It's not 'advertising' if I'm discussing said server over CB with my friends, people who all know about that server.I got banned for it ^
I thought we got over this with AB, Omri's server and iKlipse's server....
If someone tries to convince you to leave Argonath and play on another server, do what I do. Tell them to get lost and report them.You're an admin :P You could deal the situation yourself, no need for reporting :razz:
I thought we got over this with AB, Omri's server and iKlipse's server....WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
You're an admin :P You could deal the situation yourself, no need for reporting :razz:
f**k you, Giac, Seriously. Stop talk shit about something you don't know.
If you will play on our servers, respect our players.
Nice avatar you got there JDC ;).Thanks, made it myself out of another avatar :)
As always Giac you still talk shit about everything as you just want to know everything. You should have learned by your parents that talking shit is not good.Relax a bit o.o
I guess I am not an Argonath player, as no one has tried to recruit me :(
I guess I am not an Argonath player, as no one has tried to recruit me :(
f**k you, Giac, Seriously. Stop talk shit about something you don't know.
Nice avatar you got there JDC ;).
As always Giac you still talk shit about everything as you just want to know everything. You should have learned by your parents that talking shit is not good.
f**k you, Giac, Seriously. Stop talk shit about something you don't know.
Omri just pissed off Aragorn o.O
Someone got banned for telling argos ip ingame LALThat's... unfortunate.
Uhm i used to script a server with some other players and i sometimes tell them to come to the server to help me with somethingThat can't be disallowed... Wouldn't surprise me if it was though
But they already know the IP and it is a private server
Is that allowed
Uhm i used to script a server with some other players and i sometimes tell them to come to the server to help me with somethingWhat are the plans with that server ? If you are scripting in order to make it public later than by asking players to help testing you are recruiting in a way.
But they already know the IP and it is a private server
Is that allowed
Would you consider the line "gLSRP" advertising another server, when it was in no way relevant to the discussion nor was it backed upPlayers are free to play where they want. If they want to invite their mates there is no reason for us to stop them.
by a conversation about other servers? If someone thinks another server sounds better than Argonath then why the hell would you want
to stop them having the fun they deserve. If someone starts a server and his IRL mate asks about it then they should get banned for that?
Seriously? What is seriously? That you have no idea what Giac talked about?
Omri got idea good... Otherwise he would not turn GiacJr's words totally wrong... GiacJr was not talking about some server of Omri and Iklipse (as Omri tried to turn it in answer)... But just named several servers who were recruiting Argonath players... And both servers were doing it...
So if you have no idea yourself - f**k you too... Stop talk shit about something you do not know...
Before I even pressed this topic I saw Dave posted last and I expected it to be a kinda reply that ALWAYS has to be with the owners. You really do enjoy licking thier asses, how deep did you tongue reach this time?. I'm not playing dumb or anything and I just laugh at you seriously, I don't know shit what you are talking about and if you want to talk with me about it then presentate what you got to say, give me solid proofs as I don't remember that.
Edit: Shove your f**king trust and development into RON's ass or some other dark place, I don't give a shit if you do trust me or not.. Dis is just so f**king pathetic. I just love it when Dave gotta get to RON's ass and constantly licking it, but hey what do I know? it might taste good after all, right Dave?.
RON, do you enjoy the service that Dave provide for your ass?
Before I even pressed this topic I saw Dave posted last and I expected it to be a kinda reply that ALWAYS has to be with the owners. You really do enjoy licking thier asses, how deep did you tongue reach this time?. I'm not playing dumb or anything and I just laugh at you seriously, I don't know shit what you are talking about and if you want to talk with me about it then presentate what you got to say, give me solid proofs as I don't remember that.- banned for hacking on Argonath 3 times
This gives out a message that you are urging others to leave with you. If its your mates, you can tell in PM or CB, or on MSN once you logged out. To let everyone know is advertising.That means my ban reason was invalid, for advertising, when all I did was saying a server name in a CB, informing that I am going there to play...*looks at Frank Hawk*.
