Argonath RPG - A World of its own

GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: [SE]Dr_Pepper27 on June 16, 2010, 04:13:26 am

Title: What can you role play?
Post by: [SE]Dr_Pepper27 on June 16, 2010, 04:13:26 am
When I saw the name 'Argonath RPG' I knew it was a role play server..

Today, I saw a speeding blue car, I attempted a traffic stop and followed the subject to the Temple pay n spray. He later pulled over in Temple. He got out of his car, M4 in hand. I commanded him to drop his weapon and he took out a pistol. He aimed at me, I didn't fire, although I should have. I guess at some point, he did /showbadge, but I wanted to roleplay and not go 'OMG blue name, o u kop, i leave nao' like a retarded faggot. I ignore names and blimps alike. He got back in his car as an FBI agent in a Rancher showed up lights and siren. The subjct took off in his car to the pay n spray and I followed commanding him to pull over as it wasn't worth it. Then he suspected me for aiming at a federal agent. How would I know. I drove off, trying to cool down, they shot my car as Deputy Chief and LT. Vince and Ben Samiir showed up. My car blew up, I stood there, explaining to them I was only trying to roleplay. Apparently, =AV=Deejay ordered FBI agent =AV=Lennie_B to shoot a standing still suspect. He followed orders.I'm highly disappointed in them, but I need to know, what can I role play

Serious police officer
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: Chase on June 16, 2010, 04:20:45 am
For your nametag complaining - Roleplay doesn't mean real life roleplay.

As for everything else.. You have three choices

1. F8, post here: http://fbi.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?board=5.0 (http://fbi.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?board=5.0)
2. If you can't do that, deal with it.
3. If you can't deal with it, find another server.

Oh and btw I don't think SA:MP General means "Complaint section" in english.


Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: [SE]Dr_Pepper27 on June 16, 2010, 04:24:36 am
For your nametag complaining - Roleplay doesn't mean real life roleplay.

As for everything else.. You have three choices

1. F8, post here: http://fbi.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?board=5.0 (http://fbi.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?board=5.0)
2. If you can't do that, deal with it.
3. If you can't deal with it, find another server.

Oh and btw I don't think SA:MP General means "Complaint section" in english.
Love you too.

This is a role play server. I was roleplaying. I am deeply sorry for trying too.
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: Chase on June 16, 2010, 04:31:29 am
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roleplaying - (also RP, role-playing) is a game or exercise where the participants assume the roles of characters and collaboratively improvise to create stories.
If you understand proper english, you could see it says nothing in there about acting as if in real life, which you tried to do.

If Argonath was strictly a roleplay server, the name would have 'real life' contained in it. And even better... nametags would be disabled like in the 1000432454554 real life servers out there.

While yes, you can roleplay however you want.. with such rules as to ignore nametags, don't try to enforce it on others who don't roleplay in such strict style.

Here's something for you to read closely: http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=38482.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=38482.0)

Read it all the way if you wanna know what the hell I am talking about. If you still think the term roleplay means it has to be as if real-life, then do us all a favor and /q.

Need I say more? Because I wont argue with you further as that link gives you all the facts every argonath player should know.
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: [SE]Dr_Pepper27 on June 16, 2010, 04:33:29 am
If I was just pushing role play, why couldn't anyone just go /me opens up their coat, exposing their badge.
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: Chase on June 16, 2010, 04:38:32 am
If you're not gonna read and listen... I will not participate in a sterile debate. Everything I said is all you need to know as to what went wrong.

Goodbye.
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: Jubin on June 16, 2010, 04:43:35 am
Chase calm down, I know the situation he described has some of your babies in it, but still calm down. He didn't say he wants "leet-half-assed-real-life-die-and-leave-the-server" Argonath RPG. He is just dissapointed how that situation turned out.

But to finally answer your question- you can role play whoever, whatever you want in Argonath, if you want role play different "why did chicken crossed the road" jokes go ahead, but you have to understand, but many may not understand it right away, For some reason I also think that in this situation there was just some misunderstandings.
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: EminemRulez on June 16, 2010, 08:54:17 am
Yes Chase, relax :)

Yes, you can go RPing whatever you want, however you like....
Knowing the fact that newcommers who decides to follow laws track always look up into FBI and SWAT and high ranked cops (( Officer+ )).
Building up on the statement above, I think there should be more roleplay from FBI agents in order to build up a strong team in SAPD/ARPD.
What I've seen, many good cops who are pretty fun to roleplay with but in constrast I've seen those who only come for shooting - Like.... A cop stops someone at a routine traffic stop or even who suspect directly for speeding, they usually persuit the criminals - When the criminal is barricated you might see many 'high-ranked' cops comming for shooting-only, which in my opnion, shouldn't be the procedure.
Once I was doing a kidnap, I was still learning roleplay, but I remember freecops comming inside the property throwing smoke granades( /me throws a smoke granade...etc ) and they rescued the hostage successfully only using their creativity.
That's why I'll be a freecop forever  :lol:.

