Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: TheRock on June 03, 2010, 10:39:32 pm
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Greetings Folks
This message is directed to the players who are here for a year or more..
Recently I sat and wondered many things... among of them, once subject has been the money in SA-MP!
Do we need them? Do they help us at something? What do we gain by them? Why is it worth keeping them?
My mind found a numerous of answers.. many... but mostly the things that came through my mind is that it's useless for the oldies to have money stored in bank and never used...
Why should we have money? to own a vehicle? What does it offer us? Just a /carlock & ability to have car tuned & spawn where you want?
Useless... We have free stuff on our server, for example the LSAP Vehicles :) Why don't you just use them instead of buying your own? What does it benefit? Just the feeling of ownership & RPG?
My point here is... We do not need money... Money is useless.. so I would like to make a small suggestion... If you are one of these guys who has many $$ in bank or on hand.. and just keep them.. without even using them.. WHY don't you help the new players or the poor ones to fulfill their dream? The server needs new blood... people thirsty for Argonath... The average of the old ones is saying "I'm bored".. and the new ones love to explore Argonath... WHY don't you support them? Try it for once, and you will see how nice feeling it is to share what you have with others! Don't be selfish and hold them all for your self.. if you have money which are not needed, you can do a few things on the following List!
-Donate to poor
-Make Events ! Have Fun!
-Donate to social organizations who help the community, EX; BCA (Curse) or CMB! So each citizen can have some $$ once he receives his passport!
-Support / Make lotto or payday
-Support some to a new player!
Why? Cause you don't need them! What's the point of having money when you do not use them? If you are not happy with them, why do you hold them? Make some people happy! Donate to the poors!
Lately I see people saying that rich is the one who has the most $$.. but you are wrong! A person can be called rich only if he has successfully fulfilled every target they had! Those who are happy with what they have and not want more.. and most important, those who have friends! Be Social ! go out meet new people.. Don't be bored! There are many people out there who are waiting you to find them! So go and find them! :D Don't close your self and have only a small amount of friends... You can have unlimited! There's no limit! Argonath is a server with freedom & a few rules...
In conclusion.. with this topic.. I try to explain to the old players that it's not always needed to save money for your self & never use therm! There are a tons of things you can waste them on! Mostly, making people happy! Donate to people who need them!
Your help can be small as regarding the amount of $$, but my friend every little effort helps into a new begin!
Good Luck to these who do not go "TL;DR" and understand my point, and as well.. help poor players!
As for me... I've had enough of money.. I'm bored of money! I don't need money to be happy! I need friends! Friends and targets which I succeed at, make me feel stronger, better and happier!
I just gave out my total amount of money for the fifth time, one hour ago I gave 160,000$ to poor people in argonath... Big thanks to Chuck, [Rstar]IcyAero & =AV=Aksel
Try it, and you will see! You will feel better!
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Let's hope my benefit to new players isn't ignored.
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Let's hope my benefit to new players isn't ignored.
It's not :) Keep going!
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Yeah I see your point to share money if you have tons of it. I only have money to have home, cars and business. And you made intresting point that why I want those? Well yeah because of role playing. Sure I could sell all what I have but that will take something what is important to my role playing away. And that's pretty much the reason why I play on this server. So not going to sell those to just give my all money to poors. Sorry but it just sounded like that when you was describing this. But yeah I agree that if you do have tons of money and not even going to use those for anything..why not make some events or something. I myself gave 100 000 away on my b-day to give 1000 for everyone as payday. Try something like that out. It's really kinda cool :)
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I admire people like you Dexter :) I remember when you had won the 3 mil lotto, You spent all of them having fun! And that's good! :D You enjoy it.. At least you did a good use of $$ on your bday ;P May Argonath have more people like you! :o
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I admire people like you Dexter :) I remember when you had won the 3 mil lotto, You spent all of them having fun! And that's good! :D You enjoy it.. At least you did a good use of $$ on your bday ;P May Argonath have more people like you! :o
<3 Rock! And more peeps like you too! Who cares so much about others too :)
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I try the best for my self.
My self has as main targets:
-Have Fun
-Have Friends!
