I hate them, kill them all!"
There always the reason of fighting
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And what did I say?
They want espect, they got fucked a bit by the other side, and now you want to fuck them.
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If someone from Gang 1 goes to Gang 2 and starts fucking over, it can be seen as provoking gang war.
BTW, David is right about the Businessmen-and-power thing.
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Just andomly going and shit is DM... I say if they have some shit with each other. And what David says, is right only about Businessmen and Mafioso's. Gang Members don't deal with that.
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Thats just Wrong...
Gangs were never meant to be ways of fighting - they were meant to be powerful roleplaying groups where you can experience some of the greatest roleplaying moments of your Argonath life
Once again, GANGS are NOT! MAFIAS...MAFIAS do a different style of Roleplay then gangs!
The only way of getting "power" is respect, and the only way to earn respect is to do respectable things
Do you see businessmen shooting each other for no reason other than for being different? We do business deals and do corporate takeovers...and we end up more "powerful" than any gang
WRONG! Streetgangs are NOT mafias. Streetgangs KILL their enemies to get respect.
No?
They have gang war or gunfight because:
- Another side trespass their area
- Another side sprayed their graffiti
- Another side betray
- Another side win the race/chalenge/etc.
- Another side steal girl/friend/property/etc.
- etc. as u can see in GTA SA Single Player
Gang do NOT fight because just "OMG it's another side, I hate them, kill them all!"
There always the reason of fighting
Thats doesn't need to be right. Did you see the Blood vs. Crips video? Blood:"Tell me man..why do we keep killing eachother?" Crip: "Colours...." Blood:Colours?
Gangs fight over reasons, which are NOT big..but they fight for them. Representing a colour, fighting, dieing, killing for it is a normal rule of a gang.
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United Nations!!!
Maybe start this thing again.
Game has to be fun, but there is already many people who hates eachother OOC.
That is one reason for 'Wars'.
And David, Thats totaly right.
Also, for example. Three most powerfull mafias for example: Corleone,Stracci,Gvardia.
They are strong, but how strong they would be if they dont fight with eachother? I belive it would be stronger than ARPD.
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No?
They have gang war or gunfight because:
- Another side trespass their area
- Another side sprayed their graffiti
- Another side betray
- Another side win the race/chalenge/etc.
- Another side steal girl/friend/property/etc.
- etc. as u can see in GTA SA Single Player
Gang do NOT fight because just "OMG it's another side, I hate them, kill them all!"
There always the reason of fighting
Also, if someone from an other gang is doing a drug deal etc in an other gangs territory (that's trespassing too though), the other gang will probably attack them for that. Then, after that conflict, the gangs could be in constant war, and then it's like in GTA SA Single player, they might just shoot when they see eachother.
I once heard a Blood member I think in a video saying ''when we sit outside our house and watch the cars pass by, we never know which one starts to shoot.'' What reason do their enemies have to shoot them? The reason they have is that they rep different gangs that are beefing with eachother, different colors, different hoods they are from, sometimes even cause that they have different skin colors.
Street gangs was started to make money actually, that's the main reason to join a street gang, to get out the hood.
But then some people don't want to get out the hood, they want to stay true to the gang and hood they grew up in.
But if everyone that RP a street gang member here wanted to get out the hood, everyone would be out by now.
So, for the gang member who wants to stay true to the set, their goal is mostly to be the most powerful gang in their area, and want to rule the streets, so that can turn out in attacking other enemy gangs just to get them away from there, so it will end up killing for colors, respect and power.
Gotta say I'm with Voodoo and ChaNce on this one, I agree with what they said.
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The big problems with gangs on this server no matter what you think they shoudl be able to do, is all theY do once a fight starts is claim each other dmed...
Admins then HAVE to carry out extra work JUST BECAUSE YOU THINK AS A GANG YOU CAN FIGHT AND KILL.
You want true gang warfare then STOP COMPLAINING, and this goes for the larger mafias too, your JUST AS BAD at the complaining.
Many of our more 'annoying' rules are there because the players have complained so much about it, that means YES its YOUR OWN FAULT we have these rules,
So many complaints of DM at gang fights have meant the BEST solution is to DISALLOW IT COMPLETELY, believe it or not but if you had not kept in complaining about DM making admins do shit loads of work JUST COS YOU GOT KILLED then maybe it would still be allowed.
You complaing about DM from fights then you complain about not being able to fight but just think if we let you fight you will complain about dming again, we as admisn cannot win but the rules STAND especially since complaints are on the UP about dming, provoking etc.
