Recruitment to other servers.

[Gandalf]

A)Thanks
For
B)Answering

And saw your reply above, he cannot post anymore since he been banned

Omri change that signature. You do not want your cousin to be banned due to your behaviour.

[Mikro]

... The one who moans are power gamers and meta gamers. ...

There doesn't exists power gaming and meta gaming in Argonath. Now you appoint anyone, who follow the Argonath vision and defending it, to moaner........

[Gandalf]

Who said anything about liking LSRP? We just don't like the fact that at any moment we could be permenantly banned for saying the wrong thing... even when it's obvious it isn't in any way relating to what we were banned for saying.

Admins need to lighten up on here. We chose to play here so why are you pushing us away with shit like this?

You are correct, you can be banned at any moment for telling the wrong thing.

If you say in main chat you are using hacks, that can get you banned
If you say in main chat that one of the leaders is a piece of shit, that can get you banned.
If you say in main chat that you are going to another server, that can get you banned.

Don't like it ? Go to another server and see if they allow you to do those things there....

[DeeJay]

Why do you people even bother to come here if you dislike it so much? 3 years ago when people did like YOU guys are doing they got ban immediatly without any questions. So for your own sake either shut the hell up or leave.

[Void]

There doesn't exists power gaming and meta gaming in Argonath. Now you appoint anyone, who follow the Argonath vision and defending it, to moaner........

That's the part of the vision. Does that mean that doesn't exist? No.
Read my post, seems you didn't read it quite well. I've explained Zaila's version of strict RP view.
Strict RP has knowledge of any RP situation and can confront obstacles given in the situation, and many inexperienced players can't do that.
Thus they use all kinds of terms to moan/Object RP or anything similar, leading to the unsatisfied RP parties ---> public chat moan.

Once again I suggest a lock, as this topic with multiple conversations is going no where

[Dave]

Why do you people even bother to come here if you dislike it so much? 3 years ago when people did like YOU guys are doing they got ban immediatly without any questions. So for your own sake either shut the hell up or leave.

We did ban them immediatley. Most of the bans I made were not for hackers....they were for moaners, flamers and regulars...hundreds of them.

That's the part of the vision. Does that mean that doesn't exist? No.
Read my post, seems you didn't read it quite well. I've explained Zaila's version of strict RP view.
Strict RP has knowledge of any RP situation and can confront obstacles given in the situation, and many inexperienced players can't do that.
Thus they use all kinds of terms to moan/Object RP or anything similar, leading to the unsatisfied RP parties ---> public chat moan.

Well those moaners can go back happily to their RL/Strict RP server then, can't they?

[EminemRulez]

If you say in main chat that you are going to another server, that can get you banned.

Exactly...in MAIN CHAT.
People is getting banned for mentioning names on CB, PM and even in MSN...And those who complain about it, or try to give opnion about it, get kicked or warned for moaning...]

You might follow Argonath Vision, doing your best, but at the moment you say you do not agree with some of those principles, you are automaticly called a moaner.
Damn the guy who bring that word to the community :razz:

[Void]

Well those moaners can go back happily to their RL/Strict RP server then, can't they?

I haven't disputed that. You ban them, you unban them, you ban them, you unban them. Where does it go?
You kick them, you mute them .. they go rage quitting and return pissed off/frustrated on the server, and the process happens again.
Since Argonath got more players, publicity, you surely didn't think everything was going to be peachy?

[Dave]

Exactly...in MAIN CHAT.
People is getting banned for mentioning names on CB, PM and even in MSN...And those who complain about it, or try to give opnion about it, get kicked or warned for moaning...

Flooding the name in CB and PM to random people, yes, that will get you banned. Possibley on MSN given the correct circumstances.

I haven't disputed that. You ban them, you unban them, you ban them, you unban them. Where does it go?
You kick them, you mute them .. they go rage quitting and return pissed off/frustrated on the server, and the process happens again.
Since Argonath got more players, publicity, you surely didn't think everything was going to be peachy?

Actually, we have the same number of players ingame at once that we've always had, only gets busy at weekends or holidays. New people come, which is good. But when those people bring in ideas, concepts and ways of playing from other RP servers, believe me, it does clash and cause arguments...
It's not the server that has changed, it's the players.