-Make other people happy & help them if possible
-Care for others! :o
These.. and they are enough I think :)
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Some of us veterans gained money by working (trading, roleplaying, etc.). Some of us did not receive any "donations". If new players would love to "explore Argonath" and "fulfill their dreams", shouldn't they work for themselves? By giving away money, we basically give them everything. They will no longer depend on themselves, but on others. Their so-called achievements would be of others.
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I do not speak for a big boost :)
10k donation is fine... and a small help is always a good start :)
Every new player has as a dream to make a successful life... This means, all of them want to have 1 car (at least), a house and a business ;) Why not give them a little hand? It's not bad ;)
If you were a new player, wouldn't you like someone giving you a small amount of money (could be the same as welcome money) to help you? :) All of us work + get donations.. Donations are also by server, via lottos and paydays ;)
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i didnt get annything when i started. you know i think if you would give some new players some money.. they might just leave and never comeback.. bai bai money. fact 2 is that if youre become more regular you will start making friends.. those new friends might give some money and help and you are sure you make a good dontation. but that what i think.
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Finding friends on your first days on server is something good :) You can have someone to speak to, someone to hang out with and someone to share things with :)
Not all players get help by other.. that's cause other people are either money hungry.. or just saving money for no reason... but if you help people.. it's on your self... If you wanna feel good.. I suggest you do it :) Even if small amount.. every effort boosts a player to a new begin ;)
I remember the people who first helped me... It was the EX =RM=Stabby and later Dream Corleone and now.. Dream Green.. who introduced me into the server.. he teached me the basic... afterward it was matute that made me feel inside a community :) I stayed here thanks to him
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I collect and save money "like a jew" according to everyone on the Araatus TS.
Why?
:: In case my business gets reevaluated.
:: In case someone in Araatus needs money suddenly for a really fucking good reason.
:: For a rainy day.
:: As practice for real life.
I still have no idea how to make money on this server so all I can do is save what I have and hope for the best. Call me selfish if you will, but I give money for good work - not for nothing.
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You have reasons to save $$, The topic was directed to the people who keep saving $$ or who have many of them for no reason..!
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I used to make events once I had 3 cars, bizz + house.
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Yes, I remember :) And I hope sometime you will be back doing the same thing :D
Events, Parties on Mama's Club etc :D
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I collect and save money "like a jew" according to everyone on the Araatus TS.
Haha, I actually smiled when I read that.
I appreciate what you guys doing but I dont know if it helps to just give money to others, for me I see this that you are killing the problem with money when the problem really is about money.
The Illuminati has been in ArgonathRPG some time :cool:
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Helping others = getting your self happier = success to a target! :)
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Helping others = getting your self happier = success to a target! :)
Yet it will just circle around in an evil money circle if you get me right. You should kill this money problem with something yet completly new unique thing, yet I believe thats impossible but I dont mind any people trying to get me wrong.
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Point for me atleast is not to give JUST money. As Rock said it feels good to make someone happy. But sure there is more ways to do that than just money and I am myself trying those other ways too. And I don't know how many here gets this wrong but point is not that we buy friendship with money. It's just one of the ways how you can show that you appreciate someone. Not best way but one of those,yes.
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It is impossible to get rid of such a problem as money on SA-MP is, as everything on roleplay is based off money.. You wanna buy guns? You need money, Drugs? Money... Cars / Houses / Business? Money... Even thought it can be RPly money.. it need to be real one to hold ownership :/ else all would be free to claim as your property
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I also agree with you Rock and Dexter, thats why I wrote earlier that something new unique thing unimagineable should appear :), what should come I dont got a clue about...
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For something new to come.. it's too late I guess.. I hope those bored people go on Argonath Stunts, when it's ready.. and I hope that server wont be money-based D:.
Argo needs to run on new blood! :P new players
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I still have no idea how to make money on this server so all I can do is save what I have and hope for the best. Call me selfish if you will, but I give money for good work - not for nothing.
I am with the same boat with Panda. Also I have at the moment one goal I want to achieve and it requires some amount of money, what I am trying to make.
Also, what good purpose my car has? The purpose to be mobile at all times. As if I would use public transportation, either it is very far far away from me, or if I have one and exit it, in a matter of seconds it will be taken away by somebody else. Also my car has helped me a lot of times to get away from tight situations.