You want them relaxed then start to RP, start to realise that if you want to RP confrontations then EXPECT to DIE, and if you do consider it PART OF RP and not a reason to complaing and make admins do extra work.
And yes while I get more and more pissed of with the major gangs/mafias and having to investiate claims, I am not working on bugs, so its time for the Argonath Community to sort itself out cos you really suck at the moment. Most of you seem to be self obsessed and not looking at the bigger picture of what you actions are doing for you and others.
Treat others as you want to be treated youself..
Simple concept...
And the next asshole that says I do, I want to be killed, I expect it as I in a gang.... just think of when you last claimed and reported DM.
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You know CBF, I do want to be killed as I expect it when I am in a gang. And my last DM reports were for some new guys, and when a rivals of my gang come to me and start dis-respecting me, I RP just like IRL, cause I want it. And if it will cause fights, I wont report if I get killed, but I will thank both sides for having that RP. If someone whines, than he can go and f**k himself, what I say.
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i am Extreemly new to argonath, but i think people would say that i am getting the hang of everything VERY fast compared to anyone else, mainly because ive allways got someone near me to ask all my questions. but when i do report it is usually '/report ## DM, new player.'
i admit, if i get DM by a person i know as a 'regular' i do go and kill them back. just the twice tho ;)
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Problems is 90% of gang/mafia players report dm when killed...
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Problems is 90% of gang/mafia players report dm when killed...
Most of them do it, because they've lost the fight/war etc.
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So rather then RP and treat is as part of the expectations of that RP role they call in server rules and admins.. WHO GET VERY PISSED OFF with it KEEP HAPPENING
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So rather then RP and treat is as part of the expectations of that RP role they call in server rules and admins.. WHO GET VERY PISSED OFF with it KEEP HAPPENING
The pissy about it is, they go to fights wanting to kill, sure, when they kill them, HAHA owned you bitch. but when they die after.WTF dude DM /report.
A rule of somesort should be enforced here to help administration, i would rather have less Hackers and bugs than DM.
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Let gang wars happen, if any gang member complains about DM, warn/kick/tempban/ban them. Maybe it can fix the problem.
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I wish it was that easy...
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Or....Just give a headsup to the highest lvl admin, and if anyone from these groups reports for DM, kick him.
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Most of you seem to be self obsessed and not looking at the bigger picture of what you actions are doing for you and others.
The more you guys whine about DM the more CBF has to waste his time over your shitty report for a few 3k for lost weapons.
he could be scripting, fixing bugs, or hell, he needs to have his own fun to right? look at what you are doing to the community.
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Reports come with all sides of any kind of RP group here, but most people I know don't /report when killed by a mafia, in fact Gvardia and Araatus once came to our own agreements that if you die you can't return for an hour to attack.
Collin you do know there is a rule against REVENGE killing? Which means if you die, you can't go back after them till a set time limit.
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Reports come with all sides of any kind of RP group here, but most people I know don't /report when killed by a mafia, in fact Gvardia and Arratus once came to our own agreements that if you die you can't return for an hour to attack.
Collin you do know there is a rule against REVENGE killing? Which means if you die, you can't go back after them till a set time limit.
Yes i know the rule :)
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And the next asshole that says I do, I want to be killed, I expect it as I in a gang.... just think of when you last claimed and reported DM.
I have never been deathmatched by a member of another gang/Mafia... (not counting random new players who are don't understand and who are on trial tags).
At least, I haven't for many months..
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I dont think its good idea to allow DM between mafias Jack.
I like shooting but i like rp more.
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I dont think its good idea to allow DM between mafias Jack.
I like shooting but i like rp more.
Not DM, GANG WARS
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I like shooting but i like rp more.
Thats the most ignorant thing I've heard all day.
Sorry, but shooting can easily equal RP. Thats blatant.
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Not DM, GANG WARS
Gang wars that involve killing are classed as DM and have been so for near 3 years.
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Gang wars that involve killing are classed as DM and have been so for near 3 years.
No? We've have about 29..
Yea, I did just pick a number outta the air, because I've had so many.
:neutral:
If this quote is true, then fuck criminal groups quite frankly, I'll be a cop so that I can be in the "Bluez vs. 0range Gang" gangwar. I even get money if I'm on the Blue side! Hooray!