Hahah, quite amusing that you guys have to bring my history here as we CLEARLY did talk about recruitment of other servers. Is that your presentation of "me" and Iklipse or what ever server?? 00 for that one..Regarding the hacking on Paruni showed exactly which hacks you used. I informed Indigo about them as I managed to find it. Your superior hearing skills were hacks and it is plain funny how you still deny it.
-Hacked on Argonath 3 times? - I remember Weapon Hacking - Jump Hacking - Now you tell me the last one
-Banned for hacking on Paruni - If you had some CS experience you would have seen the demo I uploaded that there is NO sold proof that I did use wallhacks, and if you look closer in this you will see people replies and they quick lost interest in it as there was no proofs me hacking. You may remove dat one ;)
- Yes
-Yes
-Yes
-Yes
-Yes
Yea, I need more evidence of the server that "me" and iKlipse runned or own or what ever you say..
That means my ban reason was invalid, for advertising, when all I did was saying a server name in a CB, informing that I am going there to play...*looks at Frank Hawk*.There is always a thing about how you say things....
Thats why I still prefer those "tl;dr" rulebooks, so we do not get banned for such stuff...
Although I got unbanned, It is still disgusting getting banned for admin self-enjoyment nowadays. :mad:
/setrage off...
Regards.
There is always a thing about how you say things....Infact, I did not find "i am going to play XXXX for a bit, sick of some bullshit" offensive, when you are actually mad about something... What I mean is, is it enough for a instant ban? In a CB channel? A private chat which is not supposed to be watched and getting instant banned with no warning at all...
Thats how you deal with situtations? Just ban the guy, it's the easiest way I see..Ah you got off lucky! I was seeking a ban on you. Shame.
Got enough of all this shit, you can ban me if you want but before that, presentate me this situtation as I don't know or don't remember it quite well..
Giac, hahahahaha..
Before I even pressed this topic I saw Dave posted last and I expected it to be a kinda reply that ALWAYS has to be with the owners. You really do enjoy licking thier asses, how deep did you tongue reach this time?. I'm not playing dumb or anything and I just laugh at you seriously, I don't know shit what you are talking about and if you want to talk with me about it then presentate what you got to say, give me solid proofs as I don't remember that.
Edit: Shove your f**king trust and development into RON's ass or some other dark place, I don't give a shit if you do trust me or not.. Dis is just so f**king pathetic. I just love it when Dave gotta get to RON's ass and constantly licking it, but hey what do I know? it might taste good after all, right Dave?.
RON, do you enjoy the service that Dave provide for your ass?
Loyalty?, says the guy that also has been hacked while in R* same as I did. In my eyes, you pledged loyalty to the rights and not to the people.. Licked his ass?, hahaha you don't know shit about it and I truly wish you knew something about how me and Snipatore stand. Drama at the highschool, go discuss with yourself, i'm not in the mood for some bad guyin because some members has WAAAAY much in thier sparetime..Unlike you, Dave took his punishment and sticked to the community. Instead of developing a hatred for those who call the BS and playing the eternal victim he manned up and understood the message.
Loyalty?, says the guy that also has been hacked while in R* same as I did. In my eyes, you pledged loyalty to the rights and not to the people.. Licked his ass?, hahaha you don't know shit about it and I truly wish you knew something about how me and Snipatore stand. Drama at the highschool, go discuss with yourself, i'm not in the mood for some bad guyin because some members has WAAAAY much in thier sparetime..
OH... MY... GOD!!!! :alert" :wow: :m4: :flame: :sig: :wow: :alert" :pop:
BREAKING NEWS
Edit: Shove your f**king trust and development into RON's ass or some other dark place, I don't give a shit if you do trust me or not.. Dis is just so f**king pathetic. I just love it when Dave gotta get to RON's ass and constantly licking it, but hey what do I know? it might taste good after all, right Dave?.
RON, do you enjoy the service that Dave provide for your ass?
Yeah, the same old Omri... Why were you crying for unban on Argonath? I suppose, for more shit to put... But sad to say - your time here is finishing... And unban request will be accepted now only after my agreement... So wanna back? Be a man, have a balls and ask an unban from Aragorn, and do not run to Gandalf with the stories about changed asshole...