Don't worry though, I am not as greedy as I might seem. my BF-400 is always unlocked and free to be used by anyone, when I am in-game. And when it runs out of fuel, I do fill it up again.
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Again, this topic was going to these who have money and never use them... not for these who have targets via them ;)
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I only have a NRG because I do not know were state one spawns.
I spawned my NRG on Araatus HQ.
I bought two raindances and spawned them for RP USE abord the SF Carrier.
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Post Merge: June 04, 2010, 12:03:08 am
Again, this topic was going to these who have money and never use them... not for these who have targets via them ;)
BTW, your message was TLTR
I use my cash for NEWS, BCA, and stuff, people call me an attention seeker, when i make adverts, those peoples can shove there hands up were there crap is coming from :).
I use my cash for RP.
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I only have a NRG because I do not know were state one spawns.
I spawned my NRG on Araatus HQ.
I bought two raindances and spawned them for RP USE abord the SF Carrier.
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Okay...And?
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For something new to come.. it's too late I guess.. I hope those bored people go on Argonath Stunts, when it's ready.. and I hope that server wont be money-based D:.
Argo needs to run on new blood! :P new players
They can come on Paruni :).
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Well, one reason to always own a little money, is to train new players. I know that for veteran Argonath players it doesn't matter, but for new players money is a good motivator and works well as a reward. And that way it is easier to explain the new players, that role playing is actually very profitable action and fun at the same time.
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I did not say to give out all of your money ;P ofcourse keep some for your self.. :P
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Just what I just wanna hear. I am making Choo Choo Train events to help players have fun and make money. Instead of donating, I make it as an event so everyone can have fun too.
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I did donate money to new players, and most of them left argonath. Such a waste
this has got me thinking, instead of just donating, I could possibly set up a race round dirt tracks with either any car at all, or ask an admin to maybe spawn dune buggys.
What I am trying to say is, host a fun event rather than just giving it away, it's worth it.
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Well yeah no one said that you should only donate your money but actually do events and that kinda stuff.
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Im and old player too, but got 4k , So what? Dont care about money ingame, i care how to have fun
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Well yeah no one said that you should only donate your money but actually do events and that kinda stuff.
I was not saying omgimamoneyhungrybitchdontdonatemoneyna o.
I was saying, do events, not just giving it away; giving has no interest other than their response. Events, are more fun for more people
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Well yeah no one said that you should only donate your money but actually do events and that kinda stuff.
Role play jobs to new players.<--That's the key, not DDs and other nonsense. Call me old fashion, but since the goal is to help new players, the amount of money you spend on one event, can give a role play job to 5-6 people, and help them develop their role play. Not to mention the realistic approach of it.
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Role play jobs to new players.<--That's the key, not DDs and other nonsense. Call me old fashion, but since the goal is to help new players, the amount of money you spend on one event, can give a role play job to 5-6 people, and help them develop their role play. Not to mention the realistic approach of it.
Now that is a more realistic and usefull method of giving money to new players, since you will also teach them the basics and what they need to know aswell as giving them some money for thier own spending.
When you simply give a new player money they will start looking for others for money by begging, when you have events for new players, that is basically teaching them that the way to earn is joining events.
The True method to earning is RP and working, like being a Taxi driver or a Cop, and by teaching them how to do those jobs you can increase the level of RP within the server and thus raising the respect level between old players and new players because the new players will understand how it works and the rules instead of causing any issues because they did not know. Also by showing them how to RP from the start they will quickly learn how it all goes and may even become successfull in a short time because they were focussed on what they need to do from the start.
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If there was a stable source of income on the pedestrian/criminal side, then I would feel comfortable with spending and budgeting.
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Some remarks I have:
- 70% of my donated money ends up in bought weapons :neutral:
- And what Cofiliano says. You have a saying: "Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will eat for the rest of his life". So giving him 10k and he will probably end up with my 70% of weapon buyers. Learn him to RP on the other hand!