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A gang war has to be organized between three parties; Gang 1, Gang 2, and an Admin, and has to be held in a secure place like the rule said. If Gang 1 just goes into Gang 2's turf and starts PEWPEWing without their consent or the admin's consent, it's DM.
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Incidentally, any gang that complains when they get attacked is just terrible. I mean, they can't even defend themselves, for gods sake - so they have to resort to crying and whinging.
If you fear the group you're fighting are prone to moaning, then work out an agreement (like the Araatus/Gvardia 20 minute rule).
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Gang wars that involve killing are classed as DM and have been so for near 3 years.
Dude, you are just holding yourself on this old fact , that it has been like that for 3 years..so what?
Gangwars CAN be RPed.......and they SHOULDN'T be classed as DM.
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Dude, you are just holding yourself on this old fact , that it has been like that for 3 years..so what?
Gangwars CAN be RPed.......and they SHOULDN'T be classed as DM.
Dave is one of those people who never changes his opinion because it would mean admitting he is wrong, he was unconditionally disliked when he was gangs and groups moderator a long time ago because he tried to promote the same one-sided, neverchanging view.
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A gang war has to be organized between three parties; Gang 1, Gang 2, and an Admin, and has to be held in a secure place like the rule said. If Gang 1 just goes into Gang 2's turf and starts PEWPEWing without their consent or the admin's consent, it's DM.
I agree. Except one thing; secure place. If someone comes in the shootout, his problem. I dont mean to come to LSPD and start shooting, I mean to take a place such as Glen Park, or Jefferson, not GS9, since not many people are there, none at all, quite frankly.
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what about area 59 or somewhere in the deserts or some of those ruins in the desert? :trust:
btw you can be powerfull without rifles and guns, how? RESPECT!
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Dave is one of those people who never changes his opinion because it would mean admitting he is wrong, he was unconditionally disliked when he was gangs and groups moderator a long time ago because he tried to promote the same one-sided, neverchanging view.
QFT! Good point there Niall.
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Dave is one of those people who never changes his opinion because it would mean admitting he is wrong, he was unconditionally disliked when he was gangs and groups moderator a long time ago because he tried to promote the same one-sided, neverchanging view.
You want to bring up that old argument again. Fine by me. I'm not the one that got demoted.
You actually have to be the most arrogant and stuck up guy i've ever met.
QFT! Good point there Niall.
What the hell would you know about it? You were banned and inactive for most of the time you claim to have been here for.
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lol victor isn't stuck up....
i think that maybe gang wars should be allowed on the term that you cant return to the same rp for 1 hour and that you cannot report or /p moan if you are involved and happen to die or something...people should just face it lik ea man and not be puff's all their lives and make the server a more enjoyable placr :).
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You want to bring up that old argument again. Fine by me. I'm not the one that got demoted.
Lol it's pretty stupid for you of all people to bring that up seeing as you were kicked out of Rstar clan, kicked out of the admins team and you also later lost your rank as forum mod. None of the latter happened to me. I didn't want to bring that up either but you had to be immature and bring the demotion up : ).
Today was a shock for the clan members, when we knew that our two members were using the cheat program for SA:MP... Dave and Gr4nt were permanently banned from clan according to the clan Law and after the discussion of co-leaders. Their admins rights removed from Argonath RPG servers.
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Lol it's pretty stupid for you of all people to bring that up seeing as you were kicked out of Rstar clan, kicked out of the admins team and you also later lost your rank as forum mod. None of the latter happened to me. I didn't want to bring that up either but you had to be immature and bring the demotion up : ).
You forgot I was unbanned 6 hours later. Reinstated as admin and forum mod and head of Argonath Radio.
As for immature. You hate me due to the fact I locked your gang topic for a day. Jesus man. Grow up and move on.
You know jack shit about what happened. You don't know what was discussed between the main admins and myself. All you know what was shown to the public. There is alot more to that than you think. I have been told by Gandalf that the ban was harsh and it should never have happened seeing as we never posed a threat to the server.
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You forgot I was unbanned 6 hours later. Reinstated as admin and forum mod and head of Argonath Radio.
As for immature. You hate me due to the fact I locked your gang topic for a day. Jesus man. Grow up and move on.
If that's true it doesn't matter... Your C.V is still worse than mine which is why mocking me about demotion was a complete fail : ). I don't hate you, i dislike the fact that you were on a powertrip whilst you were forum mod and i also dislike the fact that you cannot accept that you were wrong in instances and you never take other factors into account (i'm referring to gangwars and your inability to look at both sides of the argument). Please do not accuse me of holding a grudge as you are well-known for that, having a memory isn't holding a grudge but modifying a topic every day for weeks and inserting a warning there even though gandalf himself removed it is holding a grudge.