What a pathetic try to accuse every my friend in ass kissing... I suppose, Omri has no idea what is friendship and thinks that it is licking asses to every boy around him not for being lonely (smile with tears, ***mick mick***)
:cry:
I would certainly like to see what happens if Omri asks an unban from Aragorn. :neutral:
Players are free to play where they want. If they want to invite their mates there is no reason for us to stop them.
It is different to constantly mention other servers in public chat, or to tell in public chat you are going there. This gives out a message that you are urging others to leave with you. If its your mates, you can tell in PM or CB, or on MSN once you logged out. To let everyone know is advertising.
"LSRP"
| EDIT2: LSRP abreviation is not always related to that place... "Land Surveyor Reference Page" "Licensed Site Remediation Professional" There are much more, you can not just instant ban a player for saying LSRP as it might refer to MANY other things even out of SA. So yeah, I can say Land Surveyor Reference Page(LSRP) is good... Instant banning for that reason, my kind sir, is insane! | (http://solreka.com/blog/wp-content/i_want_change.jpg) |
Oh shi.... You said the L word man... You will stay banned if you go like that :hah:
EDIT: The more you ban people for saying words like "gLSRP" like accidentaly, the more people know about it, that is even more advertising, isn't it?
I seriously don't know how this conversation developed, not having any attachments to the original title.
And Lyrical has a strong point, there.
Another thing, as I've read through posts, the diversion from the theme was excellent, what has Omri's bans do with recruiting new players?
Starting from you Dave, why do you need to bring up his times banned on server? It was totally unnecessary. He said "f**k you" or something?
Deal with it, don't reply. There is an example on how do you treat a specific player.
It does count. Clearly, as it proves he cannot change. He has been banned from any sort of development or admin work on any server related to ParUni or Argonath. I can easily bring it up, because I was one of the admins on both communties that took part in the discussions, on here as a Main Admin, and on Parallel Universe as a Server Leader. I'm not just a player, or a SA:MP admin. I'm a veteran and experienced admin, I have a different outlook on this community than most, as I have seen it grow. To be honest, i've grown with it. But, Void, some things may never be forgotten. Look at what ab done to Argonath. What Omri and iKlipse were doing could have resulted in a similar senario.
A specific player? Why should he get any respect from anyone? He has had a large number of bans, mostly for the same reasons. He does not respect anyone, the players, the admins nor the owners. Why should anyone give him respect? If you as much as slightly respect him, then you are blind.
I'm blind, and you still don't get it. He should still get that much respect from you not to mire his past on a topic with 1000th title.
And for the rest of you. You like LSRP so f**king much? Go play on it and stop staying around here....but, keep in mind, even out biggest enemies have trouble keeping away. Isn't that right Seifer? Either you shut the f**k up about Argonath not being comparable to LSRP and get on with playing the game, or we show you the door. Argonath =/= LSRP. We are not a RL RP community, or server...read the motto. "A world of its own."
Learn it an understand it, we're not a copycat RP server like the other 500 that are out there.
Who said anything about liking LSRP? We just don't like the fact that at any moment we could be permenantly banned for saying the wrong thing... even when it's obvious it isn't in any way relating to what we were banned for saying.
Admins need to lighten up on here. You should give regulars a little respect.
We regularly get admins who are at the end of their patience and wish to give up.
The reason ? The constant disrespect and arguing from players.
Our admins did not take the job because they like to hand out punishment or to settle personal scores.
They do the job because they want to protect the server and improve things.
Every admin is a human, and if you will provoke them long enough they will punish you faster and harder than others. Also we feel that new players are in need of more patience and less punishment as regulars for breaking the rules. From the beginning the most active admins have gotten the most reports on them. Not because they are harsh or abusing, but because they attract the most attention.
We will begin "respecting" regulars when they begin to respect us....So you're admitting that you don't respect non-admin players?
So you're admitting that you don't respect non-admin players?
I respect most, although there are some I do not respect due to the above reasons I quoted.