- I also think paydays and lotto's should be reduced. I know I made good money with it (which is already gone), but it's makes people beg for even more
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And here we go! :D Already have discovered few good ways to do this. And by the way I never ment to do this only with one or couple ways. This giving jobs to new players is very good way too. Thought there is nothing wrong to do events too.
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I donated over half of million cash to newbies, giving support and always answering questions.
It's sad that people care only about themself.
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- And what Cofiliano says. You have a saying: "Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will eat for the rest of his life".
Give a man a fish, and he'll eat for a day. Give a fish a man, and he'll eat for weeks! :lol:
Seriously now. :)
I collect and save money "like a jew" according to everyone on the Araatus TS.
Why?
:: In case my business gets reevaluated.
:: In case someone in Araatus needs money suddenly for a really f**king good reason.
:: For a rainy day.
:: As practice for real life.
I still have no idea how to make money on this server so all I can do is save what I have and hope for the best. Call me selfish if you will, but I give money for good work - not for nothing.
This post would pretty much apply to me as well, since I save money for about the same reasons as above. Since I came to SA:MP on July 27, 2008, I have never had over a million dollars in money, but I save money in case. The reason for my low net worth in cash is because I also have no clue how to make a ton of cash, I just save what's left from my FBI salaries (which I don't get when I'm inactive or away due to RL problems, like now) after I replace the cash I spent on day-to-day expenses.
Don't get me wrong though, when I helped new players get started, I'd give them money for a phone and a CB Radio, but I make sure I'm there when they use it so they don't just spend it on weapons. :)
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Im not here for a year yet, but i already started to help some, hosted some events.
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Give a man a fish, and he'll eat for a day. Give a fish a man, and he'll eat for weeks! :lol:
Seriously now. :)
This post would pretty much apply to me as well, since I save money for about the same reasons as above. Since I came to SA:MP on July 27, 2008, I have never had over a million dollars in money, but I save money in case. The reason for my low net worth in cash is because I also have no clue how to make a ton of cash, I just save what's left from my FBI salaries (which I don't get when I'm inactive or away due to RL problems, like now) after I replace the cash I spent on day-to-day expenses.
Don't get me wrong though, when I helped new players get started, I'd give them money for a phone and a CB Radio, but I make sure I'm there when they use it so they don't just spend it on weapons. :)
We registered on the same day if I remember right :redface: , wait I registered on forums a week after I joined when I applied for my drivers license... :conf: anyway..
But you have a point, there is no use of donating a load of money to a new player for nothing, Try get them to RP to earn the money instead of just being given it for nothing, when I see a new player who needs some money and recently joined, I will donate once in a while when I can and I feel they could do with the money and will be gratefull to not waste it on weapons but actually do something usefull like a house, bizz or car.
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I donated over half of million cash to newbies, giving support and always answering questions.
It's sad that people care only about themself.
A good example...!
MB , JDC, I'm here since 10 August 2008 ;P... VC-MP (=RM=Ghost_Dog) :D old days... I was lazy to make a account these days.. so I made one later when I came on SA-MP and really got into the community ;P
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Actually, I was already an MTA:VC regular when I arrived in SA:MP, I started there on April 28, 2008 when MTA:VC was still populated, and it was because of a cross-state ARPD case that I came to SA:MP. :)
Always watch the people you give money to, if you're helping them get started. :)
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Recently I sat and wondered many things... among of them, once subject has been the money in SA-MP!
Do we need them? Do they help us at something? What do we gain by them? Why is it worth keeping them?
You see, imagine its a theatre, imagine you're playing the role of a knight, What would you wear? what would you carry?
Some years ago, Roleplay was fun, but also poor in SAMP, Things are getting advanced, now there are new tools, new features that help you roleplay correctly.
Now In Argonath RPG, are those tools for free?
No, because lets say you would like to start your own Italian Family, What do you need to fulfill the norms of an Italian Mafia?!
You need a very luxirious Mansion = $$$
You might need a Casino or a Bistro = $$$
You need a Limousine of your own = $$$
You need to supply guns for your members = $$$
For some of you, players who doesnt do much in the server, especially admins who are mostly busy with their tasks, doesnt make an italian mafia, they dont need the cash maybe, because they simply dont spend it or save it for plans.