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If that's true it doesn't matter... Your C.V is still worse than mine which is why mocking me about demotion was a complete fail : ). I don't hate you, i dislike the fact that you were on a powertrip whilst you were forum mod and i also dislike the fact that you cannot accept that you were wrong in instances and you never take other factors into account (i'm referring to gangwars and your inability to look at both sides of the argument). Please do not accuse me of holding a grudge as you are well-known for that, having a memory isn't holding a grudge but modifying a topic every day for weeks and inserting a warning there even though gandalf himself removed it is holding a grudge.
I warned you based on the complaints I was getting. I had no way to check the logs. There was no ease of access back then like there is now.
I did look at both sides. Just YOU do not like to admit what I done was right due to the fact I had no proper means of communication with anyone that could have gave me some extra information due to myself being abroad at the time.
Just drop it alright. I hate you digging up this old argument from nearly 2 years ago. Just leave it buried for once. I know it's hard for you to do it. But please. Just leave it alone.
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If you have no proper means of communication or no ways to check the logs then you should not warn first investigate later, you should investigate first and warn depending on the results. That's like some redneck lying and claiming he saw a russian fighter jet and then the american government instantly nuking russian without finding out any facts. That is all i'm saying...
Ok i will drop this because believe it or not i also hate arguing about this, you slandering me about my demotion just kicked me off, but perhaps i was too bold about you in my comments before that.
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www.messenger.live.com
There you go. ;)
This is about gangwars, not about who is the best of you to.. But I agree to what Niall said first.
I dont think its good idea to allow DM between mafias Jack.
I like shooting but i like rp more.
Damn, Xeuq... The whole time I've been here, shooting & dealing drugs have been my roleplay purposes. I'm not basically doing anything else when I'm online.
It must been over a year or more since someone complained that I dmed someone etc. I do rob people, I do shoot people, I do try to create some kind of gangs & make war with rival gangs, I do that kind of things all the time. So if you can roleplay properly & as far as you are making it look good, it won't be a problemo.
And seriously, if you got anything against what a player did to you in a battle or so, take it as a man & remember his name & make a roleplay situation against him the day after or maybe a couple of hours later. Your choice, it isn't harder..
So sorry, I don't get what you mean by you wrote above.
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If you have no proper means of communication or no ways to check the logs then you should not warn first investigate later, you should investigate first and warn depending on the results. That's like some redneck lying and claiming he saw a russian fighter jet and then the american government instantly nuking russian without finding out any facts. That is all i'm saying...
Ok i will drop this because believe it or not i also hate arguing about this, you slandering me about my demotion just kicked me off, but perhaps i was too bold about you in my comments before that.
Yes, It was pretty bold. It was also pretty dumb of me to just spew out a comment on your demotion. You and I are pretty much alike in a way. We react in much the same way to comments and use much in the same way of , how could I put this..., "context" if you get what I mean.
Lets just forget about what happened with GSF. All I know that what I done was right baed on the information I had at hand. I had near 20 complaints and if you don't think that is enough to give a warning then well that's your opinion.
I hate arguing about it too. And as much as this sounds cliched, that time was actually one of the worst times I had on Argonath. I mean, yeah, I loves the admin work but now I can relax and play more rather than work.
@ Woody - Not funny in the slightest. We know that exists and we have each other added as contacts. But what is on Argonath stays on Argonath. I do not like to bring it into "Real Life" now seeing as there is not much to talk about now.
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@ Woody - Not funny in the slightest. We know that exists and we have each other added as contacts. But what is on Argonath stays on Argonath. I do not like to bring it into "Real Life" now seeing as there is not much to talk about now.
It wasn't ment to be fun. As I've seen you bring big conversations out of small things plenty of times. Do that in PM instead, or use msn or whatever instead of doing it here. And if you don't want to make a big thing out of it, just ignore what the person said. It ain't harder.
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It wasn't ment to be fun. As I've seen you bring big conversations out of small things plenty of times. Do that in PM instead, or use msn or whatever instead of doing it here. And if you don't want to make a big thing out of it, just ignore what the person said. It ain't harder.