People disrespect and Argue for reasons.
People disrespect and Argue for reasons. The admins on this server who look to help players absolve problems
rather than ban them to stfu are the admins that have the respect of the population. Admins who would rather
ban someone that attempt to solve the problem are the admins that have the least respect.
Those who likes "strict" RP is the biggest moaners here. Those who even need to use /me to show everyone that they are walking away...
A) What has Omri and AB done to Argonath, he never been associated with them nor iKlipse, then you tell me..
B) You demand respect by someone but you do not respect the man itself, how does that connect together?
You still don't get it. We have tried. We have tried so hard to, but the players just refuse to learn. An admin's patience lasts a very long time...my patience lasts a very long time.
Those admins that Gandalf spoke about, that are losing patience and are clsoe to quitting - i'll admit that i'm one of them. I'll admit that i'm ready to leave the community, not because of the changes in scripts, the server, the admin team. No. Changes in the community, changes in the attitude of players. As admins we do not have to go into the server and listen to a bunch of kids crying to us about this and that, we do not have to sit and take the abuse they throw at us, we do not have to put up with any of it. We are not paid, we are not rewarded. We do it out of our own time, our own will to help take the server forward. We get nothing out of being admins, but we do it anyway.
It's a game. Grow up and deal with it, and leave your "hatred" for other players, factions, sides and whatever else behind your keyboard.
I suggest this topic gets a lock, because now "Admins vs players" shit is going to surface.
I think everyone understands the conclusion of this topic. Use MSN or any other messaging service. Just don't use Argonath website, or while you play in the client.
A)ThanksOmri change that signature. You do not want your cousin to be banned due to your behaviour.
For
B)Answering
And saw your reply above, he cannot post anymore since he been banned
... The one who moans are power gamers and meta gamers. ...There doesn't exists power gaming and meta gaming in Argonath. Now you appoint anyone, who follow the Argonath vision and defending it, to moaner........
Who said anything about liking LSRP? We just don't like the fact that at any moment we could be permenantly banned for saying the wrong thing... even when it's obvious it isn't in any way relating to what we were banned for saying.You are correct, you can be banned at any moment for telling the wrong thing.
Admins need to lighten up on here. We chose to play here so why are you pushing us away with shit like this?
There doesn't exists power gaming and meta gaming in Argonath. Now you appoint anyone, who follow the Argonath vision and defending it, to moaner........
Why do you people even bother to come here if you dislike it so much? 3 years ago when people did like YOU guys are doing they got ban immediatly without any questions. So for your own sake either shut the hell up or leave.
That's the part of the vision. Does that mean that doesn't exist? No.
Read my post, seems you didn't read it quite well. I've explained Zaila's version of strict RP view.
Strict RP has knowledge of any RP situation and can confront obstacles given in the situation, and many inexperienced players can't do that.
Thus they use all kinds of terms to moan/Object RP or anything similar, leading to the unsatisfied RP parties ---> public chat moan.
If you say in main chat that you are going to another server, that can get you banned.Exactly...in MAIN CHAT.
Well those moaners can go back happily to their RL/Strict RP server then, can't they?
Exactly...in MAIN CHAT.
People is getting banned for mentioning names on CB, PM and even in MSN...And those who complain about it, or try to give opnion about it, get kicked or warned for moaning...
I haven't disputed that. You ban them, you unban them, you ban them, you unban them. Where does it go?
You kick them, you mute them .. they go rage quitting and return pissed off/frustrated on the server, and the process happens again.
Since Argonath got more players, publicity, you surely didn't think everything was going to be peachy?
That's the part of the vision. Does that mean that doesn't exist? No.Our vision is exactly opposite. Inexperienced players benefit from having a rat maze as they can not handle improvisation and freedom to play as they wish at the moment. Experienced players can react on any situation or remark without getting angry or confusing a game situation with real life.
Read my post, seems you didn't read it quite well. I've explained Zaila's version of strict RP view.
Strict RP has knowledge of any RP situation and can confront obstacles given in the situation, and many inexperienced players can't do that.