Money my friend has a meaning, In Real Life its even worse, how do you expect it to be less worse in a Virtual World?
GTA San Andreas is a game.
GTA San Andreas Multiplayer is also a game, but you could play with real persons.
Argonath RPG, isnt a dating service, its not a School. NO.
> Its a roleplay server, It is public, and has some kind of freedom, that nobody is forced to roleplay, which means you can chat, you can make friends, you can drive a car, you can play with cops, you can shoot, you can buy things ($). Do not forget that you are still playing a game, and if you search for the real meaning of a game, youll find that Stats and Achievements also count.
You see as the example above, you cannot roleplay a Don, with a bat and a Towtruck because its a stat vehicle.
Yes, you can help players, new or old. But help is limited, they're here to play, and so you are. You can help them in million different ways, not with money, because giving them money will just make them lazy bastards who wont be able to roleplay in general after all.
Please this is like a disease, there was never something called " Moneyhungry " in Argonath RPG, its just a kind of words players use as an excuse or as a power to show they're really helping and making efforts etc.. But of course not everyone, there are players who really mean, TheRock certainly, which i respect him for that.
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Why share, I'm sure some day the ''new people'' will be happy when they have 3 million argodollars made all by themselfs.
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Thanks Seether.
But how to do this when nobody helps them? Don't tell me from Scripted Jobs... Scripted jobs are just for RP mostly... or people who use them.. and go on cop duty, medic duty, fireman duty, hooker or driver duty.. just do it for money... There are only a few people out there who enjoy the RP Jobs & do them without having target the money..
Don't tell me that the jobs offer much... Cop; max 600, Medic.. like Max 120 on a person.. Fireman max is like 3,500 but it's kinda boring to see your self dying cause of the explosions ;P Driver is low also.. only if it happens and you find a good client which gives more than the /setfee..
I did not ask you to give your all money to them.. What I try to get you realize here is that, Beeing social & helpful to others.. even if you give them 2k... even thought help is small.. your effort to help others & make them happy is big enough ;)
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This sounds like it's serious,why do we need to serius topics? Just enter the server,play no need for stuff like this.
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I got 2 vehicles.. I don't need any more, the rest of the cash I got atm (900k) I just give away to my friends who play here for about 2 months and who needs them.. If I win something in an event I already spent it in a few hours on fun. When I was an newbie, played for about 4 months, money was everything for me. After I had everything that I could own with scripts I was bored, I noticed that I just came into the server for an hour to drive around, be suspect, get killed, and so each day, that's one of the reasons I left, I gave all my money away, now IRL I got my grades up, fixed problems and more, I returned and now, in a few weeks earned about a million again on events. And guess what, after 1 week it was already gone, I gave it to friends as stated above who are new and really need it, Edvard_Collins for example, I don't care for money anymore at all, just to have fun with TCL, Araatus and all the other players.
This sounds like it's serious,why do we need to serius topics? Just enter the server,play no need for stuff like this.
I think you didn't understand it. Read again carefully.
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And I will say it once again,
Simply giving new players money to "help them" will make them lazy and not know how to really earn money, thus creating beggars.
Show them some RP and get them to RP then give them money as a form of "reward".
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If you want to help players, teach em the basics of Argonath RPG, how to do this and how to do that. Help them know about the rules and regulations, help them " Get Started ", the other part should be from their own effort, let him be a player of his own values.
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If you want to help players, teach em the basics of Argonath RPG, how to do this and how to do that. Help them know about the rules and regulations, help them " Get Started ", the other part should be from their own effort, let him be a player of his own values.
Now that saunds right,if you want to help them train them,giving money away will NOT solve anything.
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Everybody should decide what to do with their own money, but giving it to new players who are a day old and who use it for weps, just a waste of time and money.
As for the rest.. What Panda said! :)
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@All above; I mostly give away money when an new player was abused by some freecop or when he's in minus (only for friends)
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Shit, Why do you think I am broke now? All i used to do was give out Cash to random people and make events.
I had almost 2 Mil, and i gave it all away and used it to start events. Not I am down to 150K.
