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Title: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on February 10, 2011, 02:12:31 am: Hi, i am in-need of a new computer, so i have decided to smash up my old one with a hammer and create a new one straight from scratch.

My budget is 400 (GBP) and I may look to salvage and re-use parts from my old computer(s) - such as cables, memory ram, graphics card I am using at the moment.

"It's like building lego" - N.A
So, can someone help me with this scary quest?.

No clue where to start other then "Find motherboard then shit brix after realising it's not good".
I know there are many guides on interweb but I know if something goes wrong someone alive will be around here to help.

Any help will be welcome!
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: Driggz on February 10, 2011, 05:20:30 am: Your better off just getting a straight up new computer. If you wanna find quality parts its probably going to be around the same price. Unless you get a decent computer and upgrade the cpu ect.
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: Bilbo on February 10, 2011, 02:06:46 pm: Knowing what you currently have would be good to to start from...
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: Todor on February 11, 2011, 08:06:39 pm: Yup, as Icy said tell us what you have right now then what's your EXACT budget and what you plan on using the PC for.
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on February 11, 2011, 10:58:58 pm: Man I just buy: http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/hp-pavilion-p6675uk-07677418-pdt.html (http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/hp-pavilion-p6675uk-07677418-pdt.html)

K?
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: Fuzzy on February 11, 2011, 11:19:45 pm: Should go fine with most games but if you got any more money buy a new graphic card to that.
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: Leon. on February 12, 2011, 03:59:53 am: Get everything you want in order first. Make sure everything is compatible with each other. Put all links of parts you're going to buy somewhere (like a text file) and look over it. THEN buy all of the parts.
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: Shockk on February 12, 2011, 05:07:33 am: Quote from: [NP]Monte Montague on February 11, 2011, 10:58:58 pm
Man I just buy: http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/hp-pavilion-p6675uk-07677418-pdt.html (http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/hp-pavilion-p6675uk-07677418-pdt.html)

K?
If you want shitty quality parts and an integrated graphics card which will throw a hissy fit, k.
Do some research and build your own.

I've listed components that either match the capabilities of the HP PC or are better. Use this as reference only and check compatibility.
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173122 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173122) - RAM
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189741 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189741) - Graphics card
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804) - HDD
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176026 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176026) - Optical drive
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143854 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143854) - PC case
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176157 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176157) - CPU cooler
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/241000 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/241000) - PSU
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/166809 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/166809) - Wireless mouse and keyboard
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189292 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189292) - Motherboard
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/126410 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/126410) - Thermal compound
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/229999 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/229999) - CPU
http://www.software4students.co.uk/Microsoft_Windows_7_Professional_64_bit_Upgrade_Edition-details.aspx (http://www.software4students.co.uk/Microsoft_Windows_7_Professional_64_bit_Upgrade_Edition-details.aspx) - Legit W7

If you want to spend less, I'd recommend the AMD route.
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: Todor on February 12, 2011, 12:04:22 pm: Or an I3 and a GTX560 instead as graphics cards make the biggest difference in games but other than that Shockk has selected a pretty solid combo.
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: Jcstodds on February 12, 2011, 12:14:54 pm: Do NOT use any pcworld, currys, tesco etc - high street brands are very expensive!

www.ebuyer.com (http://www.ebuyer.com) is probably the cheapest way to get what you want.

However when I first built my PC, I used http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/ (http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/) .
Novatech has good value for money, but the thing you cannot beat is the service. They have probably the best support forum I have seen. You can post up what you want to buy and they will sort you out, give you reviews, advice and any other stuff.
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: Alarba on February 12, 2011, 03:19:21 pm: Quote from: Shockk on February 12, 2011, 05:07:33 am
If you want shitty quality parts and an integrated graphics card which will throw a hissy fit, k.
Do some research and build your own.

I've listed components that either match the capabilities of the HP PC or are better. Use this as reference only and check compatibility.
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173122 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173122) - RAM
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189741 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189741) - Graphics card
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804) - HDD
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176026 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176026) - Optical drive
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143854 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143854) - PC case
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176157 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176157) - CPU cooler
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/241000 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/241000) - PSU
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/166809 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/166809) - Wireless mouse and keyboard
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189292 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189292) - Motherboard
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/126410 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/126410) - Thermal compound
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/229999 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/229999) - CPU
http://www.software4students.co.uk/Microsoft_Windows_7_Professional_64_bit_Upgrade_Edition-details.aspx (http://www.software4students.co.uk/Microsoft_Windows_7_Professional_64_bit_Upgrade_Edition-details.aspx) - Legit W7

If you want to spend less, I'd recommend the AMD route.
I second that.
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on February 13, 2011, 12:00:24 am: Quote from: Shockk on February 12, 2011, 05:07:33 am
If you want to spend less, I'd recommend the AMD route.