Thus they use all kinds of terms to moan/Object RP or anything similar, leading to the unsatisfied RP parties ---> public chat moan.
Once again I suggest a lock, as this topic with multiple conversations is going no where
Flooding the name in CB and PM to random people, yes.When I got banned, there were 1 person at the CB who played there aswell...
Flooding the name in CB and PM to random people, yes, that will get you banned. Possibley on MSN given the correct circumstances.
Actually, we have the same number of players ingame at once that we've always had, only gets busy at weekends or holidays. New people come, which is good. But when those people bring in ideas, concepts and ways of playing from other RP servers, believe me, it does clash and cause arguments...
It's not the server that has changed, it's the players.
Blame.... Aragorn. :D
Damn the guy who bring that word to the community :razz:
Blame.... Aragorn. :D:D Blamed.
Our vision is exactly opposite. Inexperienced players benefit from having a rat maze as they can not handle improvisation and freedom to play as they wish at the moment. Experienced players can react on any situation or remark without getting angry or confusing a game situation with real life.
Gandalf I believe I said that in a part of my sentence.To be honest I haven't seen a regular complain.
Another definition: Regulars aren't players who play 4-6 months, then those who actually know/coexist with the rules. Numbers/time don't matter at all!
You are correct, you can be banned at any moment for telling the wrong thing.
If you say in main chat you are using hacks, that can get you banned
If you say in main chat that one of the leaders is a piece of shit, that can get you banned.
If you say in main chat that you are going to another server, that can get you banned.
Don't like it ? Go to another server and see if they allow you to do those things there....
Then again, you must be blind, as we have to put up with them every minute we are present in the server.
Regulars are those who play for 4-6 months, those who keep comming back day after day - those are the regulars, and those are the people who are causing the most bother. Not the new players, not the hackers, not even the people from other communities.
Go look at the ban list....look how many regulars have been banned over the past 2-3 months. Banning is a last resort, we do not do it every day for simple rulebreaking, we only ban when the rulebreaking does not stop after tempbans, kicks, warns and even discussion.
Another definition: Regulars aren't players who play 4-6 months, then those who actually know/coexist with the rules. Numbers/time don't matter at all!
Read again, I gave you a definition of a regular player and you still mention me the NON regulars.
Dammit Dave, you really don't read posts.
Blame.... Aragorn. :D
I'm telling you the people who we see as regulars....
No, you are telling me of people who YOU(Not you as in singular) see as regulars. Until some undestand that regular is not a person that hangs around the forum posting, and coming IG to play, then someone who read and understood the rules. For example, I did an event "Capture the securicar"
Mumin and Cyril_Olaso won, by the way of shooting. Mumin car surfed and killed me. Is Mumin a regular? Yes because he apologized to me after that. He realized he broke a rule on the server.
Go re-read the definition of the word "Regular". You seem to be getting it confused with "Experienced".
Use your home dictionary.
Regular presents a person that has experience in a certain matter/position etc ....
In this matter, you cannot call yourself experienced if you play, shut introvert with a few people and moan about everything.
That is not the meaning of the word in the context we use it in.
We use it to mean someone who comes back repeatedly to the server/community. Take someone re-visiting a pub once a week, on the same day and time every week - he is a regular of that pub, just like how the players who return again and again are considered regulars by the administration team.
Seriously? What is seriously? That you have no idea what Giac talked about?
Omri got idea good... Otherwise he would not turn GiacJr's words totally wrong... GiacJr was not talking about some server of Omri and Iklipse (as Omri tried to turn it in answer)... But just named several servers who were recruiting Argonath players... And both servers were doing it...
So if you have no idea yourself - f**k you too... Stop talk shit about something you do not know...
He will have to apologize to every guy whom he flamed...That is very easy to apologize to Gandalf and not being really responsible for own actions in front of those whom he really flamed and hates...I like you.
What a warm welcome we're giving Aragorn, isn't it..?Just wait until Aragorn gets warmed up. :pop:
Just wait until Aragorn gets warmed up. :pop:
Yep. We're f**ked now.