Money has never been a priority for me, Maybe because i used to have a lot of it. Even now when I am down to a smaller amount, I never use it like that. Hell, I own 1 car, no House or Business. After my house was removed i never got one, My business was given to JEmerson ,Which he owes me 500K from that, But since he is banned I won't get it back ;). But the point is, Money is not needed to play here. I am a breathing example of that.
I get by fine without it.
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Shit, Why do you think I am broke now? All i used to do was give out Cash to random people and make events.
I had almost 2 Mil, and i gave it all away and used it to start events. Not I am down to 150K.
Money has never been a priority for me, Maybe because i used to have a lot of it. Even now when I am down to a smaller amount, I never use it like that. Hell, I own 1 car, no House or Business. After my house was removed i never got one, My business was given to JEmerson ,Which he owes me 500K from that, But since he is banned I won't get it back ;). But the point is, Money is not needed to play here. I am a breathing example of that.
I get by fine without it.
Please talk about yourself, ive already mentioned it, it varies from players goals and roles. You're a cop right? You for example dont need money, but a Mobster does.
This thing about giving away your cash and being so helpful, doing events etc.. doesnt make you genereous, you said it yourself.
And yes you do not give a damn about having a house or a business, because you simply do not use a house or business, you spend most of your time driving a free police cruiser, with free Deagle and a spray can, its like 10% i see you off duty, stading at Pershing square. No offense but as i said, everyone has his own purpose, and you're not everyone.
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Everybody should decide what to do with their own money, but giving it to new players who are a day old and who use it for weps, just a waste of time and money.
As for the rest.. What Panda said! :)
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that what i wanted to say, i gave a lot of money to new players, i mean friends they were new players at argonath, i gave them but after 3 hours asking me again, can you give a little more cash :) '' i asking them where you spent your money they telling me on weapons, asking him how you die, cops killing me didnt had chance to /gu please please, and why i should give them money for weapons ? and Rock ask your self is anyone gave you money when you started?
you should think that before make this topic, but what ever i am not against help to new players there is also /ask the new awesome command, which the new players can ask how to make money.
Also making lotto's or events or what ever? I will make an lotto, so whats up if someone old wins ? or event example?
And i really dont care if you think that i am selfish , but just to tell you, on start only one man helped me to get up Seether i was selling to him drugs and it was really fun, he gave me money, and i will give to him if he needs, but he got enough i guess and he dont ask me for that,
Though i waited this topic long time.
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Money is not needed to play here.
If you are a cop.
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If money is not a big deal in argonath, then the developers would spawn all new players with $1,000,000 in their Bank account. Many players sit on their asses and beg for money, instead of working for it. No one never gave me a handout. nor have I had to ask for one. I understand your point is to be generous or helpful to new players, but instead of giving them free money, we need to teach the players the concept of roleplaying so they can go out and make their own money. There is a saying that "if you give a man a fish, he eats for a day, but if you teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime."
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Teach the players the concept by making them earn money.
That means you should not teach them to be greedy and collect money.
What you should teach them is to give away money to people who help them, who work for them or just for fun.
When cops make money by arrest or jail, how often do they share with those who helped ? When someone is playing a bartender, how many people send him money regardless of there beng a script to buy drinks ? When someone gives you a ride, how many people give some moeny as thanks ?
If all players would start moving money, there would still be people who are rich and people who are not. But many people would have more fun, and make friends easier.
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The problem is, if it doesn't give you scripted money then people do it but if it is RP money then it won't turn around
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And yes you do not give a damn about having a house or a business, because you simply do not use a house or business, you spend most of your time driving a free police cruiser, with free Deagle and a spray can, its like 10% i see you off duty, stading at Pershing square. No offense but as i said, everyone has his own purpose, and you're not everyone.
Please don't make this in a cop-criminal discussion.. :(
Besides that, I understand all your points. Money should be given away as a reward for the work someone did. I am currently saving money to pay my (daily) newspaper employees in the future when it is up and running.
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Please talk about yourself, ive already mentioned it, it varies from players goals and roles. You're a cop right? You for example dont need money, but a Mobster does.
This thing about giving away your cash and being so helpful, doing events etc.. doesnt make you genereous, you said it yourself.