Explain what is this AMD route. you speak of.

Also the "Legit" W7 upgrade is what I got from same site for my current PC and it's only an upgrade.

You own :D. Thanks for the above post, that is afforbdle but if there's another cheaper one I'd like to see that (then I can get a new screen too maybe, or ask my Dad but no man I adult now I must do it for myself).
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: Shockk on February 13, 2011, 12:34:51 am: Quote from: [NP]Monte Montague on February 13, 2011, 12:00:24 am
Explain what is this AMD route. you speak of.

Also the "Legit" W7 upgrade is what I got from same site for my current PC and it's only an upgrade.

You own :D. Thanks for the above post, that is afforbdle but if there's another cheaper one I'd like to see that (then I can get a new screen too maybe, or ask my Dad but no man I adult now I must do it for myself).
Pre-ordered my copy of W7 in 2009 for
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on February 13, 2011, 01:26:31 am: Quote from: Shockk on February 13, 2011, 12:34:51 am
Pre-ordered my copy of W7 in 2009 for

Ok then, but please explain what you meant by AMD route, what should I get ...
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: Shockk on February 13, 2011, 02:41:55 am: fucking homosex smf, the pound sign deleted my whole post. :cry:
I can't be bothered remembering what I typed, I'll reply tomorrow. :neutral:
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: Fuzzy on February 13, 2011, 09:05:34 am: Quote from: [NP]Monte Montague on February 13, 2011, 01:26:31 am
Ok then, but please explain what you meant by AMD route, what should I get ...
AMD is a another processor maker, usually with abit more cheaper compenents with not as great efficiency, but is a very good option too.
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on July 04, 2011, 08:14:00 am: Quote from: Shockk on February 12, 2011, 05:07:33 am
If you want shitty quality parts and an integrated graphics card which will throw a hissy fit, k.
Do some research and build your own.

I've listed components that either match the capabilities of the HP PC or are better. Use this as reference only and check compatibility.
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173122 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173122) - RAM
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189741 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189741) - Graphics card
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804) - HDD
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176026 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176026) - Optical drive
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143854 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143854) - PC case
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176157 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176157) - CPU cooler
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/241000 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/241000) - PSU
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/166809 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/166809) - Wireless mouse and keyboard
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189292 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189292) - Motherboard
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/126410 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/126410) - Thermal compound
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/229999 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/229999) - CPU
http://www.software4students.co.uk/Microsoft_Windows_7_Professional_64_bit_Upgrade_Edition-details.aspx (http://www.software4students.co.uk/Microsoft_Windows_7_Professional_64_bit_Upgrade_Edition-details.aspx) - Legit W7

If you want to spend less, I'd recommend the AMD route.

Epic. Posting on an old thread, but still considered this option for months, and until now.
But ofc components like PSU would be sold by now, but could I not go with a 550 w one instead?
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: Julio. on July 04, 2011, 10:38:10 am: Quote from: [NP]Monte Montague on July 04, 2011, 08:14:00 am
Epic. Posting on an old thread, but still considered this option for months, and until now.
But ofc components like PSU would be sold by now, but could I not go with a 550 w one instead?

If your PSU only just covers the power requirements of the computer, or is not quite powerful enough, it can damage the components in your computer.