There's always a first time. :lol:
Just wait until Aragorn gets warmed up. :pop:
This issue is being blown up to a million times the size it actually is...
Players are not showing enough respect to administrators? Right, then why do 99 percent of the players actually thank me when I do my job as administrator? No, before you say it, I offer more than free name changes. :)
How nice went to off-topic... The most funny - was blamed Dave and GiacJr...
"Don't like? Leave." That's like me putting my hands onto my ears and shout as hard as I can: "NENENENENENENENENENENENE".
No, before you say it, I offer more than free name changes. :)LOL
First off all, Show some Respect to The Community Owners and players. You guys need to know how the Server Deleovopers / Owners / Admins do, They are here for hours and hours just for you !, And ofcoruse you need to Show some Respect to Aragorn, why ?, He spends hours and hours Fixing / Paying / doing / Making For Our Community, Now if you Try and be a Smarty Pants and try off Disrespecting The Owners / Admins, I say 'leave' and find another Community that you think that will let you Flame / Disrespect the owners.Your passion for rear ends never ceases to astonish me.
Here, im going to write some things that will make you a Good player and Well Sportsmanship,
1. Read Argonath Rules
2. Respect Admins / Owners / Delovopers
3. Help players that are needed the Help
4. Be Nice / Kind / Friendly and you shall Achive and earn more New Experenice's in the Community
5. Moaning and Complainning about A player should go to, [email protected]
So please, once again show some Respect and Some good Sportsmanship To this Community. Let's make sure Its going to be Successful.
Your passion for rear ends never ceases to astonish me.
Your passion for rear ends never ceases to astonish me.
Your passion for rear ends never ceases to astonish me.
Yo Dave wassup.
Sup Jingle, my life time love.Whadd'up =AV=Jingle.
Whadd'up =AV=Jingle.
*[AK]Jingle :razz:I saw him using [YMG] tag once...
kevin want pedo????No thanks, I've got over 9000 in stock.
No advertising any server anywhere, PM, cb, local chat or anywhere...Is saying Glsrp allowed? :rofl:
Is saying Glsrp allowed?No... Didn't I write clear?
(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo262/zex6c/Untitled-1-38.png)LOL. You always raise my mood ;D
Your passion for rear ends never ceases to astonish me.So I see the old Russle who got banned for flaming Aragorn is still around
Or it could be locked,couldn't it? :redface:
No... Didn't I write clear?Just confused...
Sup Giac, missed me dawg? How's it going there riding those kangaroos?
LOL. You always raise my mood ;D
Just confused...
Let me see if I get this straight, you can get banned for saying words containing certain abreviations, even by accident, like he meant Glsrp and accidentaly said gLSRP?
Regards.
How can you say that accidentally?Example, you press caps lock at the wrong time, saying: SARPa instead of Sarpa or SARPA.
Just confused...Yes.
Let me see if I get this straight, you can get banned for saying words containing certain abreviations, even by accident, like he meant Glsrp and accidentaly said gLSRP?
Regards.
Yes.
You can get killed by a truck by accident too.
Get over it.
What are the plans with that server ? If you are scripting in order to make it public later than by asking players to help testing you are recruiting in a way.Its a small DM server that i play on with friends. Its not even hosted plus i only give the password to some of my friend
*[AK]Jingle
Just confused...
Let me see if I get this straight, you can get banned for saying words containing certain abreviations, even by accident, like he meant Glsrp and accidentaly said gLSRP?
Regards.
Why would anyone use the word GLRP
Yes.
You can get killed by a truck by accident too.
Get over it.
Yes.
You can get killed by a truck by accident too.
Get over it.
Good Luck Real Pal?
You can find thousands of words containing that abbreviation.
Sup Giac, missed me dawg? How's it going there riding those kangaroos?
How many are in constant and regular usage? None.
How many are in constant and regular usage? None.
Yes.Yeah, tough shit
You can get killed by a truck by accident too.
Get over it.
This topic reminds me of Santa Barbara. Damn, Marcy Walker was a sexy lady.This topic Reminds more to the Music of Justin Bieber,actually Compareable.Both Bulls**t :D