And yes you do not give a damn about having a house or a business, because you simply do not use a house or business, you spend most of your time driving a free police cruiser, with free Deagle and a spray can, its like 10% i see you off duty, stading at Pershing square. No offense but as i said, everyone has his own purpose, and you're not everyone.
I used to be a criminal, for like the first 4-5 months i was here i was a criminal. I didn't need money then, Didn't need it now. You and Panda are both right though, Police do have less things needed to purchase which is why less money is spent. But nevertheless, Money is still not needed for everything.
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Please do not turn this topic into a criminal vs cop requirements... Stay within the topic theme !
Gandalf has a good point.. just like give a fish to man, he'll eat for a day.. teach him to fish and he'll have to eat.
Teach players how to earn cash and they'll be making cash whenever they want.. instead of giving them & make them want to collect more..
Sometimes both things are good.. small donations (once in a while, not every day to get used) & teach.. :)
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Then i have a splendid idea.
Admins+, gtfo with your paydays/lottos/other shit which gives money VIA scripts.
Old players, make up a business, get workers and start RPing a business corporation. Maybe then there'll be more fun....
Instead of doing events, have real fun by RPing, not by eventing. After all, RPG server.
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Please do not turn this topic into a criminal vs cop requirements... Stay within the topic theme !
Gandalf has a good point.. just like give a fish to man, he'll eat for a day.. teach him to fish and he'll have to eat.
Teach players how to earn cash and they'll be making cash whenever they want.. instead of giving them & make them want to collect more..
Sometimes both things are good.. small donations (once in a while, not every day to get used) & teach.. :)
You were the one who first said just donating money to the poor and new is a good thing, and now you are saying teach them aswell, So your thoughts have now changed I see..
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Well i don't need cash either,i got 13k and i can live with them,even if i get a minus 1 million soon
-Hwaldar
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MadBoi, people change :)
Both are good ideas :) just not donate constantly and so soon o.O
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Please don't make this in a cop-criminal discussion.. :(
Please do not turn this topic into a criminal vs cop requirements... Stay within the topic theme !
Police do have less things needed to purchase which is why less money is spent. But nevertheless, Money is still not needed for everything.
If somebody is turning this topic into a cop vs criminals topic, its you guys, nobody mentioned anything about that, everything was within the topic, and that is a fact, and a good example, do not go far with your meanings please. :)
To let you know, giving away your money for no reason, simply " Like that " to new players, isnt really helping. Its not different from cheating. Cause after all, its all Easy Money - No Effort.
Anyway, Gandalf said it all, hope you guys understand what he said correctly and avoid words like: " Money Hungry " thrown randomly on Main chat.
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If somebody is turning this topic into a cop vs criminals topic, its you guys, nobody mentioned anything about that, everything was within the topic, and that is a fact, and a good example, do not go far with your meanings please.
Ok, Bye.
Players care to much about money. Which will result in moaning and other things. It would be damn nice if most of the money circulates though rp businesses and other stuff related with rp. But sadly that is not how it works and how it never will work... But there should be atleast a little bit more rp jobs.
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Then i have a splendid idea.
Admins+, gtfo with your paydays/lottos/other shit which gives money VIA scripts.
Old players, make up a business, get workers and start RPing a business corporation. Maybe then there'll be more fun....
Instead of doing events, have real fun by RPing, not by eventing. After all, RPG server.
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Nobody gave me cash when I was new, I had to EARN my cash with WORKING on the dirty streets!
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Giving roleplay jobs to newcommers is great, you start with something easy, and then you're doing it harder and harder.
At the end, they are ready to move on and use their own heads ;)
This is also a great method to make friends, trust me.
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Lottos, events and paydays are quite active on the server, so a new, active player can be quite rich in a couple of days. We're just like the new guys, except for that we have a little bit more experience in the server than them. If we need money, we work(jobs, events etc). Not everyone are richies.
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what i have found useful and when i think about it kinda jacked up in a way, but when new players jion the server and im on hduty, ill PM them and arrive @ airport and pick them up, then i will take them around to stores to get cellphone,radio, etc and show them basic locations and jobs, and i often will give them $2,500 up front and /wire about $5k to $10k to there bank, but when it hink about it, how many of them have i seen days later lol ...