More power = Better
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: Ted on July 04, 2011, 07:13:15 pm: On the cards you suggested based on visible specifications alone the 5770 is a little better than the 5670. The only thing is the price of the 5770 compared to the 5670. So that part depends on what you would rather sacrifice. Price or a slight bit of performance (on paper).
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: iDavid on July 04, 2011, 08:08:30 pm: I recommend a GTX570, a straight up perfect graphic card, for both gaming and other tasks! :)
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on July 05, 2011, 06:38:04 pm: Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H H55 Socket 1156 VGA DVI HDMI Out 8 CHannel Audio mATX Motherboard
(http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189292)

Intel i5 760 2.8GHz Socket 1156 8MB L3 Cache Retail Boxed Processor (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/229999)

Be Quiet Straight Power E8 600W PSU - 6x SATA 3x PCI-E (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/247724)
Coolermaster Elite 335 Case (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151368)
Corsair 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz/PC3-12800 XMS3 i5 Memory Kit CL9(9-9-9-24) 1.65V (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173122)
Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3 1TB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 32MB Cache (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804)
Xenta SATA 2.0 to right angle SATA 7-pin Cable (Red) 46cm / 18" (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151963)
Tuniq TX3 High Performance Thermal Grease 3gram syringe (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/169201)
LiteOn IHAS124-19 24x DVD + RW DL & RAM SATA Optical Drive - OEM Black with Nero Essentials (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176026)
Sapphire HD 5670 1GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics Card (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/259591)

This is what I added to my basket.

Will it all work together?
Correct PC Case?
Correct MoBo?
The paste stuff good?
Are any (extra) cables needed? (I don't think they include any cables - I've never bought stuff like this before... / built a whole computer).
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: Julio. on July 05, 2011, 06:57:23 pm: I did not use Thermal Paste on my PC at all.

The cooler which came with my Processor has an Adhesive on it that acts as a thermal compound I think
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: Shockk on July 05, 2011, 08:42:54 pm: Quote from: [NP]Monte Montague on July 05, 2011, 06:38:04 pm
Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H H55 Socket 1156 VGA DVI HDMI Out 8 CHannel Audio mATX Motherboard
(http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189292)

Intel i5 760 2.8GHz Socket 1156 8MB L3 Cache Retail Boxed Processor (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/229999)

Be Quiet Straight Power E8 600W PSU - 6x SATA 3x PCI-E (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/247724)
Coolermaster Elite 335 Case (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151368)
Corsair 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz/PC3-12800 XMS3 i5 Memory Kit CL9(9-9-9-24) 1.65V (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173122)
Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3 1TB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 32MB Cache (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804)
Xenta SATA 2.0 to right angle SATA 7-pin Cable (Red) 46cm / 18" (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151963)
Tuniq TX3 High Performance Thermal Grease 3gram syringe (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/169201)
LiteOn IHAS124-19 24x DVD + RW DL & RAM SATA Optical Drive - OEM Black with Nero Essentials (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176026)
Sapphire HD 5670 1GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics Card (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/259591)

This is what I added to my basket.

Will it all work together?
Correct PC Case?
Correct MoBo?
The paste stuff good?
Are any (extra) cables needed? (I don't think they include any cables - I've never bought stuff like this before... / built a whole computer).
Look towards the sandybridge socket i5. Costs more or less the same as what you have chosen but is quicker according to several online benchmarks.
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: 9r2e5i3k on July 05, 2011, 11:45:29 pm: Quote from: [NP]Monte Montague on July 05, 2011, 06:38:04 pm
Sapphire HD 5670 1GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics Card (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/259591)
Seems to be even weaker than what I'd choose for a budget PC [check my other topic in this board].

Use gpureview.com to compare cards.
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on July 06, 2011, 06:57:21 pm: Quote from: 9r2e5i3k on July 05, 2011, 11:45:29 pm
Seems to be even weaker than what I'd choose for a budget PC [check my other topic in this board].

Use gpureview.com to compare cards.
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/267364 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/267364)
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: Julio. on July 06, 2011, 10:00:35 pm: GT 520 is a VERY weak card, no point buying.
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: Petar on July 07, 2011, 01:00:22 am: Can't you simply sell your old PC and buy a new one ?
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: TheRock on July 07, 2011, 01:55:50 am: Quote from: joedaman633 on July 04, 2011, 10:38:10 am
If your PSU only just covers the power requirements of the computer, or is not quite powerful enough, it can damage the components in your computer.

More power = Better

That's bullshit, Big capacity PSU wattage = unwasted power = wasted money on bills..
A 600Watt would be good.
Title: Re: I r use hammer and make computer.
Post by: Julio. on July 07, 2011, 10:48:24 am: Quote from: TheRock on July 07, 2011, 01:55:50 am
That's bullshit, Big capacity PSU wattage = unwasted power = wasted money on bills..
A 600Watt would be good.

Excuse me, I was under the impression that a computer only takes what it needs...