Regards.
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: Que on June 16, 2010, 09:02:20 am
I feel ya, brother.
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: Aksel on June 16, 2010, 09:34:22 am
When I felt when I red your text Pepper, was that this thread is indeed based on moan. The only way you can win something out of this is to report it on the FBI forum, not here. Remember to involve evidence with the report, so it will be easier for the higher ranked to do their actions.

Have a nice day further.
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: EminemRulez on June 16, 2010, 01:31:51 pm
When I felt when I red your text Pepper, was that this thread is indeed based on moan. The only way you can win something out of this is to report it on the FBI forum, not here. Remember to involve evidence with the report, so it will be easier for the higher ranked to do their actions.

Have a nice day further.

I don't think he wants the FBI agent to get demoted/fired. I think he's only opening a discussion about the actual issues on the server in order to find a good way to bypass them.
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: Altair_Carter on June 16, 2010, 04:35:34 pm
What i can say is, Chase, you're deep wrong. I won't tell why, because

1) You won't listen and say I'm wrong.
2) You'll still defend your FBI mates

And
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If you're not gonna read and listen... I will not participate in a sterile debate.

Group flaming is not allowed here -battle
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: SafetyMoose on June 16, 2010, 05:34:39 pm
Chase the fact that you dont give a rats ass about the situation is sad. Honeslty people need to talk about their problems instead of going "OMG idc send pics here plox"

I mean really....
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: [SE]Dr_Pepper27 on June 16, 2010, 05:52:03 pm
I don't think he wants the FBI agent to get demoted/fired. I think he's only opening a discussion about the actual issues on the server in order to find a good way to bypass them.
Exactly. Both FBI agents are close friends, I've known them both for over a year(I think).
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: Zesse on June 16, 2010, 06:15:42 pm
Be in that situation yourself and you would be pissed off aswell. Atleast i would be. The thing i hate the most is that many cops shoot standing still suspects without even asking for surrender.
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: EminemRulez on June 16, 2010, 06:32:10 pm
What i can say is, Chase, you're deep wrong. I won't tell why, because

1) You won't listen and say I'm wrong.
2) You'll still defend your FBI mates

And
Also, If the story is true, then it seems that some newbies roleplay as thrice as better than FBI.... shame
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Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: Altair_Carter on June 16, 2010, 10:03:56 pm
They're just following the wrong role-models...
Freecops are way more roleplayble than properly FBI. Why? Because they're simply alot more of people with strong power of will.
Indeed.
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: Mikro on June 16, 2010, 10:47:05 pm
Chase the fact that you dont give a rats ass about the situation is sad. Honeslty people need to talk about their problems instead of going "OMG idc send pics here plox"

I mean really....

I am sure he did looked further into this, but he can't just simply take this as a report and punish our members. Complaints (if this was an "official" complaint) on the Argonath main forums are more seen as moan and provoking since they poke other people to also go scream. We want to avoid that such situations are getting blown up. Report/complaints on the FBI forums are being reviewed very serious. There are various cases known which resulted in a punishment or even demotion to cadet or civilian.

You need to realize that we got really a lot rules and procedures. A lot are written and also a lot are not even written but told one on one. Our members got a great knowledge of those rules, but sometimes it is hard to follow them all at the same time, which can lead to misunderstandings or failing to follow the rules.

And yes, we do protect our members to a certain level. FBI is for a big part build on trust. We don't want to flame or accuse each other when there is not much information about the situations. Such things can only be solved with a (friendly) talk. We are always trying to investigating the situations and reviewing everything without hasty actions.



Personally I am always trying to role-play as much as is possible and reasonable. When it is not really needed, I will not shoot. I am getting sad of cops AND criminals who shoot directly and always need to show their gun. Most of the the times I see lack of role-play from both sides. I know, that is just unavoidable, but normally I am trying to work around it and try to provoke them to role-play.

Shooting on a standing still suspect is not disallowed, it only requires a direct threat from the suspect. When the suspect is aiming a gun while not shooting, he can be killed since it is a direct threat and a serious danger for the cops. If the suspect already killed a cop and is classified as very dangerous, he can expect being shot when standing still with a gun in his hands. The shot must only not be a shot to death, since the direct threat was not that high.



tl;tr
Hi! I try to RP and have fun!
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: Daco on June 17, 2010, 02:39:55 pm
tl;tr

Watch you're tone on the forums -battle
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: Altair_Carter on June 17, 2010, 07:05:16 pm
Removed
*snip* you cancer
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: Daco on June 17, 2010, 07:12:48 pm
*snip* you cancer

lol
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: Swampert on June 17, 2010, 08:01:39 pm
*snip* you cancer

Uneeded post of picture -battle
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: Leon. on June 17, 2010, 10:22:53 pm
Chase the fact that you dont give a rats ass about the situation is sad. Honeslty people need to talk about their problems instead of going "OMG idc send pics here plox"

I mean really....
This is why Mr. Moose is more accomplished than many people I know in real life.
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: tiderman on June 18, 2010, 01:07:27 pm
*snip*
only newfags say newfag
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: JDC on June 18, 2010, 02:42:30 pm
Also, If the story is true, then it seems that some newbies roleplay as thrice as better than FBI.... shame

How nice of you to say that Fernando, Chase, Jaaskaa, Sammir, Trobby, myself, and all the other esteemed FBI members have roleplay skills equal to a third of that which the newbies possess.