I know it wasn't meant to be funny. I don't bring big conversations out of big things for no reason. There is alot of stuff that you have no seen that makes me do such things so don't criticise and lecture me on this matter. And i'm not going to ignore someone who constantly criticises me on my job and "Everything I did was wrong" even though I had never been told off or talked to about it by any of the head administration.
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omfg this is a topic about gang wars
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omfg this is a topic about gang wars
Pointless post.
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The fact is: Gangwars are OFCOURSE Roleplaysituations, and NO DM at all.
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The fact is: Gangwars are OFCOURSE Roleplaysituations, and NO DM at all.
That's not a fact, that's an opinion...
You cannot say that gangwars are always roleplay and never deathmatch. On the contrary - a "gang war" is very often just a cover and explanation for deathmatching.
But it depends on how the gang wars are organized.
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That's not a fact, that's an opinion...
You cannot say that gangwars are always roleplay and never deathmatch. On the contrary - a "gang war" is very often just a cover and explanation for deathmatching.
But it depends on how the gang wars are organized.
Yeah, maybe my expression was not quite right.
With RPed gangwars I do NOT mean : HEY LOOK DERE' BAM BAM BAM BAM! KILL PLZ! NAO!
Gangwars should be organized and planned by a specific gang, so it counts as RP.
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As I have said from the start; gang wars are fun and RP.
There is no point in the discussion of this as the rules have already been laid out for this.
Imo, this was one retarded topic, made by someone who likes to be a hero and change argonath.
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Gang wars = DM
IC Flaming = OOC Flaming
Grow up ffs...It all happens..Gang wars happen when 2 sides disagree..It's just andomly can happen. Good RPers that RP gang wars enjoy, and those who oppose them, when win, if they suck at RP, they will show off, if they lose, DM.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAmsmJyyDh4&feature=channel_page
Here is a video of gang wars..
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You know what I think is different from SA:MP Roleplay compared to MTA:VC, VC:MP, MTA:SA, something is always at stake, noone ever wants to loose, whether its money or reputation, each group wants to be known as the best, but when you play on the other Argonath servers, you don't lose anything if you get killed or anything like that, and they just have fun, and thats why I think SA:MP has gang wars, there is always something at stake. I think not all people enjoy the roleplay in SA:MP, they just want to win at all costs.
And please don't say why I'm talking about the other servers, I'm just using it as a example.
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You know what I think is different from SA:MP Roleplay compared to MTA:VC, VC:MP, MTA:SA, something is always at stake, noone ever wants to loose, whether its money or reputation, each group wants to be known as the best, but when you play on the other Argonath servers, you don't lose anything if you get killed or anything like that, and they just have fun, and thats why I think SA:MP has gang wars, there is always something at stake. I think not all people enjoy the roleplay in SA:MP, they just want to win at all costs.
And please don't say why I'm talking about the other servers, I'm just using it as a example.
Exactly. And gang wars will lead to people always wanting to win, and those who lose wanting a rematch under conditions that work better for them so they can win. It would just be repeatedover and over again. If you want gang wars. Suggest a system thatit could run based upon. As even "organised" fights with admins present still lead to chaos.
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Exactly. And gang wars will lead to people always wanting to win, and those who lose wanting a rematch under conditions that work better for them so they can win. It would just be repeatedover and over again. If you want gang wars. Suggest a system thatit could run based upon. As even "organised" fights with admins present still lead to chaos.
Of course, as a gang, you want to be the best. Whatever you do in life, you almost always want to be the number one. Simple as that.
Sure, sometimes Gang wars can get out of hands, but that's just because people get angry because of they just got killed.
For example, If you play Fifa, you get angry when you lose or when the other team scored a goal. When you play GTA or Counter Strike, you get angry when you die.
That's like an human reaction, sometimes you get pissed as hell when you get killed. So basically, this problemo will always be there.
In fifa, you can play a rematch, in Counter Strike, you can just respawn. And in GTA, you can redo the mission or in this case, the gang war.
A gang or a group will always fight for being number one, and that's not right in my opinion to take that away. That's a part of the game, have fun and compete.
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Pointless post.
haha n that wasnt pointless eh?
Anyways, my opinion about gangwars is that you can only have a good gangwar with people you know won't cry when they lose. I remember Cems/Stracci vs. GSF/Corleone gangwar. Cems/Stracci side lost, no crying by their side. Ronn even walked up to the winners and congratulated them.
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i think Argonath's gags are like in this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdgExEkzMr8
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I wish it was like that..