[Gandalf]

That's the part of the vision. Does that mean that doesn't exist? No.
Read my post, seems you didn't read it quite well. I've explained Zaila's version of strict RP view.
Strict RP has knowledge of any RP situation and can confront obstacles given in the situation, and many inexperienced players can't do that.
Thus they use all kinds of terms to moan/Object RP or anything similar, leading to the unsatisfied RP parties ---> public chat moan.

Once again I suggest a lock, as this topic with multiple conversations is going no where

Our vision is exactly opposite. Inexperienced players benefit from having a rat maze as they can not handle improvisation and freedom to play as they wish at the moment. Experienced players can react on any situation or remark without getting angry or confusing a game situation with real life.

[EminemRulez]

Flooding the name in CB and PM to random people, yes.

When I got banned, there were 1 person at the CB who played there aswell...

[hr}
We play for fun, for some of us "FUN" is playing with all freedom possible, you PLAY whatever you want...
You can be a strict-RL-srsbsns roleplayer, the one who follow those strict rules, they do it FOR FUN, if they find fun playing that way, noone can judge them...
Some of us goes to Argonath to do things beyond the roleplay, like:
 - Chatting
 - Free roaming
 - Stunting
... Having fun at all.

At the time we stop critizing others way to RP and think, like I've seen many of you saying "Oh, I play here since 2007 so I am one of the best players here" and I honestly get amused by those veterans ego...
Summarying:
Play and let play.

If you want to follow Argonath Vision, fine, but don't talk shit about who follows another ways of playing... Please..

Best Regards.

[Void]

Flooding the name in CB and PM to random people, yes, that will get you banned. Possibley on MSN given the correct circumstances.
Actually, we have the same number of players ingame at once that we've always had, only gets busy at weekends or holidays. New people come, which is good. But when those people bring in ideas, concepts and ways of playing from other RP servers, believe me, it does clash and cause arguments...
It's not the server that has changed, it's the players.

I was talking about the player state of mind. I totally agree with you, but administrators as maintainers of rules, get compliments every now and then. You chose that profession, you decided to take a slice of spare time, you decided to benefit, and I'm sure many players are grateful to current staff. Don't never generalize, that's a message to others too, for example I come from LS-XX and I've adopted the ways of Argonath, as I've met many players did to. Moaners will always be. Its futile to resist. Only if you know a solution to please them all, which is impossible

Gandalf I believe I said that in a part of my sentence.To be honest I haven't seen a regular complain.
Another definition: Regulars aren't players who play 4-6 months, then those who actually know/coexist with the rules. Numbers/time don't matter at all!

[Gandalf]

Damn the guy who bring that word to the community :razz:

Blame.... Aragorn. 

[EminemRulez]

Blame.... Aragorn. 

Blamed.

[Dave]

Our vision is exactly opposite. Inexperienced players benefit from having a rat maze as they can not handle improvisation and freedom to play as they wish at the moment. Experienced players can react on any situation or remark without getting angry or confusing a game situation with real life.

To add to that - the jist of what you said to me in the admin forum:
Newer and younger players tend to extend their hate of factions, such as cops, into real life, meaning that to a certain extent they are really hating one another.

In this sense, I can name a few people that hate a few admins like as said above, and to be honest, these are the people that are making us quit. We go on witchhunts to search for regulars rulebreaking not being allowed? Regulars going witchhunting for an mistake an admin makes, even if their ban is valid. That....that should not be allowed.

You people want the administration to stop complaining and just quit? Fine by me. Try coping without us for a day...and see how long it takes you before you come crying to us about rulebreakers, hackers and the sort, then you might, just might, understand what we do on the server.

Gandalf I believe I said that in a part of my sentence.To be honest I haven't seen a regular complain.
Another definition: Regulars aren't players who play 4-6 months, then those who actually know/coexist with the rules. Numbers/time don't matter at all!

Then again, you must be blind, as we have to put up with them every minute we are present in the server.
Regulars are those who play for 4-6 months, those who keep comming back day after day - those are the regulars, and those are the people who are causing the most bother. Not the new players, not the hackers, not even the people from other communities.
Go look at the ban list....look how many regulars have been banned over the past 2-3 months. Banning is a last resort, we do not do it every day for simple rulebreaking, we only ban when the rulebreaking does not stop after tempbans, kicks, warns and even discussion.