Anyways, Chase pretty much posted almost everything I wanted to say. By the way, people shouldn't believe malarkey such as this,

2) You'll still defend your FBI mates

since we have an Internal Affairs board (which is not just composed of Fernando, Chase, and Jaaskaa, but also of other personnel) whose goal it is to decide on complaints in a bias-free manner. If you have problems with an Agent, don't hesitate to post a complaint (assuming you're not going to post total BS, since we will dignify that with a forum ban instead of an actual answer).



Anyways, if the topic name is basically what the topic is about, then I can RP an FBI Agent, a freecop, an Archbishop, a pancake salesman, a food salesman, a salesman of almost anything else, a street hobo, and about anything under the sun as long as it does not violate Server and FBI rules.
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: Jubin on June 18, 2010, 03:49:52 pm
JDC, I dare you to role play authentical Quantum Physicist near me. :)
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: JDC on June 18, 2010, 03:57:54 pm
...and about anything under the sun...

Crap. I can try that, but I won't be able to succeed at the authentic part... I'll have to wait until I study physics :neutral: xD
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: [SE]Dr_Pepper27 on June 18, 2010, 05:22:04 pm
This topics turned into "i hate fbi, they no rp!!!1"

Why. They CAN RP and they DO RP...



Also, what the fuck's with the 'i can rp better than a newbie'. In my eyes, newbies are the EXACT same as EVERY player on the WHOLE server. They are the same as you, yes, YOU, mr. i've played here a year, i'm cool, mr. i can rp, mr. new players suck, mr. mod/admin.

Please........
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: newguy on June 18, 2010, 06:06:12 pm
Why did you add mods/admins?
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: [SE]Dr_Pepper27 on June 18, 2010, 06:11:53 pm
they're no different, they just have the admin powers. It doesn't give them rights to go "im admin i dont have 2 rp, noob,  lololol'
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: Rusty on June 18, 2010, 07:39:33 pm
they're no different, they just have the admin powers. It doesn't give them rights to go "im admin i dont have 2 rp, noob,  lololol'

What's wrong with admins saying they don't want to roleplay, maybe they're busy with a report(s) or other stuff.  If they have a red name you shouldn't try roleplay with them as they're doing admin work.  Though if they ain't on aduty and just tell you to piss off then that's a whole other story that's them just being ignorant.
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: -Seven on June 18, 2010, 07:57:14 pm
What about /aduty to avoid roleplay, let's say I was going to kidnap CBFasi and he does /aduty?
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: JDC on June 19, 2010, 04:46:05 pm
What about /aduty to avoid roleplay, let's say I was going to kidnap CBFasi and he does /aduty?

You seriously forgot that CBFasi has more things to attend to than you think. How self-centered can you get? :trust:
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: Jubin on June 20, 2010, 11:58:24 am
What about /aduty to avoid roleplay, let's say I was going to kidnap CBFasi and he does /aduty?
All it takes for me, not to take part of kidnap roleplay is saying: "I am not in a mood of roleplaying kidnap right now".
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: Altair_Carter on June 20, 2010, 06:21:37 pm
How nice of you to say that Fernando, Chase, Jaaskaa, Sammir, Trobby, myself, and all the other esteemed FBI members have roleplay skills equal to a third of that which the newbies possess.
How unnice of you to say that it ain't true. Or you think you're the professional roleplaying group? Please...

All what i see, outcoming from FBI, is that they shoot standing still and not complying suspects, attempting to lead 207 over SAPD and assaulting when SWAT is not available..

Post Merge: June 20, 2010, 06:22:50 pm

since we have an Internal Affairs board (which is not just composed of Fernando, Chase, and Jaaskaa, but also of other personnel) whose goal it is to decide on complaints in a bias-free manner. If you have problems with an Agent, don't hesitate to post a complaint (assuming you're not going to post total BS, since we will dignify that with a forum ban instead of an actual answer).

And in the end, no matter what violation was, it will be a simple warning or "talked with". Don't you find that ironic?


I said i'm not going to argue on this case since you won't try to understand what i mean and defend yourselves. As for why i think all that so, i have enough friends within FBI who tells me stories about you. And if you think i'll tell out their names...haha
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: Traser on June 20, 2010, 06:23:22 pm
Just use your Imagination :)
Title: Re: What can you role play?
Post by: Altair_Carter on June 20, 2010, 06:25:43 pm
Just use your Imagination :)
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